2024-08-19 15:00:55 <@adamwill:fedora.im> !startmeeting Quality
2024-08-19 15:00:55 <@meetbot:fedora.im> Meeting started at 2024-08-19 15:00:55 UTC
2024-08-19 15:00:56 <@meetbot:fedora.im> The Meeting name is 'Quality'
2024-08-19 15:00:58 <@adamwill:fedora.im> !topic Roll Call
2024-08-19 15:01:02 <@amoloney:fedora.im> !hi
2024-08-19 15:01:02 <@zodbot:fedora.im> Aoife Moloney (amoloney)
2024-08-19 15:01:05 <@frantisekz:fedora.im> !hi
2024-08-19 15:01:06 <@zodbot:fedora.im> František Zatloukal (frantisekz)
2024-08-19 15:01:09 <@adamwill:fedora.im> who's around for meeting fun times
2024-08-19 15:01:09 <@derekenz:fedora.im> !hi
2024-08-19 15:01:10 <@zodbot:fedora.im> Derek Enz (derekenz)
2024-08-19 15:01:33 <@salimma:fedora.im> !hi
2024-08-19 15:01:34 <@zodbot:fedora.im> Michel Lind (salimma) - he / him / his
2024-08-19 15:01:51 <@tflink:fedora.im> !hi
2024-08-19 15:01:51 <@zodbot:fedora.im> Tim Flink (tflink)
2024-08-19 15:02:50 <@adamwill:fedora.im> everybody! well this is exciting
2024-08-19 15:03:18 <@lruzicka:matrix.org> H. A. LLo
2024-08-19 15:03:30 <@adamwill:fedora.im> !topic Previous meeting follow-up
2024-08-19 15:03:41 <@adamwill:fedora.im> since Kamil Páral ran the last meeting, we have actual action items, how exciting
2024-08-19 15:04:10 <@adamwill:fedora.im> !info "kparal to update Desktop test matrix template to mark KDE as blocking on aarch64" - looks like that got done, https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Template:Desktop_test_matrix
2024-08-19 15:04:46 <@adamwill:fedora.im> !info "sumantrom to publish F39 and F40 community stats on commblog" - looks like this is work in progress, 39 is at https://communityblog.fedoraproject.org/heroes-of-fedora-fedora-39-contributions/ , I don't see 40 yet
2024-08-19 15:04:55 <@adamwill:fedora.im> !action sumantrom to publish F40 community stats on commblog
2024-08-19 15:05:27 <@adamwill:fedora.im> "kparal to create a document for describing distgit-related QA processes and our requirements/feedback for the replacement" - I think this got done and the feedback period is now closed, is that right?
2024-08-19 15:06:06 <@frantisekz:fedora.im> yeah, we have recurring meetings scheduled with Kamil Páral and jednorozec .
2024-08-19 15:07:47 <@adamwill:fedora.im> eeeeexcellent
2024-08-19 15:08:04 <@adamwill:fedora.im> !info "kparal to create a document for describing distgit-related QA processes and our requirements/feedback for the replacement" - this is complete, we now have regular meetings scheduled with CPE team as this moves forward
2024-08-19 15:08:17 <@adamwill:fedora.im> !info "everyone to collect our distgit-related processes, stories and requirements, once the document is live (see previous action item)" - see previous action item followup. :D
2024-08-19 15:08:24 <@adamwill:fedora.im> wow, i should let kamil run the meeting every week
2024-08-19 15:08:29 <@adamwill:fedora.im> any other followup?
2024-08-19 15:10:18 <@adamwill:fedora.im> alrighty
2024-08-19 15:10:29 <@adamwill:fedora.im> !topic Fedora 41 status
2024-08-19 15:10:53 <@adamwill:fedora.im> !info Fedora 41 branched last week, new backgrounds are in, I reverted anaconda to gtkui over the weekend, things should be mostly settled down now
2024-08-19 15:11:52 <@adamwill:fedora.im> !info next big date is August 27, which is the date we freeze for Beta and go to non-automatic updates in Bodhi, and the 100% code complete deadline for Changes
2024-08-19 15:12:01 <@geraldosimiao:matrix.org> !hi
2024-08-19 15:12:02 <@zodbot:fedora.im> Geraldo S. Simião Kutz (geraldosimiao) - he / him / his
2024-08-19 15:12:04 <@adamwill:fedora.im> !info blocker review meeting is right after this meeting over in #blocker-review:fedoraproject.org 
2024-08-19 15:12:08 <@adamwill:fedora.im> hi geraldo!
2024-08-19 15:12:11 <@adamwill:fedora.im> any other notes on f41?
2024-08-19 15:12:25 <@geraldosimiao:matrix.org> Adam, anaconda webui is in for f41
2024-08-19 15:12:36 <@geraldosimiao:matrix.org> Despite being a f42 change 
2024-08-19 15:12:51 <@geraldosimiao:matrix.org> This https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Category:ChangeAcceptedF42
2024-08-19 15:13:21 <@amoloney:fedora.im> FYI incomplete change report will be submitted to fesco this evening ahead of their meeting tomorrow for review 
2024-08-19 15:13:23 <@adamwill:fedora.im> i changed that over the weekend, I just noted it
2024-08-19 15:13:34 <@geraldosimiao:matrix.org> Tested the 20240818 build 
2024-08-19 15:13:42 <@adamwill:fedora.im> yeah, that was before i did it
2024-08-19 15:13:53 <@adamwill:fedora.im> looks like we didn't get a 41 compose this morning. maybe i broke it. :P let's see
2024-08-19 15:13:59 <@geraldosimiao:matrix.org> Maybe it goes right for the next one 
2024-08-19 15:14:26 <@adamwill:fedora.im> huh. today's compose isn't done yet. stuck builder, maybe...
