#meeting:fedoraproject.org log

<@adamwill:fedora.im>

15:00:41

!startmeeting Quality

<@meetbot:fedora.im>

15:00:42

Meeting started at 2024-03-18 15:00:41 UTC

<@meetbot:fedora.im>

15:00:42

The Meeting name is 'Quality'

<@adamwill:fedora.im>

15:00:46

!topic Roll Call

<@adamwill:fedora.im>

15:00:54

ahoyhoy folks, who's around for a quality meeting?

<@nielsenb:fedora.im>

15:01:03

.hi

<@nielsenb:fedora.im>

15:01:13

.hello

<@nielsenb:fedora.im>

15:01:23

Or not

<@nhanlon:beeper.com>

15:01:41

!hi

<@zodbot:fedora.im>

15:01:43

Neil Hanlon (neil) - he / him / his

<@nielsenb:fedora.im>

15:01:57

!hi

<@zodbot:fedora.im>

15:01:58

Brandon Nielsen (nielsenb)

<@nielsenb:fedora.im>

15:02:02

I see now

<@nhanlon:beeper.com>

15:04:31

how's everyone doing today

<@tflink:fedora.im>

15:05:01

!hi

<@zodbot:fedora.im>

15:05:02

Tim Flink (tflink)

<@adamwill:fedora.im>

15:05:33

morning morning everyone

<@adamwill:fedora.im>

15:06:29

let's get rolling...

<@adamwill:fedora.im>

15:06:33

!topic Previous meeting follow-up

<@adamwill:fedora.im>

15:06:50

!info no action items from last meeting

<@adamwill:fedora.im>

15:07:37

!topic Fedora 40 status (including Beta testing plans)

<@adamwill:fedora.im>

15:07:45

so...this is getting a bit complicated again...

<@adamwill:fedora.im>

15:08:14

!info Beta-1.7 is, so far, looking like a viable candidate, much better than anything we had last week

<@adamwill:fedora.im>

15:08:25

but i'm tracking quite a lot of stuff:

<@adamwill:fedora.im>

15:08:45

!info dustymabe had worrying results with the new shim in CoreOS testing - https://github.com/coreos/fedora-coreos-tracker/issues/1694

<@adamwill:fedora.im>

15:09:56

!info there are some significant known differences in the contents of at least one image now built by kiwi but formerly built by imagefactory - the container base image built with kiwi is missing gzip and sudo - and we haven't yet checked the others out fully (thanks Jeremy Linton for checking container base)

<@adamwill:fedora.im>

15:10:22

!info it seems sdubby may be getting installed instead of grubby in far too many cases - https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2269992

<@adamwill:fedora.im>

15:11:15

!info there's an update for GNOME 46 final builds of the core components (gnome-shell etc.) that we *may* want to pull in as an FE

<@adamwill:fedora.im>

15:11:42

!info travier wants to revert bootupd again - https://pagure.io/workstation-ostree-config/pull-request/498

<@adamwill:fedora.im>

15:12:10

am I forgetting something? i think i'm forgetting something. there's Kamil Páral 's proposed blocker, too

<@adamwill:fedora.im>

15:12:17

so, it's looking like a fun morning...

<@kparal:matrix.org>

15:12:37

huh, which one?

<@kparal:matrix.org>

15:12:56

was I moonworking again?

<@adamwill:fedora.im>

15:13:12

https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2270030 - oh, that's lruzicka , i thought it was you for some reason

<@kparal:matrix.org>

15:13:28

s/moonwork/sleepwork/

<@adamwill:fedora.im>

15:13:37

i like 'moonwork'

<@kparal:matrix.org>

15:13:58

I'll use czenglish more often, then 🙂

<@tflink:fedora.im>

15:14:38

Does that imply that you make progress in the opposite direction that it looks like, similar to moonwalking?

<@geraldosimiao:matrix.org>

15:15:06

!hi

<@kparal:matrix.org>

15:15:07

no, I just confuse the terms 😄

<@zodbot:fedora.im>

15:15:08

Geraldo S. Simião Kutz (geraldosimiao) - he / him / his

<@geraldosimiao:matrix.org>

15:15:27

was testing basic graphics mode now, didnt realize the hour

<@geraldosimiao:matrix.org>

15:15:34

sorry

<@nhanlon:beeper.com>

15:15:44

that's probably not untrue for working past when one should go to sleep, w.r.t. making negative progress

<@kparal:matrix.org>

15:15:53

geraldosimiao: it works fine, if you select the right option 🙂 I just tested

<@geraldosimiao:matrix.org>

15:16:15

I select all options on basic graphics mode on bios

<@geraldosimiao:matrix.org>

15:16:20

none works here

<@kparal:matrix.org>

15:16:48

let's move this to #quality:fedoraproject.org and debug there

<@geraldosimiao:matrix.org>

15:16:50

I tried nomodeset too

<@adamwill:fedora.im>

15:18:12

oh, yes, that's what i'm missing

<@adamwill:fedora.im>

15:18:56

!info there is also a report of basic graphics mode not working - https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2270128

<@adamwill:fedora.im>

15:19:13

if other folks can try that out on their hardware, with all the combinations (UEFI and BIOS, KDE and GNOME) that'd be super helpful. i will do it on my test box after the meeting

<@adamwill:fedora.im>

15:21:03

any other notes on f40?

