#meeting:fedoraproject.org log

<@adamwill:fedora.im>

15:00:55

!startmeeting Quality

<@meetbot:fedora.im>

15:00:55

Meeting started at 2024-08-19 15:00:55 UTC

<@meetbot:fedora.im>

15:00:56

The Meeting name is 'Quality'

<@adamwill:fedora.im>

15:00:58

!topic Roll Call

<@amoloney:fedora.im>

15:01:02

!hi

<@zodbot:fedora.im>

15:01:02

Aoife Moloney (amoloney)

<@frantisekz:fedora.im>

15:01:05

!hi

<@zodbot:fedora.im>

15:01:06

František Zatloukal (frantisekz)

<@adamwill:fedora.im>

15:01:09

who's around for meeting fun times

<@derekenz:fedora.im>

15:01:09

!hi

<@zodbot:fedora.im>

15:01:10

Derek Enz (derekenz)

<@salimma:fedora.im>

15:01:33

!hi

<@zodbot:fedora.im>

15:01:34

Michel Lind (salimma) - he / him / his

<@tflink:fedora.im>

15:01:51

!hi

<@zodbot:fedora.im>

15:01:51

Tim Flink (tflink)

<@adamwill:fedora.im>

15:02:50

everybody! well this is exciting

<@lruzicka:matrix.org>

15:03:18

H. A. LLo

<@adamwill:fedora.im>

15:03:30

!topic Previous meeting follow-up

<@adamwill:fedora.im>

15:03:41

since Kamil Páral ran the last meeting, we have actual action items, how exciting

<@adamwill:fedora.im>

15:04:10

!info "kparal to update Desktop test matrix template to mark KDE as blocking on aarch64" - looks like that got done, https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Template:Desktop_test_matrix

<@adamwill:fedora.im>

15:04:46

!info "sumantrom to publish F39 and F40 community stats on commblog" - looks like this is work in progress, 39 is at https://communityblog.fedoraproject.org/heroes-of-fedora-fedora-39-contributions/ , I don't see 40 yet

<@adamwill:fedora.im>

15:04:55

!action sumantrom to publish F40 community stats on commblog

<@adamwill:fedora.im>

15:05:27

"kparal to create a document for describing distgit-related QA processes and our requirements/feedback for the replacement" - I think this got done and the feedback period is now closed, is that right?

<@frantisekz:fedora.im>

15:06:06

yeah, we have recurring meetings scheduled with Kamil Páral and jednorozec .

<@adamwill:fedora.im>

15:07:47

eeeeexcellent

<@adamwill:fedora.im>

15:08:04

!info "kparal to create a document for describing distgit-related QA processes and our requirements/feedback for the replacement" - this is complete, we now have regular meetings scheduled with CPE team as this moves forward

<@adamwill:fedora.im>

15:08:17

!info "everyone to collect our distgit-related processes, stories and requirements, once the document is live (see previous action item)" - see previous action item followup. :D

<@adamwill:fedora.im>

15:08:24

wow, i should let kamil run the meeting every week

<@adamwill:fedora.im>

15:08:29

any other followup?

<@adamwill:fedora.im>

15:10:18

alrighty

<@adamwill:fedora.im>

15:10:29

!topic Fedora 41 status

<@adamwill:fedora.im>

15:10:53

!info Fedora 41 branched last week, new backgrounds are in, I reverted anaconda to gtkui over the weekend, things should be mostly settled down now

<@adamwill:fedora.im>

15:11:52

!info next big date is August 27, which is the date we freeze for Beta and go to non-automatic updates in Bodhi, and the 100% code complete deadline for Changes

<@geraldosimiao:matrix.org>

15:12:01

!hi

<@zodbot:fedora.im>

15:12:02

Geraldo S. Simião Kutz (geraldosimiao) - he / him / his

<@adamwill:fedora.im>

15:12:04

!info blocker review meeting is right after this meeting over in #blocker-review:fedoraproject.org

<@adamwill:fedora.im>

15:12:08

hi geraldo!

<@adamwill:fedora.im>

15:12:11

any other notes on f41?

<@geraldosimiao:matrix.org>

15:12:25

Adam, anaconda webui is in for f41

<@geraldosimiao:matrix.org>

15:12:36

Despite being a f42 change

<@geraldosimiao:matrix.org>

15:12:51

This https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Category:ChangeAcceptedF42

<@amoloney:fedora.im>

15:13:21

FYI incomplete change report will be submitted to fesco this evening ahead of their meeting tomorrow for review

<@adamwill:fedora.im>

15:13:23

i changed that over the weekend, I just noted it

<@geraldosimiao:matrix.org>

15:13:34

Tested the 20240818 build

<@adamwill:fedora.im>

15:13:42

yeah, that was before i did it

<@adamwill:fedora.im>

15:13:53

looks like we didn't get a 41 compose this morning. maybe i broke it. :P let's see

<@geraldosimiao:matrix.org>

15:13:59

Maybe it goes right for the next one

<@adamwill:fedora.im>

15:14:26

huh. today's compose isn't done yet. stuck builder, maybe...

