2024-02-19 16:00:35 <@adamwill:fedora.im> !startmeeting Quality
2024-02-19 16:00:36 <@meetbot:fedora.im> Meeting started at 2024-02-19 16:00:35 UTC
2024-02-19 16:00:36 <@meetbot:fedora.im> The Meeting name is 'Quality'
2024-02-19 16:00:41 <@adamwill:fedora.im> !topic Roll Call
2024-02-19 16:00:57 <@adamwill:fedora.im> ahoyhoy
2024-02-19 16:01:06 <@lruzicka:matrix.org> hoya hoay
2024-02-19 16:01:14 <@pboy:fedora.im> !hi
2024-02-19 16:01:16 <@zodbot:fedora.im> Peter Boy (pboy)
2024-02-19 16:03:37 <@coremodule:fedora.im> !hello
2024-02-19 16:03:38 <@zodbot:fedora.im> Geoffrey Marr (coremodule)
2024-02-19 16:04:14 <@linuxfriend01:fedora.im> good day
2024-02-19 16:10:01 <@adamwill:fedora.im> how's everyone doing today?
2024-02-19 16:10:21 <@sumantrom:fedora.im> All good!!
2024-02-19 16:11:58 <@adamwill:fedora.im> awesome
2024-02-19 16:12:00 <@adamwill:fedora.im> alrighty
2024-02-19 16:12:06 <@adamwill:fedora.im> it's time for the What Didn't Adam Do Last Week show
2024-02-19 16:12:10 <@adamwill:fedora.im> !topic Previous meeting follow-up
2024-02-19 16:13:14 <@adamwill:fedora.im> !info "adamw to email marian about LVM bugs" - I did that, and it looks like Peter Boy got some further information about why things are the way they are and is working on a plan to deal with them (this is about https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2247872 as it affects Server on ARM)
2024-02-19 16:13:19 <@adamwill:fedora.im> does that sound right, peter?
2024-02-19 16:14:09 <@pboy:fedora.im> Well, until now the ARM SIG didn't answer my questions. and pwhalen seems to busy.
2024-02-19 16:14:28 <@pboy:fedora.im> coremodule do you more?
2024-02-19 16:15:19 <@adamwill:fedora.im> ah, sorry about that...what questions are still outstanding?
2024-02-19 16:16:10 <@pboy:fedora.im> e.g. if pwhalen will modify the arm-image-installer and test the advise from David 
2024-02-19 16:16:35 <@pboy:fedora.im> And about the mocification of the image regarding the correct LVM configuration
2024-02-19 16:17:11 <@pboy:fedora.im> I tried to modify the script, but I didn't really catch the logic
2024-02-19 16:19:17 <@adamwill:fedora.im> okay, let's keep trying to get a response from them then
2024-02-19 16:19:48 <@pboy:fedora.im> I think next opportunity is the meeting tomorow
2024-02-19 16:19:50 <@adamwill:fedora.im> !info further to above: Peter Boy is trying to work on required changes but needs some information from the ARM team
2024-02-19 16:22:26 <@adamwill:fedora.im> !info "adamw to try and talk to mcsontos about https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2258764" - I think this was a clarification of the first action item, actually, so the result is the same: we've got a bit further along but still trying to work on it
2024-02-19 16:23:13 <@adamwill:fedora.im> !info "adamw and kparal to come up with a plan to start directing 'official' messages to discourse as well as mailing lists (and possibly having the mailing list versions encourage use of discourse?)" - well, I didn't write anything down in any SOPs or anything, but I have been sending meeting announcements to discourse as well as mailing lists for the last couple of weeks
2024-02-19 16:24:27 <@kparal:matrix.org> I found out that even though i track the quality-team tag, I don't see new topics in my Unread tab. I'll have to look into it.
2024-02-19 16:26:00 <@adamwill:fedora.im> huh, that's interesting indeed
2024-02-19 16:26:12 <@adamwill:fedora.im> maybe there's some higher level of following a tag, or something?
2024-02-19 16:27:52 <@kparal:matrix.org> higher level would be Watching, but I didn't want that. I'll have to experiment and report a bug, probably
2024-02-19 16:30:24 <@adamwill:fedora.im> sounds good
2024-02-19 16:30:53 <@adamwill:fedora.im> alrighty, moving on
2024-02-19 16:32:15 <@adamwill:fedora.im> !topic Fedora 40 status, including anaconda web UI test planning
2024-02-19 16:32:21 <@adamwill:fedora.im> so yeah, this has been a fun week...
