<@adamwill:fedora.im>
16:00:35
!startmeeting Quality
<@meetbot:fedora.im>
16:00:36
Meeting started at 2024-02-19 16:00:35 UTC
<@meetbot:fedora.im>
16:00:36
The Meeting name is 'Quality'
<@adamwill:fedora.im>
16:00:41
!topic Roll Call
<@adamwill:fedora.im>
16:00:57
ahoyhoy
<@lruzicka:matrix.org>
16:01:06
hoya hoay
<@pboy:fedora.im>
16:01:14
!hi
<@zodbot:fedora.im>
16:01:16
Peter Boy (pboy)
<@coremodule:fedora.im>
16:03:37
!hello
<@zodbot:fedora.im>
16:03:38
Geoffrey Marr (coremodule)
<@linuxfriend01:fedora.im>
16:04:14
good day
<@adamwill:fedora.im>
16:10:01
how's everyone doing today?
<@sumantrom:fedora.im>
16:10:21
All good!!
<@adamwill:fedora.im>
16:11:58
awesome
<@adamwill:fedora.im>
16:12:00
alrighty
<@adamwill:fedora.im>
16:12:06
it's time for the What Didn't Adam Do Last Week show
<@adamwill:fedora.im>
16:12:10
!topic Previous meeting follow-up
<@adamwill:fedora.im>
16:13:14
!info "adamw to email marian about LVM bugs" - I did that, and it looks like Peter Boy got some further information about why things are the way they are and is working on a plan to deal with them (this is about https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2247872 as it affects Server on ARM)
<@adamwill:fedora.im>
16:13:19
does that sound right, peter?
<@pboy:fedora.im>
16:14:09
Well, until now the ARM SIG didn't answer my questions. and pwhalen seems to busy.
<@pboy:fedora.im>
16:14:28
coremodule do you more?
<@adamwill:fedora.im>
16:15:19
ah, sorry about that...what questions are still outstanding?
<@pboy:fedora.im>
16:16:10
e.g. if pwhalen will modify the arm-image-installer and test the advise from David
<@pboy:fedora.im>
16:16:35
And about the mocification of the image regarding the correct LVM configuration
<@pboy:fedora.im>
16:17:11
I tried to modify the script, but I didn't really catch the logic
<@adamwill:fedora.im>
16:19:17
okay, let's keep trying to get a response from them then
<@pboy:fedora.im>
16:19:48
I think next opportunity is the meeting tomorow
<@adamwill:fedora.im>
16:19:50
!info further to above: Peter Boy is trying to work on required changes but needs some information from the ARM team
<@adamwill:fedora.im>
16:22:26
!info "adamw to try and talk to mcsontos about https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2258764" - I think this was a clarification of the first action item, actually, so the result is the same: we've got a bit further along but still trying to work on it
<@adamwill:fedora.im>
16:23:13
!info "adamw and kparal to come up with a plan to start directing 'official' messages to discourse as well as mailing lists (and possibly having the mailing list versions encourage use of discourse?)" - well, I didn't write anything down in any SOPs or anything, but I have been sending meeting announcements to discourse as well as mailing lists for the last couple of weeks
<@kparal:matrix.org>
16:24:27
I found out that even though i track the quality-team tag, I don't see new topics in my Unread tab. I'll have to look into it.
<@adamwill:fedora.im>
16:26:00
huh, that's interesting indeed
<@adamwill:fedora.im>
16:26:12
maybe there's some higher level of following a tag, or something?
<@kparal:matrix.org>
16:27:52
higher level would be Watching, but I didn't want that. I'll have to experiment and report a bug, probably
<@adamwill:fedora.im>
16:30:24
sounds good
<@adamwill:fedora.im>
16:30:53
alrighty, moving on
<@adamwill:fedora.im>
16:32:15
!topic Fedora 40 status, including anaconda web UI test planning
<@adamwill:fedora.im>
16:32:21
so yeah, this has been a fun week...