<@lruzicka:matrix.org>

15:14:33

I have one thing

<@lruzicka:matrix.org>

15:15:21

If it is, it does not work. Today I installed the latest nightly and there was the normal GUI.

<@lruzicka:matrix.org>

15:15:46

My finding: Orca does not work on F41. https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/orca/-/issues/534

<@geraldosimiao:matrix.org>

15:16:46

I used this https://dl.fedoraproject.org/pub/fedora/linux/development/41/Workstation/x86_64/iso/Fedora-Workstation-Live-x86_64-41-20240818.n.0.iso

<@frantisekz:fedora.im>

15:16:48

it is blocker material to be proposed and discussed at blocker review, imo

<@salimma:fedora.im>

15:16:53

was the intention to have it in Rawhide for testing then revert it at branching time?

<@adamwill:fedora.im>

15:17:01

no, he's right, the last branched compose had webui - https://openqa.fedoraproject.org/tests/2798821#step/_software_selection/1 . but the next one should have gtkui. see current f41 update tests, e.g. https://openqa.fedoraproject.org/tests/2801270#step/_boot_to_anaconda/6

<@adamwill:fedora.im>

15:17:19

lruzicka: yes, i saw it's on the blocker proposal list so we'll talk about it at blocker review?

<@adamwill:fedora.im>

15:17:39

Michel Lind 🎩: yes. this was planned ahead of time, but nobody put 'revert webui' on the branching todo list, so i just did it myself yesterday.

<@lruzicka:matrix.org>

15:17:47

Sure. I only wanted to make others know, cause it seems to me an important thing.

<@adamwill:fedora.im>

15:17:56

yes, for sure it is

<@adamwill:fedora.im>

15:18:54

lruzicka: looking at the bug, you tell people to discuss in the upstream tracker, but I don't see a link to the upstream tracker?

<@lruzicka:matrix.org>

15:19:20

is there not? yikes. I will fill it in

<@lruzicka:matrix.org>

15:20:21

adamw: The link is in the description, but I will also put it in the link field.

<@adamwill:fedora.im>

15:20:33

oh yes, I'm blind. sorry

<@adamwill:fedora.im>

15:21:42

alrighty

<@adamwill:fedora.im>

15:22:25

!topic Test Day / community event status

<@adamwill:fedora.im>

15:22:29

I believe we have some test days coming up

<@adamwill:fedora.im>

15:22:55

!info GNOME 47 desktop and core apps test day runs for the next few days: https://testdays.fedoraproject.org/events/194

<@adamwill:fedora.im>

15:23:21

!info i18n Test Week is coming up September 10: https://testdays.fedoraproject.org/events/195

<@adamwill:fedora.im>

15:23:28

others coming soon i'm sure :)

<@adamwill:fedora.im>

15:23:37

Sumantro Mukherjee: anything else?

<@adamwill:fedora.im>

15:26:47

alrighty then

<@adamwill:fedora.im>

15:26:49

!topic Open floor

<@adamwill:fedora.im>

15:27:06

I guess I should've put a conference followup topic on here...

<@adamwill:fedora.im>

15:28:06

!info several of us were at Flock 2024 and presented, you can find the livestreams at https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL0x39xti0_66gyHdkTSYTABUm2PQ1MGCh and the schedule at https://cfp.fedoraproject.org/flock-2024/schedule/ to find our talks, proper segmented videos should come later

<@adamwill:fedora.im>

15:28:22

!info adamw was at devconf.us and did a better version of his talk there, videos for that are not up yet

<@adamwill:fedora.im>

15:28:33

any other stuff coming out of flock that we should note?

<@adamwill:fedora.im>

15:28:58

!info adamw will be working with eseyman from Server SIG on refreshing Server tests to use the new ansible-driven roles eseyman is working on

<@adamwill:fedora.im>

15:34:42

alrighty, i guess if nobody has anything else, we'll meet again in 25 mins in #blocker-review:fedoraproject.org

<@lruzicka:matrix.org>

15:35:12

Ok, thanks for leading us towards better tomorrows.

<@derekenz:fedora.im>

15:35:21

Thanks Adam!

<@adamwill:fedora.im>

15:36:05

lruzicka: it's certainly *a* tomorrow

<@adamwill:fedora.im>

15:36:15

and we have never once yet failed to reach it

<@adamwill:fedora.im>

15:36:18

100% success rate

<@lruzicka:matrix.org>

15:37:11

hmm, can't you use it in plural as in "future"? You can in Czech :D

<@lruzicka:matrix.org>

15:37:29

such good we are :D

<@adamwill:fedora.im>

15:37:35

not really, but i wasn't correcting you, just intentionally leaving out "better" :D

<@lruzicka:matrix.org>

15:38:12

oh, I was killed by my own joke attempt then :D

<@adamwill:fedora.im>

15:39:01

!endmeeting