<@nielsenb:fedora.im>

15:23:33

How are we feeling about our ARMs?

<@adamwill:fedora.im>

15:24:04

the pi 400 blocker is still outstanding, unfortunately

<@adamwill:fedora.im>

15:24:09

that's another thing that should be on the list

<@adamwill:fedora.im>

15:24:31

!info the pi 400 blocker is still outstanding - https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2267968 . We did the candidate compose on the theory folks may want to waive it, but we should still try and get it fixed

<@adamwill:fedora.im>

15:25:56

did anyone test other ARMs yet? especially with the minimal disk image?

<@adamwill:fedora.im>

15:26:02

note to self: try it on jetson

<@nielsenb:fedora.im>

15:26:23

My Pi 4b booted minimal successfully

<@nielsenb:fedora.im>

15:26:32

But I haven't really had any time to run it through it's paces

<@nhanlon:beeper.com>

15:29:03

i've not tried it on mine yet, but will test a handful of arm sbcs this afternoon.

<@nielsenb:fedora.im>

15:33:34

Basic graphics mode boots with Workstation 1.7 on my ancient BIOS laptop

<@adamwill:fedora.im>

15:34:46

thanks for that testing brandon!

<@kparal:matrix.org>

15:34:57

I believe geraldosimiao just considered the first item to be a title, when it is actually a selectable item

<@nielsenb:fedora.im>

15:35:22

I'll try with KDE here in a minute

<@geraldosimiao:matrix.org>

15:36:11

yeah, that was my error

<@geraldosimiao:matrix.org>

15:36:22

yeah, that was my fault

<@nielsenb:fedora.im>

15:37:39

So we don't actually have basic graphics concerns?

<@nielsenb:fedora.im>

15:37:54

Other than the usual existential dread

<@adamwill:fedora.im>

15:38:09

seems like it. but it's always a good thing to test

<@kparal:matrix.org>

15:38:09

Correct

<@nielsenb:fedora.im>

15:38:28

Okie

<@adamwill:fedora.im>

15:39:38

alright, moving on, then

<@adamwill:fedora.im>

15:39:49

!topic Test Day / community event status

<@adamwill:fedora.im>

15:39:54

Sumantro Mukherjee: are you around?

<@adamwill:fedora.im>

15:41:04

well, he was around an hour ago...:D

<@adamwill:fedora.im>

15:41:21

!info Fedora IoT test week is this week: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Test_Day:2024-03-18_Fedora_40_IoT_Edition#Prerequisites_for_Test_Day and https://testdays.fedoraproject.org/events/178

<@adamwill:fedora.im>

15:42:43

!info Podman Desktop test day with be 2024-03-20: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Test_Day:2024-03-20_Podman_Desktop

<@adamwill:fedora.im>

15:42:56

!info Podman 5 test day will be 2024-03-21: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Test_Day:2024-03-21_Podman_5

<@adamwill:fedora.im>

15:43:13

!info Toolbx test day will be 2024-03-27: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Test_Day:2024-03-27_Toolbx

<@adamwill:fedora.im>

15:43:14

welcome to containers week, I guess :D

<@adamwill:fedora.im>

15:43:32

anything else to note on this topic?

<@geraldosimiao:matrix.org>

15:45:09

not from me

<@nhanlon:beeper.com>

15:45:42

nope

<@adamwill:fedora.im>

15:47:18

alllrighty

<@adamwill:fedora.im>

15:47:20

!topic Open floor

<@adamwill:fedora.im>

15:47:28

any other business? a reminder that blocker review meeting is at the top of the hour

<@adamwill:fedora.im>

15:47:39

if you have blockers/FEs to propose, get them in before then, it helps

<@adamwill:fedora.im>

15:50:23

otherwise, we can wrap up

<@adamwill:fedora.im>

15:52:05

okay, thanks for coming, everyone!

<@adamwill:fedora.im>

15:52:18

go forth and continue to test F40...I *suspect* we'll wind up with a new compose one way or another, hopefully later today

<@adamwill:fedora.im>

15:53:46

!endmeeting