<@adamwill:fedora.im>
16:33:59
!info the "web UI" new interface for anaconda (the installer) that is used on Workstation live images in Fedora 40 changed its backend for custom partitioning from blivet-gui (the same tool you can launch from the "gtk UI" current installer interface, as "Advanced Custom") to cockpit's storage backend (which has never been used in an installer context before). this landed in the anaconda package on 2023-02-07 and in a successful compose on 2023-02-10, so it is rather late
<@adamwill:fedora.im>
16:35:16
!info there are a few places this is being discussed, including https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2263964 and https://pagure.io/fesco/issue/3169 . We have a ticket for updating the criteria and test cases at https://pagure.io/fedora-qa/issue/763 and a ticket for atest day at https://pagure.io/fedora-qa/issue/764
<@adamwill:fedora.im>
16:35:28
!info the "web UI" new interface for anaconda (the installer) that is used on Workstation live images in Fedora 40 changed its backend for custom partitioning from blivet-gui (the same tool you can launch from the "gtk UI" current installer interface, as "Advanced Custom") to cockpit's storage backend (which has never been used in an installer context before). this landed in the anaconda package on 2024-02-07 and in a successful compose on 2024-02-10, so it is rather late
<@adamwill:fedora.im>
16:35:44
...aaand now we get to see how the matrix bot handles edited `!info` messages
<@adamwill:fedora.im>
16:36:01
i made it all the way to february before getting the year wrong, sigh
<@pboy:fedora.im>
16:36:33
We can guess the year :-)
<@adamwill:fedora.im>
16:37:10
so, we need a lot of testing of this new partitioning UI, is the bottom line
<@sumantrom:fedora.im>
16:37:25
do we have a date in mind for the test day?
<@adamwill:fedora.im>
16:37:29
note that this new UI *itself* had quite a significant change late last week, so if you tested it early last week, get new images and try again...
<@kparal:matrix.org>
16:37:41
I think a fesco ticket is more appropriate than our blocker discussion bugzilla ticket, for this purpose
<@adamwill:fedora.im>
16:37:45
Sumantro Mukherjee: ASAP now, I think, since https://github.com/rhinstaller/anaconda-webui/pull/72 is in
<@adamwill:fedora.im>
16:38:02
Kamil Páral: i kinda agree, but nobody is saying much on the fesco ticket, heh
<@adamwill:fedora.im>
16:38:10
i usually try to avoid talking too much on fesco tickets if fesco members aren't
<@adamwill:fedora.im>
16:38:20
it seems weird it's not even tagged for the meeting
<@sumantrom:fedora.im>
16:39:18
We can do it this Thusday .. do we want a whole week? Because Installer and alike are better off given a week of testing
<@sumantrom:fedora.im>
16:39:22
WDYT?
<@adamwill:fedora.im>
16:39:32
yeah, maybe a good idea
<@sumantrom:fedora.im>
16:39:51
But I need significant handholding with TC .. I dont understand cockpit much :)
<@sumantrom:fedora.im>
16:40:27
Can you guys at least tell me what existing test cases should work?
<@sumantrom:fedora.im>
16:40:42
maybe off-meeting topic:)
<@adamwill:fedora.im>
16:42:03
i'm working on the test cases
<@adamwill:fedora.im>
16:42:08
i will try and get them mostly done today or tomorrow
<@sumantrom:fedora.im>
16:42:29
I will finish the rest of the things :).. thanks adamw
<@adamwill:fedora.im>
16:42:31
aside from the ones that are explicitly 'partitioning' there'll be some others we need to pull in, like the 'install alongside windows' / 'install alongside macos' tests
<@sumantrom:fedora.im>
16:43:15
will we also be testing this on all archs of WS or just x86_64?
<@sumantrom:fedora.im>
16:43:34
also will the primary deliverable iso in mediawriter also change?
<@adamwill:fedora.im>
16:43:38
it *shouldn't* vary by arch, really
<@adamwill:fedora.im>
16:43:46
filesystems are just filesystems in the end
<@sumantrom:fedora.im>
16:43:48
in that case, we need to test that as well
<@adamwill:fedora.im>
16:44:00
so i wouldn't necessarily try and actually cover that in the 'matrix' layout
<@adamwill:fedora.im>
16:44:07
but sure it's nice if some folks can test on arm
<@adamwill:fedora.im>
16:45:38
aside from that whole mess, i think f40 is going pretty well....though we still need to sort out the arm image size thing, need to get nirik to patch koji or something...
<@kparal:matrix.org>
16:46:47
at the moment, cockpit storage seems broken in utm virt on Mac. lbrabec filed it today, I think.
