2024-03-18 15:00:41 <@adamwill:fedora.im> !startmeeting Quality
2024-03-18 15:00:42 <@meetbot:fedora.im> Meeting started at 2024-03-18 15:00:41 UTC
2024-03-18 15:00:42 <@meetbot:fedora.im> The Meeting name is 'Quality'
2024-03-18 15:00:46 <@adamwill:fedora.im> !topic Roll Call
2024-03-18 15:00:54 <@adamwill:fedora.im> ahoyhoy folks, who's around for a quality meeting?
2024-03-18 15:01:03 <@nielsenb:fedora.im> .hi
2024-03-18 15:01:13 <@nielsenb:fedora.im> .hello
2024-03-18 15:01:23 <@nielsenb:fedora.im> Or not
2024-03-18 15:01:41 <@nhanlon:beeper.com> !hi 
2024-03-18 15:01:43 <@zodbot:fedora.im> Neil Hanlon (neil) - he / him / his
2024-03-18 15:01:57 <@nielsenb:fedora.im> !hi
2024-03-18 15:01:58 <@zodbot:fedora.im> Brandon Nielsen (nielsenb)
2024-03-18 15:02:02 <@nielsenb:fedora.im> I see now
2024-03-18 15:04:31 <@nhanlon:beeper.com> how's everyone doing today
2024-03-18 15:05:01 <@tflink:fedora.im> !hi
2024-03-18 15:05:02 <@zodbot:fedora.im> Tim Flink (tflink)
2024-03-18 15:05:33 <@adamwill:fedora.im> morning morning everyone
2024-03-18 15:06:29 <@adamwill:fedora.im> let's get rolling...
2024-03-18 15:06:33 <@adamwill:fedora.im> !topic Previous meeting follow-up
2024-03-18 15:06:50 <@adamwill:fedora.im> !info no action items from last meeting
2024-03-18 15:07:37 <@adamwill:fedora.im> !topic Fedora 40 status (including Beta testing plans)
2024-03-18 15:07:45 <@adamwill:fedora.im> so...this is getting a bit complicated again...
2024-03-18 15:08:14 <@adamwill:fedora.im> !info Beta-1.7 is, so far, looking like a viable candidate, much better than anything we had last week
2024-03-18 15:08:25 <@adamwill:fedora.im> but i'm tracking quite a lot of stuff:
2024-03-18 15:08:45 <@adamwill:fedora.im> !info dustymabe had worrying results with the new shim in CoreOS testing - https://github.com/coreos/fedora-coreos-tracker/issues/1694
2024-03-18 15:09:56 <@adamwill:fedora.im> !info there are some significant known differences in the contents of at least one image now built by kiwi but formerly built by imagefactory - the container base image built with kiwi is missing gzip and sudo - and we haven't yet checked the others out fully (thanks Jeremy Linton for checking container base)
2024-03-18 15:10:22 <@adamwill:fedora.im> !info it seems sdubby may be getting installed instead of grubby in far too many cases - https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2269992
2024-03-18 15:11:15 <@adamwill:fedora.im> !info there's an update for GNOME 46 final builds of the core components (gnome-shell etc.) that we *may* want to pull in as an FE
2024-03-18 15:11:42 <@adamwill:fedora.im> !info travier wants to revert bootupd again - https://pagure.io/workstation-ostree-config/pull-request/498
2024-03-18 15:12:10 <@adamwill:fedora.im> am I forgetting something? i think i'm forgetting something. there's Kamil Páral 's proposed blocker, too
2024-03-18 15:12:17 <@adamwill:fedora.im> so, it's looking like a fun morning...
2024-03-18 15:12:37 <@kparal:matrix.org> huh, which one?
2024-03-18 15:12:56 <@kparal:matrix.org> was I moonworking again?
2024-03-18 15:13:12 <@adamwill:fedora.im> https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2270030 - oh, that's lruzicka , i thought it was you for some reason
2024-03-18 15:13:28 <@kparal:matrix.org> s/moonwork/sleepwork/
2024-03-18 15:13:37 <@adamwill:fedora.im> i like 'moonwork'
2024-03-18 15:13:58 <@kparal:matrix.org> I'll use czenglish more often, then 🙂
2024-03-18 15:14:38 <@tflink:fedora.im> Does that imply that you make progress in the opposite direction that it looks like, similar to moonwalking?
2024-03-18 15:15:06 <@geraldosimiao:matrix.org> !hi
2024-03-18 15:15:07 <@kparal:matrix.org> no, I just confuse the terms 😄 
2024-03-18 15:15:08 <@zodbot:fedora.im> Geraldo S. Simião Kutz (geraldosimiao) - he / him / his
2024-03-18 15:15:27 <@geraldosimiao:matrix.org> was testing basic graphics mode now, didnt realize the hour
2024-03-18 15:15:34 <@geraldosimiao:matrix.org> sorry
2024-03-18 15:15:44 <@nhanlon:beeper.com> that's probably not untrue for working past when one should go to sleep, w.r.t. making negative progress
2024-03-18 15:15:53 <@kparal:matrix.org> geraldosimiao: it works fine, if you select the right option 🙂 I just tested
2024-03-18 15:16:15 <@geraldosimiao:matrix.org> I select all options on basic graphics mode on bios
2024-03-18 15:16:20 <@geraldosimiao:matrix.org> none works here
2024-03-18 15:16:48 <@kparal:matrix.org> let's move this to #quality:fedoraproject.org and debug there
2024-03-18 15:16:50 <@geraldosimiao:matrix.org> I tried nomodeset too
2024-03-18 15:18:12 <@adamwill:fedora.im> oh, yes, that's what i'm missing
2024-03-18 15:18:56 <@adamwill:fedora.im> !info there is also a report of basic graphics mode not working - https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2270128
2024-03-18 15:19:13 <@adamwill:fedora.im> if other folks can try that out on their hardware, with all the combinations (UEFI and BIOS, KDE and GNOME) that'd be super helpful. i will do it on my test box after the meeting
2024-03-18 15:21:03 <@adamwill:fedora.im> any other notes on f40?