2024-08-19 15:14:33 <@lruzicka:matrix.org> I have one thing
2024-08-19 15:15:21 <@lruzicka:matrix.org> If it is, it does not work. Today I installed the latest nightly and there was the normal GUI.
2024-08-19 15:15:46 <@lruzicka:matrix.org> My finding: Orca does not work on F41. https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/orca/-/issues/534
2024-08-19 15:16:46 <@geraldosimiao:matrix.org> I used this https://dl.fedoraproject.org/pub/fedora/linux/development/41/Workstation/x86_64/iso/Fedora-Workstation-Live-x86_64-41-20240818.n.0.iso
2024-08-19 15:16:48 <@frantisekz:fedora.im> it is blocker material to be proposed and discussed at blocker review, imo
2024-08-19 15:16:53 <@salimma:fedora.im> was the intention to have it in Rawhide for testing then revert it at branching time?
2024-08-19 15:17:01 <@adamwill:fedora.im> no, he's right, the last branched compose had webui - https://openqa.fedoraproject.org/tests/2798821#step/_software_selection/1 . but the next one should have gtkui. see current f41 update tests, e.g. https://openqa.fedoraproject.org/tests/2801270#step/_boot_to_anaconda/6
2024-08-19 15:17:19 <@adamwill:fedora.im> lruzicka: yes, i saw it's on the blocker proposal list so we'll talk about it at blocker review?
2024-08-19 15:17:39 <@adamwill:fedora.im> Michel Lind 🎩: yes. this was planned ahead of time, but nobody put 'revert webui' on the branching todo list, so i just did it myself yesterday.
2024-08-19 15:17:47 <@lruzicka:matrix.org> Sure. I only wanted to make others know, cause it seems to me an important thing.
2024-08-19 15:17:56 <@adamwill:fedora.im> yes, for sure it is
2024-08-19 15:18:54 <@adamwill:fedora.im> lruzicka: looking at the bug, you tell people to discuss in the upstream tracker, but I don't see a link to the upstream tracker?
2024-08-19 15:19:20 <@lruzicka:matrix.org> is there not? yikes. I will fill it in
2024-08-19 15:20:21 <@lruzicka:matrix.org> adamw: The link is in the description, but I will also put it in the link field.
2024-08-19 15:20:33 <@adamwill:fedora.im> oh yes, I'm blind. sorry
2024-08-19 15:21:42 <@adamwill:fedora.im> alrighty
2024-08-19 15:22:25 <@adamwill:fedora.im> !topic Test Day / community event status
2024-08-19 15:22:29 <@adamwill:fedora.im> I believe we have some test days coming up
2024-08-19 15:22:55 <@adamwill:fedora.im> !info GNOME 47 desktop and core apps test day runs for the next few days: https://testdays.fedoraproject.org/events/194
2024-08-19 15:23:21 <@adamwill:fedora.im> !info i18n Test Week is coming up September 10: https://testdays.fedoraproject.org/events/195
2024-08-19 15:23:28 <@adamwill:fedora.im> others coming soon i'm sure :)
2024-08-19 15:23:37 <@adamwill:fedora.im> Sumantro Mukherjee: anything else?
2024-08-19 15:26:47 <@adamwill:fedora.im> alrighty then
2024-08-19 15:26:49 <@adamwill:fedora.im> !topic Open floor
2024-08-19 15:27:06 <@adamwill:fedora.im> I guess I should've put a conference followup topic on here...
2024-08-19 15:28:06 <@adamwill:fedora.im> !info several of us were at Flock 2024 and presented, you can find the livestreams at https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL0x39xti0_66gyHdkTSYTABUm2PQ1MGCh and the schedule at https://cfp.fedoraproject.org/flock-2024/schedule/ to find our talks, proper segmented videos should come later
2024-08-19 15:28:22 <@adamwill:fedora.im> !info adamw was at devconf.us and did a better version of his talk there, videos for that are not up yet
2024-08-19 15:28:33 <@adamwill:fedora.im> any other stuff coming out of flock that we should note?
2024-08-19 15:28:58 <@adamwill:fedora.im> !info adamw will be working with eseyman from Server SIG on refreshing Server tests to use the new ansible-driven roles eseyman is working on
2024-08-19 15:34:42 <@adamwill:fedora.im> alrighty, i guess if nobody has anything else, we'll meet again in 25 mins in #blocker-review:fedoraproject.org 
2024-08-19 15:35:12 <@lruzicka:matrix.org> Ok, thanks for leading us towards better tomorrows.
2024-08-19 15:35:21 <@derekenz:fedora.im> Thanks Adam!
2024-08-19 15:36:05 <@adamwill:fedora.im> lruzicka: it's certainly *a* tomorrow
2024-08-19 15:36:15 <@adamwill:fedora.im> and we have never once yet failed to reach it
2024-08-19 15:36:18 <@adamwill:fedora.im> 100% success rate
2024-08-19 15:37:11 <@lruzicka:matrix.org> hmm, can't you use it in plural as in "future"? You can in Czech :D
2024-08-19 15:37:29 <@lruzicka:matrix.org> such good we are :D
2024-08-19 15:37:35 <@adamwill:fedora.im> not really, but i wasn't correcting you, just intentionally leaving out "better" :D
2024-08-19 15:38:12 <@lruzicka:matrix.org> oh, I was killed by my own joke attempt then :D
2024-08-19 15:39:01 <@adamwill:fedora.im> !endmeeting