2024-02-19 16:33:59 <@adamwill:fedora.im> !info the "web UI" new interface for anaconda (the installer) that is used on Workstation live images in Fedora 40 changed its backend for custom partitioning from blivet-gui (the same tool you can launch from the "gtk UI" current installer interface, as "Advanced Custom") to cockpit's storage backend (which has never been used in an installer context before). this landed in the anaconda package on 2023-02-07 and in a successful compose on 2023-02-10, so it is rather late
2024-02-19 16:35:16 <@adamwill:fedora.im> !info there are a few places this is being discussed, including https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2263964 and https://pagure.io/fesco/issue/3169 . We have a ticket for updating the criteria and test cases at https://pagure.io/fedora-qa/issue/763 and a ticket for atest day at https://pagure.io/fedora-qa/issue/764
2024-02-19 16:35:28 <@adamwill:fedora.im> !info the "web UI" new interface for anaconda (the installer) that is used on Workstation live images in Fedora 40 changed its backend for custom partitioning from blivet-gui (the same tool you can launch from the "gtk UI" current installer interface, as "Advanced Custom") to cockpit's storage backend (which has never been used in an installer context before). this landed in the anaconda package on 2024-02-07 and in a successful compose on 2024-02-10, so it is rather late
2024-02-19 16:35:44 <@adamwill:fedora.im> ...aaand now we get to see how the matrix bot handles edited `!info` messages
2024-02-19 16:36:01 <@adamwill:fedora.im> i made it all the way to february before getting the year wrong, sigh
2024-02-19 16:36:33 <@pboy:fedora.im> We can guess the year  :-)
2024-02-19 16:37:10 <@adamwill:fedora.im> so, we need a lot of testing of this new partitioning UI, is the bottom line
2024-02-19 16:37:25 <@sumantrom:fedora.im> do we have a date in mind for the test day?
2024-02-19 16:37:29 <@adamwill:fedora.im> note that this new UI *itself* had quite a significant change late last week, so if you tested it early last week, get new images and try again...
2024-02-19 16:37:41 <@kparal:matrix.org> I think a fesco ticket is more appropriate than our blocker discussion bugzilla ticket, for this purpose
2024-02-19 16:37:45 <@adamwill:fedora.im> Sumantro Mukherjee: ASAP now, I think, since https://github.com/rhinstaller/anaconda-webui/pull/72 is in
2024-02-19 16:38:02 <@adamwill:fedora.im> Kamil Páral: i kinda agree, but nobody is saying much on the fesco ticket, heh
2024-02-19 16:38:10 <@adamwill:fedora.im> i usually try to avoid talking too much on fesco tickets if fesco members aren't
2024-02-19 16:38:20 <@adamwill:fedora.im> it seems weird it's not even tagged for the meeting
2024-02-19 16:39:18 <@sumantrom:fedora.im> We can do it this Thusday .. do we want a whole week? Because Installer and alike are better off given a week of testing 
2024-02-19 16:39:22 <@sumantrom:fedora.im> WDYT?
2024-02-19 16:39:32 <@adamwill:fedora.im> yeah, maybe a good idea
2024-02-19 16:39:51 <@sumantrom:fedora.im> But I need significant handholding with TC .. I dont understand cockpit much :)
2024-02-19 16:40:27 <@sumantrom:fedora.im> Can you guys at least tell me what existing test cases should work?
2024-02-19 16:40:42 <@sumantrom:fedora.im> maybe off-meeting topic:) 
2024-02-19 16:42:03 <@adamwill:fedora.im> i'm working on the test cases
2024-02-19 16:42:08 <@adamwill:fedora.im> i will try and get them mostly done today or tomorrow
2024-02-19 16:42:29 <@sumantrom:fedora.im> I will finish the rest of the things :).. thanks adamw 
2024-02-19 16:42:31 <@adamwill:fedora.im> aside from the ones that are explicitly 'partitioning' there'll be some others we need to pull in, like the 'install alongside windows' / 'install alongside macos' tests
2024-02-19 16:43:15 <@sumantrom:fedora.im> will we also be testing this on all archs of WS or just x86_64?
2024-02-19 16:43:34 <@sumantrom:fedora.im> also will the primary deliverable iso in mediawriter also change?
2024-02-19 16:43:38 <@adamwill:fedora.im> it *shouldn't* vary by arch, really
2024-02-19 16:43:46 <@adamwill:fedora.im> filesystems are just filesystems in the end
2024-02-19 16:43:48 <@sumantrom:fedora.im> in that case, we need to test that as well
2024-02-19 16:44:00 <@adamwill:fedora.im> so i wouldn't necessarily try and actually cover that in the 'matrix' layout
2024-02-19 16:44:07 <@adamwill:fedora.im> but sure it's nice if some folks can test on arm
2024-02-19 16:45:38 <@adamwill:fedora.im> aside from that whole mess, i think f40 is going pretty well....though we still need to sort out the arm image size thing, need to get nirik to patch koji or something...
2024-02-19 16:46:47 <@kparal:matrix.org> at the moment, cockpit storage seems broken in utm virt on Mac. lbrabec filed it today, I think.