<@kparal:matrix.org>
16:47:00
but only the osb build i think
<@kparal:matrix.org>
16:47:14
just note towards "shouldn't vary by arch" 🙂
<@kparal:matrix.org>
16:47:42
just a note towards "shouldn't vary by arch" 🙂
<@adamwill:fedora.im>
16:48:34
oh, fun :(
<@adamwill:fedora.im>
16:48:50
so yeah, please even ahead of the test week, start testing on this and filing whatever you find
<@adamwill:fedora.im>
16:49:37
oh, and when you file a bug, mark it as blocking bug 2231339 - that's the tracker for anaconda webui bugs
<@adamwill:fedora.im>
16:50:00
!info please test the new UI if you can, file any bugs you hit, and mark them as blocking bug 2231339
<@lruzicka:matrix.org>
16:50:40
Should the Cockpit bugs be handled by the Anaconda team and not the cockpit team?
<@adamwill:fedora.im>
16:51:05
i think it's a bit complicated
<@adamwill:fedora.im>
16:51:18
and sometimes it might wind up being udisks2
<@adamwill:fedora.im>
16:51:38
i think if it seems to be purely an issue within the cockpit UI itself, it's a 'cockpit' bug; if it's more to do with flow between anaconda and the cockpit UI, it's an anaconda bug
<@adamwill:fedora.im>
16:51:57
but it probably doesn't matter *too* much which you initially file against, especially if you mark it as blocking the tracker bug
<@lruzicka:matrix.org>
16:52:56
ok
<@adamwill:fedora.im>
16:54:34
any other notes on f40?
<@adamwill:fedora.im>
16:55:12
!topic Test Day / community event status
<@adamwill:fedora.im>
16:55:24
so, we now have an anaconda webui storage test day coming up, I guess :D
<@adamwill:fedora.im>
16:55:37
sorry lruzicka trying to get through this meeting before the blocker meeting...
<@sumantrom:fedora.im>
16:55:38
yep :)
<@adamwill:fedora.im>
16:56:04
!info the anaconda webui storage Test Week will be coming soon, tentative start date 2024-02-22 - follow https://pagure.io/fedora-qa/issue/764 for that
<@sumantrom:fedora.im>
16:56:13
The KDE Plasma 6 happened https://testdays.fedoraproject.org/events/174 .. good amount of test runs :)
<@sumantrom:fedora.im>
16:56:43
GNOME 46 Desktop and Core Apps happening now https://testdays.fedoraproject.org/events/175
<@adamwill:fedora.im>
16:56:59
!info The KDE Plasma 6 happened https://testdays.fedoraproject.org/events/174 .. good amount of test runs :)
<@adamwill:fedora.im>
16:57:06
!info GNOME 46 Desktop and Core Apps happening now https://testdays.fedoraproject.org/events/175
<@sumantrom:fedora.im>
16:57:12
GNOME 46 Apps will happen in 3 days from now https://testdays.fedoraproject.org/events/176
<@lruzicka:matrix.org>
16:57:15
No, problem.
<@lruzicka:matrix.org>
16:57:20
No comma.
<@sumantrom:fedora.im>
16:58:04
i18n will start March 5th https://testdays.fedoraproject.org/events/177
<@sumantrom:fedora.im>
16:58:46
we will have a Live Media Mordernization Test Day .. Niel to give the dates
<@sumantrom:fedora.im>
16:59:11
thats all from my end :)
<@adamwill:fedora.im>
16:59:33
!info i8n will start March 5th https://testdays.fedoraproject.org/events/177
<@adamwill:fedora.im>
16:59:35
thanks sumantro!
<@adamwill:fedora.im>
16:59:37
!topic Open floor
<@adamwill:fedora.im>
16:59:46
while we do open floor, blocker review will start over in #blocker-review:fedoraproject.org in a minute
<@kparal:matrix.org>
17:01:03
this is matrix, you can edit messages 😉
<@lruzicka:matrix.org>
17:01:38
No problem.
<@lruzicka:matrix.org>
17:01:55
Ok, did not know that :D
<@adamwill:fedora.im>
17:02:59
lruzicka: did you have something that I ran over earlier? :D
<@adamwill:fedora.im>
18:19:02
oh shoot, never closed this
<@adamwill:fedora.im>
18:19:04
thanks, everyone
<@adamwill:fedora.im>
18:19:05
!endmeeting