2024-03-18 15:23:33 <@nielsenb:fedora.im> How are we feeling about our ARMs?
2024-03-18 15:24:04 <@adamwill:fedora.im> the pi 400 blocker is still outstanding, unfortunately
2024-03-18 15:24:09 <@adamwill:fedora.im> that's another thing that should be on the list
2024-03-18 15:24:31 <@adamwill:fedora.im> !info the pi 400 blocker is still outstanding - https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2267968 . We did the candidate compose on the theory folks may want to waive it, but we should still try and get it fixed
2024-03-18 15:25:56 <@adamwill:fedora.im> did anyone test other ARMs yet? especially with the minimal disk image?
2024-03-18 15:26:02 <@adamwill:fedora.im> note to self: try it on jetson
2024-03-18 15:26:23 <@nielsenb:fedora.im> My Pi 4b booted minimal successfully
2024-03-18 15:26:32 <@nielsenb:fedora.im> But I haven't really had any time to run it through it's paces
2024-03-18 15:29:03 <@nhanlon:beeper.com> i've not tried it on mine yet, but will test a handful of arm sbcs this afternoon.
2024-03-18 15:33:34 <@nielsenb:fedora.im> Basic graphics mode boots with Workstation 1.7 on my ancient BIOS laptop
2024-03-18 15:34:46 <@adamwill:fedora.im> thanks for that testing brandon!
2024-03-18 15:34:57 <@kparal:matrix.org> I believe geraldosimiao just considered the first item to be a title, when it is actually a selectable item
2024-03-18 15:35:22 <@nielsenb:fedora.im> I'll try with KDE here in a minute
2024-03-18 15:36:11 <@geraldosimiao:matrix.org> yeah, that was my error
2024-03-18 15:36:22 <@geraldosimiao:matrix.org> yeah, that was my fault
2024-03-18 15:37:39 <@nielsenb:fedora.im> So we don't actually have basic graphics concerns?
2024-03-18 15:37:54 <@nielsenb:fedora.im> Other than the usual existential dread
2024-03-18 15:38:09 <@adamwill:fedora.im> seems like it. but it's always a good thing to test
2024-03-18 15:38:09 <@kparal:matrix.org> Correct
2024-03-18 15:38:28 <@nielsenb:fedora.im> Okie
2024-03-18 15:39:38 <@adamwill:fedora.im> alright, moving on, then
2024-03-18 15:39:49 <@adamwill:fedora.im> !topic Test Day / community event status
2024-03-18 15:39:54 <@adamwill:fedora.im> Sumantro Mukherjee: are you around?
2024-03-18 15:41:04 <@adamwill:fedora.im> well, he was around an hour ago...:D
2024-03-18 15:41:21 <@adamwill:fedora.im> !info Fedora IoT test week is this week: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Test_Day:2024-03-18_Fedora_40_IoT_Edition#Prerequisites_for_Test_Day and https://testdays.fedoraproject.org/events/178
2024-03-18 15:42:43 <@adamwill:fedora.im> !info Podman Desktop test day with be 2024-03-20: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Test_Day:2024-03-20_Podman_Desktop
2024-03-18 15:42:56 <@adamwill:fedora.im> !info Podman 5 test day will be 2024-03-21: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Test_Day:2024-03-21_Podman_5
2024-03-18 15:43:13 <@adamwill:fedora.im> !info Toolbx test day will be 2024-03-27: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Test_Day:2024-03-27_Toolbx
2024-03-18 15:43:14 <@adamwill:fedora.im> welcome to containers week, I guess :D
2024-03-18 15:43:32 <@adamwill:fedora.im> anything else to note on this topic?
2024-03-18 15:45:09 <@geraldosimiao:matrix.org> not from me
2024-03-18 15:45:42 <@nhanlon:beeper.com> nope
2024-03-18 15:47:18 <@adamwill:fedora.im> alllrighty
2024-03-18 15:47:20 <@adamwill:fedora.im> !topic Open floor
2024-03-18 15:47:28 <@adamwill:fedora.im> any other business? a reminder that blocker review meeting is at the top of the hour
2024-03-18 15:47:39 <@adamwill:fedora.im> if you have blockers/FEs to propose, get them in before then, it helps
2024-03-18 15:50:23 <@adamwill:fedora.im> otherwise, we can wrap up
2024-03-18 15:52:05 <@adamwill:fedora.im> okay, thanks for coming, everyone!
2024-03-18 15:52:18 <@adamwill:fedora.im> go forth and continue to test F40...I *suspect* we'll wind up with a new compose one way or another, hopefully later today
2024-03-18 15:53:46 <@adamwill:fedora.im> !endmeeting