2024-06-24 15:00:24 <@adamwill:fedora.im> !startmeeting Quality
2024-06-24 15:00:25 <@meetbot:fedora.im> Meeting started at 2024-06-24 15:00:24 UTC
2024-06-24 15:00:26 <@meetbot:fedora.im> The Meeting name is 'Quality'
2024-06-24 15:00:29 <@adamwill:fedora.im> !topic Roll Call
2024-06-24 15:00:32 <@adamwill:fedora.im> !hi
2024-06-24 15:00:33 <@zodbot:fedora.im> Adam Williamson (adamwill) - he / him / his
2024-06-24 15:00:38 <@derekenz:fedora.im> !hi
2024-06-24 15:00:39 <@zodbot:fedora.im> Derek Enz (derekenz)
2024-06-24 15:01:01 <@adamwill:fedora.im> morning morning
2024-06-24 15:01:10 <@tflink:fedora.im> !hi
2024-06-24 15:01:10 <@zodbot:fedora.im> Tim Flink (tflink)
2024-06-24 15:02:32 <@lruzicka:matrix.org> Allo
2024-06-24 15:04:04 <@adamwill:fedora.im> how's everyone doing
2024-06-24 15:04:09 <@nhanlon:beeper.com> !hi
2024-06-24 15:04:11 <@zodbot:fedora.im> Neil Hanlon (neil) - he / him / his
2024-06-24 15:04:18 <@nhanlon:beeper.com> doing alright. how about yourself, Adam?
2024-06-24 15:04:30 <@derekenz:fedora.im> Ok thanks you?
2024-06-24 15:04:42 <@adamwill:fedora.im> pretty good pretty good
2024-06-24 15:05:20 <@adamwill:fedora.im> alrighty, well, let's get going...
2024-06-24 15:05:25 <@adamwill:fedora.im> !topic Previous meeting follow-up
2024-06-24 15:05:37 <@lruzicka:matrix.org> So so
2024-06-24 15:06:19 <@adamwill:fedora.im> !info "adamw to raise question of known cases where wayland doesn't work on the 'anaconda as native wayland app' and 'Workstation no X.org' changes" - did that on the discussion threads, https://discussion.fedoraproject.org/t/f41-change-proposal-anaconda-as-native-wayland-application-system-wide/118550/9 and https://discussion.fedoraproject.org/t/f41-change-proposal-wayland-only-gnome-workstation-media-self-contained/119447/2
2024-06-24 15:06:26 <@adamwill:fedora.im> any other follow-up?
2024-06-24 15:07:46 <@adamwill:fedora.im> hi kamil
2024-06-24 15:09:07 <@adamwill:fedora.im> !topic Fedora 41 status
2024-06-24 15:09:29 <@adamwill:fedora.im> !info Python 3.13 is mostly in now, we're still cleaning things up there
2024-06-24 15:10:30 <@adamwill:fedora.im> !info bin-sbin merge is planned this week: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/devel@lists.fedoraproject.org/message/3562IKYYO4YLC5IPS3WSV3DNQXW3V7QG/
2024-06-24 15:10:39 <@adamwill:fedora.im> that's quite a significant one, be on the lookout for broken stuff
2024-06-24 15:10:51 <@adamwill:fedora.im> any other notes on 41?
2024-06-24 15:15:01 <@adamwill:fedora.im> oh yeah, i need to look at that list again
2024-06-24 15:15:07 <@adamwill:fedora.im> i'll start running review meetings when it looks needed
2024-06-24 15:15:09 <@adamwill:fedora.im> thanks for voting
2024-06-24 15:15:27 <@adamwill:fedora.im> !info the blocker list is always at https://qa.fedoraproject.org/blockerbugs/current , please vote in tickets on current proposals
2024-06-24 15:17:13 <@lruzicka:matrix.org> Thanks for reminders, I'll vote, too.
2024-06-24 15:20:36 <@adamwill:fedora.im> !topic Test Day / community event status
2024-06-24 15:21:37 <@adamwill:fedora.im> !info accessibility test week is ongoing - https://testdays.fedoraproject.org/events/190 , https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Test_Day:2024-06-19_Fedora_41_A11Y
2024-06-24 15:22:02 <@adamwill:fedora.im> i think that's all we have dates for ATM
2024-06-24 15:24:15 <@adamwill:fedora.im> anything else on this?
2024-06-24 15:25:20 <@adamwill:fedora.im> !topic Open floor
2024-06-24 15:25:27 <@adamwill:fedora.im> anything else on anything? :D
2024-06-24 15:26:19 <@tflink:fedora.im> not really. the discussion on making KDE on aarch64 release blocking seems to be more or less resolved for the time being as I read it
2024-06-24 15:27:33 <@adamwill:fedora.im> yeah, well, informally
2024-06-24 15:27:40 <@lruzicka:matrix.org> have not read it yet, what the status?
2024-06-24 15:27:52 <@lruzicka:matrix.org> have not read it yet, what'đ the status?
2024-06-24 15:28:01 <@lruzicka:matrix.org> have not read it yet, what's the status?
2024-06-24 15:28:36 <@tflink:fedora.im> too much of an ask, it'll require fixing/refactoring of the image build process at a minimum and hopefully a choice between one of the two image types (disk image vs. live)
2024-06-24 15:30:22 <@tflink:fedora.im> I suspect that the topic will come up again before much longer - either in the form of "let's change the liveimage build process" or "this has been fixed, can we make it release blocking now?"
2024-06-24 15:31:08 <@adamwill:fedora.im> oh, we already want to change the live image builds
2024-06-24 15:31:14 <@adamwill:fedora.im> the fun question is osbuild vs. kiwi
2024-06-24 15:31:49 <@adamwill:fedora.im> this is why the experimental workstation osbuild-built live image exists. (though they *still* haven't fixed https://github.com/osbuild/images/issues/460 , which suggests nobody's working on it very hard...)
2024-06-24 15:32:20 <@adamwill:fedora.im> brb
2024-06-24 15:37:38 <@adamwill:fedora.im> welp, i guess that's everything
2024-06-24 15:37:40 <@adamwill:fedora.im> thanks for coming, folks
2024-06-24 15:37:58 <@derekenz:fedora.im> Thank you Adam
2024-06-24 15:38:20 <@adamwill:fedora.im> !endmeeting