2024-02-19 16:47:00 <@kparal:matrix.org> but only the osb build i think
2024-02-19 16:47:14 <@kparal:matrix.org> just note towards "shouldn't vary by arch" 🙂
2024-02-19 16:47:42 <@kparal:matrix.org> just a note towards "shouldn't vary by arch" 🙂
2024-02-19 16:48:34 <@adamwill:fedora.im> oh, fun :(
2024-02-19 16:48:50 <@adamwill:fedora.im> so yeah, please even ahead of the test week, start testing on this and filing whatever you find
2024-02-19 16:49:37 <@adamwill:fedora.im> oh, and when you file a bug, mark it as blocking bug 2231339 - that's the tracker for anaconda webui bugs
2024-02-19 16:50:00 <@adamwill:fedora.im> !info please test the new UI if you can, file any bugs you hit, and mark them as blocking bug 2231339
2024-02-19 16:50:40 <@lruzicka:matrix.org> Should the Cockpit bugs be handled by the Anaconda team and not the cockpit team?
2024-02-19 16:51:05 <@adamwill:fedora.im> i think it's a bit complicated
2024-02-19 16:51:18 <@adamwill:fedora.im> and sometimes it might wind up being udisks2
2024-02-19 16:51:38 <@adamwill:fedora.im> i think if it seems to be purely an issue within the cockpit UI itself, it's a 'cockpit' bug; if it's more to do with flow between anaconda and the cockpit UI, it's an anaconda bug
2024-02-19 16:51:57 <@adamwill:fedora.im> but it probably doesn't matter *too* much which you initially file against, especially if you mark it as blocking the tracker bug
2024-02-19 16:52:56 <@lruzicka:matrix.org> ok
2024-02-19 16:54:34 <@adamwill:fedora.im> any other notes on f40?
2024-02-19 16:55:12 <@adamwill:fedora.im> !topic Test Day / community event status
2024-02-19 16:55:24 <@adamwill:fedora.im> so, we now have an anaconda webui storage test day coming up, I guess :D
2024-02-19 16:55:37 <@adamwill:fedora.im> sorry lruzicka trying to get through this meeting before the blocker meeting...
2024-02-19 16:55:38 <@sumantrom:fedora.im> yep :)
2024-02-19 16:56:04 <@adamwill:fedora.im> !info the anaconda webui storage Test Week will be coming soon, tentative start date 2024-02-22 - follow https://pagure.io/fedora-qa/issue/764 for that
2024-02-19 16:56:13 <@sumantrom:fedora.im> The KDE Plasma 6 happened https://testdays.fedoraproject.org/events/174 .. good amount of test runs :) 
2024-02-19 16:56:43 <@sumantrom:fedora.im> GNOME 46 Desktop and Core Apps happening now https://testdays.fedoraproject.org/events/175
2024-02-19 16:56:59 <@adamwill:fedora.im> !info The KDE Plasma 6 happened https://testdays.fedoraproject.org/events/174 .. good amount of test runs :)
2024-02-19 16:57:06 <@adamwill:fedora.im> !info GNOME 46 Desktop and Core Apps happening now https://testdays.fedoraproject.org/events/175
2024-02-19 16:57:12 <@sumantrom:fedora.im> GNOME 46 Apps will happen in 3 days from now https://testdays.fedoraproject.org/events/176
2024-02-19 16:57:15 <@lruzicka:matrix.org> No, problem.
2024-02-19 16:57:20 <@lruzicka:matrix.org> No comma.
2024-02-19 16:58:04 <@sumantrom:fedora.im> i18n will start March 5th https://testdays.fedoraproject.org/events/177
2024-02-19 16:58:46 <@sumantrom:fedora.im> we will have a Live Media Mordernization Test Day .. Niel to give the dates
2024-02-19 16:59:11 <@sumantrom:fedora.im> thats all from my end :)
2024-02-19 16:59:33 <@adamwill:fedora.im> !info i8n will start March 5th https://testdays.fedoraproject.org/events/177
2024-02-19 16:59:35 <@adamwill:fedora.im> thanks sumantro!
2024-02-19 16:59:37 <@adamwill:fedora.im> !topic Open floor
2024-02-19 16:59:46 <@adamwill:fedora.im> while we do open floor, blocker review will start over in #blocker-review:fedoraproject.org in a minute
2024-02-19 17:01:03 <@kparal:matrix.org> this is matrix, you can edit messages 😉
2024-02-19 17:01:38 <@lruzicka:matrix.org> No problem.
2024-02-19 17:01:55 <@lruzicka:matrix.org> Ok, did not know that :D
2024-02-19 17:02:59 <@adamwill:fedora.im> lruzicka: did you have something that I ran over earlier? :D
2024-02-19 18:19:02 <@adamwill:fedora.im> oh shoot, never closed this
2024-02-19 18:19:04 <@adamwill:fedora.im> thanks, everyone
2024-02-19 18:19:05 <@adamwill:fedora.im> !endmeeting