2024-03-04 16:00:47 <@adamwill:fedora.im> !startmeeting Quality
2024-03-04 16:00:48 <@meetbot:fedora.im> Meeting started at 2024-03-04 16:00:47 UTC
2024-03-04 16:00:48 <@meetbot:fedora.im> The Meeting name is 'Quality'
2024-03-04 16:00:51 <@adamwill:fedora.im> !topic Roll Call
2024-03-04 16:00:56 <@adamwill:fedora.im> ahoyhoy, how's everyone doing today
2024-03-04 16:01:53 <@nielsenb:fedora.im> Made it! Was finally allowed to log in.
2024-03-04 16:02:08 <@nhanlon:beeper.com> o/ happy monday folks
2024-03-04 16:02:29 <@pboy:fedora.im> !hi
2024-03-04 16:02:30 <@zodbot:fedora.im> Peter Boy (pboy)
2024-03-04 16:02:38 <@tflink:fedora.im> !hi
2024-03-04 16:02:38 <@adamwill:fedora.im> yay! good job Brandon Nielsen 
2024-03-04 16:02:39 <@zodbot:fedora.im> Tim Flink (tflink)
2024-03-04 16:03:30 <@nielsenb:fedora.im> !hi
2024-03-04 16:03:31 <@zodbot:fedora.im> Brandon Nielsen (nielsenb)
2024-03-04 16:05:37 <@adamwill:fedora.im> hi hi
2024-03-04 16:07:40 <@adamwill:fedora.im> alrighty, let's get rolling
2024-03-04 16:07:44 <@adamwill:fedora.im> !topic Previous meeting follow-up
2024-03-04 16:08:09 <@adamwill:fedora.im> !info there are no action items from the previous meeting
2024-03-04 16:08:44 <@adamwill:fedora.im> on the ongoing topic of 'tool migration' - i'm now posting all meeting announcements to discourse as well as the mailing list, and posting minutes as replies to the announcements. i'll try and update the sops to document this later
2024-03-04 16:08:56 <@adamwill:fedora.im> did anyone see the announcements on discourse? do they look good?
2024-03-04 16:09:34 <@nielsenb:fedora.im> I have seen them, they seemed fine, though I didn't click the links or anything to verify functionality.
2024-03-04 16:10:14 <@nielsenb:fedora.im> Discourse might be growing on me a little
2024-03-04 16:10:53 <@adamwill:fedora.im> Brandon Nielsen: don't worry, every single link points to Never Gonna Give You Up
2024-03-04 16:11:29 <@nielsenb:fedora.im> Working perfectly then
2024-03-04 16:13:59 <@adamwill:fedora.im> alrighty, moving on
2024-03-04 16:16:06 <@adamwill:fedora.im> !topic Fedora 40 status
2024-03-04 16:16:10 <@adamwill:fedora.im> *there's* my agenda. sheesh
2024-03-04 16:16:15 <@adamwill:fedora.im> alrighty, so, the big news here is:
2024-03-04 16:16:58 <@adamwill:fedora.im> !info the anaconda webUI Change got deferred again, to Fedora 41 - https://pagure.io/fesco/issue/3169#comment-896412
2024-03-04 16:17:55 <@adamwill:fedora.im> !info I have reverted/deferred all the wiki changes related to this, and the official image is back to behaving as it did in f39 and earlier (the osbuild image is still webui ATM, that should be fixed soon)
2024-03-04 16:19:00 <@nielsenb:fedora.im> I'm not sure I understand what the "mass testing early in the F41 cycle" will do? Have the webui people agreed to change the immediate apply behavior?
2024-03-04 16:19:39 <@adamwill:fedora.im> that's still being worked out. that was a sop to the concern that deferring it means nobody is going to test anything
2024-03-04 16:19:51 <@nielsenb:fedora.im> Fair enough
2024-03-04 16:24:01 <@adamwill:fedora.im> !info other than that, we're mostly looking solid for Fedora 40, though there's some concerning stuff on the blocker list that's relatively out of our hands - missing artwork, still no new signed shim build (unless one showed up this morning)
2024-03-04 16:24:05 <@adamwill:fedora.im> anyone have any other notes on f40?
2024-03-04 16:24:42 <@nielsenb:fedora.im> VRR got waved through over in Gnome land, get excited!
2024-03-04 16:25:00 <@pboy:fedora.im> I have a unimportant question
2024-03-04 16:26:21 <@pboy:fedora.im> Now or in open floor?
2024-03-04 16:27:23 <@adamwill:fedora.im> go ahead
2024-03-04 16:27:37 <@adamwill:fedora.im> Brandon Nielsen: not sure if that will make f40 since we're in beta freeze, though?
2024-03-04 16:27:47 <@pboy:fedora.im> Wonder how we deal with a kind of "blemish". For example, in the server installation, the grub image is not centered but offset to the right. When booting, a series of error messages appear that something was not found. Nothing dramatic, everything works. But it does not make a mature and solid impression.
2024-03-04 16:29:02 <@adamwill:fedora.im> well, those are two separate bugs, i guess. you just file them as bugs. if they aren't getting traction, you can try advocating for some kind of 'clean up' operation, we have done those kinds of thing in the past, but it requires someone to push...
2024-03-04 16:29:21 <@adamwill:fedora.im> i know the messages you mean, but there's always something more important to do than hiding those. i think they're probably coming from anaconda, dracut or anaconda-dracut
2024-03-04 16:30:03 <@adamwill:fedora.im> filing bugs is a regular ol' task, getting people to buy into a Clean Up Superficial Issues drive is a social problem. :)
2024-03-04 16:30:07 <@pboy:fedora.im> I supposed a "bug" is to strong for that. I will do so.
2024-03-04 16:30:58 <@adamwill:fedora.im> nope, bug process is the right process here, i would say.
2024-03-04 16:31:07 <@pboy:fedora.im> OK.
2024-03-04 16:31:48 <@adamwill:fedora.im> !topic Test Day / community event status
2024-03-04 16:31:53 <@adamwill:fedora.im> Sumantro Mukherjee: are you around?
2024-03-04 16:34:12 <@adamwill:fedora.im> guess not...
2024-03-04 16:37:00 <@adamwill:fedora.im> !info i18n Test Day is coming up today or tomorrow (2024-03-05): https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Test_Day:2024-03-05_I18N_Test_Day , https://testdays.fedoraproject.org/events/177
2024-03-04 16:37:05 <@adamwill:fedora.im> I see some people are already filing results - yay
2024-03-04 16:37:53 <@adamwill:fedora.im> I think that's all the upcoming events ATM
2024-03-04 16:37:56 <@adamwill:fedora.im> !topic Open floor
2024-03-04 16:37:58 <@adamwill:fedora.im> any other business, folks?
2024-03-04 16:38:46 <@kparal:matrix.org> nothing here
2024-03-04 16:38:59 <@nielsenb:fedora.im> Nothing from me.
2024-03-04 16:43:41 <@adamwill:fedora.im> alrighty then
2024-03-04 16:43:55 <@adamwill:fedora.im> if nobody has anything, we can adjourn till the blocker review meeting over in #blocker-review:fedoraproject.org in 15 minutes
2024-03-04 16:46:25 <@adamwill:fedora.im> thanks for coming, folks
2024-03-04 16:46:27 <@adamwill:fedora.im> !endmeeting