#meeting:fedoraproject.org log

<@adamwill:fedora.im>

15:00:07

!startmeeting Quality

<@meetbot:fedora.im>

15:00:11

Meeting started at 2024-10-14 15:00:07 UTC

<@meetbot:fedora.im>

15:00:11

The Meeting name is 'Quality'

<@adamwill:fedora.im>

15:00:11

!topic Roll Call

<@adamwill:fedora.im>

15:00:14

!hi

<@zodbot:fedora.im>

15:00:16

Adam Williamson (adamwill) - he / him / his

<@derekenz:fedora.im>

15:00:23

!hi

<@zodbot:fedora.im>

15:00:24

Derek Enz (derekenz)

<@bittin:matrix.org>

15:00:44

!hi

<@zodbot:fedora.im>

15:00:48

No Fedora Accounts users have the @bittin:matrix.org Matrix Account defined

<@bittin:matrix.org>

15:00:54

!hi bittin

<@zodbot:fedora.im>

15:00:56

Luna Jernberg (bittin) - they / them / theirs

<@adamwill:fedora.im>

15:01:25

happy canadian thanksgiving, everyone

<@adamwill:fedora.im>

15:03:45

hehe

<@adamwill:fedora.im>

15:03:50

alrighty, let's get started

<@adamwill:fedora.im>

15:03:56

!topic Previous meeting follow-up

<@adamwill:fedora.im>

15:04:50

!info "adamw to propose rewording of the beta upgrade criterion footnote about package sets" - I still did not get to this. I am a failure. will get to it soon, I promise

<@adamwill:fedora.im>

15:04:53

!action adamw to propose rewording of the beta upgrade criterion footnote about package sets

<@adamwill:fedora.im>

15:05:10

any other followup? the other criterion proposal by sumantro is active on the list, please provide feedback

<@kparal:matrix.org>

15:05:36

adamw: your feedback on it would be great

<@bittin:matrix.org>

15:05:58

not been here for a while, been a bit too busy

<@adamwill:fedora.im>

15:07:56

yeah, i'll get to it :|

<@lruzicka:matrix.org>

15:08:09

Allo

<@adamwill:fedora.im>

15:08:10

i saw you had already sent it back for revisions so i was waiting on those

<@lruzicka:matrix.org>

15:09:11

I can take a look, too. Thanks for a reminder.

<@derekenz:fedora.im>

15:09:31

Yeah same here

<@adamwill:fedora.im>

15:10:18

thanks folks

<@adamwill:fedora.im>

15:10:32

!topic Fedora 41 status

<@adamwill:fedora.im>

15:10:40

so, we're nearing crunch time! freeze is tomorrow

<@bittin:matrix.org>

15:11:08

and Go/No Go Meeting on Thursday i think

<@bittin:matrix.org>

15:11:30

https://discussion.fedoraproject.org/t/fedora-operations-report/133731/1

<@adamwill:fedora.im>

15:12:08

the go/no-go is for the very optimistic target date

<@adamwill:fedora.im>

15:12:34

we'll have one if somehow all blockers are addressed tomorrow and we can do an RC, otherwise probably not

<@bittin:matrix.org>

15:12:45

ah alright

<@adamwill:fedora.im>

15:12:54

i think the dates got shuffled a bit for US thanskgiving, i would usually expect that early target to be a week later

<@bittin:matrix.org>

15:13:24

two more weeks, when its ready and all blockers are gone etc

<@adamwill:fedora.im>

15:14:35

usually the target #1 is a week after early target

<@adamwill:fedora.im>

15:14:43

this time it's two weeks after. so i think early target got moved up

<@adamwill:fedora.im>

15:14:50

anyhoo! great time to find, file and fix blockers. ;)

<@adamwill:fedora.im>

15:15:04

has anyone looked at the latest version of the pi fixes yet?

<@kparal:matrix.org>

15:16:40

and coremodule

<@adamwill:fedora.im>

15:18:02

welp, we'll come back to it

<@adamwill:fedora.im>

15:18:09

oh, hi

<@frantisekz:fedora.im>

15:18:41

Kamil Páral: on pto as said in the cz chat in the morning, no poking please

<@adamwill:fedora.im>

15:18:57

sorry franta

<@kparal:matrix.org>

15:19:03

forgot about that 🙂

<@kparal:matrix.org>

15:19:11

turn off your notifications! 🙂

<@adamwill:fedora.im>

15:19:12

enjoy pto, it can wait

<@adamwill:fedora.im>

15:19:57

don't think i was tracking anything else specific... Conan Kudo , do gnome/kde have any late surprises coming up for us?

<@lruzicka:matrix.org>

15:21:53

Today, I found that there are at least two preinstalled applications that did not want to start - InfoCenter and System Settings on KDE.

<@derekenz:fedora.im>

15:22:15

F41?

<@lruzicka:matrix.org>

15:22:45

Yes, F41, the 20241013 nightly

<@lruzicka:matrix.org>

15:23:22

I was unable to find any report in journalctl that would explain why this is happening.

<@adamwill:fedora.im>

15:24:04

oh yikes, i'd been writing the info center one off as the typing issue, but indeed it isn't :|

<@conan_kudo:matrix.org>

15:24:08

not that I knew of, I have a computer running nightly f41 doing quite fine

<@adamwill:fedora.im>

15:24:28

ditto system settings

<@lruzicka:matrix.org>

15:24:48

This happened at least 4 times in openQA today (I kept restarting it) and when I tried manually, I could reproduce that, too.

<@conan_kudo:matrix.org>

15:25:09

okay, I'll try to dig into it

<@conan_kudo:matrix.org>

15:25:18

I'll apply tonight's compose and see if I can repro

<@conan_kudo:matrix.org>

15:25:25

err last night's compose

<@lruzicka:matrix.org>

15:25:26

Maybe, you only could reproduce it on new installations?

<@adamwill:fedora.im>

15:27:34

the exact launching mechanism might matter too

<@adamwill:fedora.im>

15:28:09

openqa opens the kicker, types 'info center' or 'system settings', hits enter

<@adamwill:fedora.im>

15:28:26

we can see from the video that it *tries* to launch the right thing, but it doesn't work.

<@adamwill:fedora.im>

15:28:33

lruzicka: can you file a bug?

<@lruzicka:matrix.org>

15:28:55

adamw: Filed and proposed. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2318535

<@adamwill:fedora.im>

15:29:07

awesome

<@adamwill:fedora.im>

15:29:46

anything else on f41?

<@adamwill:fedora.im>

15:30:18

!topic Test Day / community event status

<@adamwill:fedora.im>

15:30:26

Sumantro Mukherjee: around?

<@bittin:matrix.org>

15:30:46

me and lemonzest helped out a bit on the updates testing with GNOME on various Dell laptops today (had some extra time)

<@adamwill:fedora.im>

15:31:03

thanks, bittin

<@amoloney:fedora.im>

15:31:10

Hes on PTO till 22nd Oct afaik

<@adamwill:fedora.im>

15:34:35

oh, right. yikes. i should keep an eye on the test days then. or does someone else want to?

<@bittin:matrix.org>

15:34:48

testdays app is down atm: https://testdays.fedoraproject.org/ (or only for me?)

<@adamwill:fedora.im>

15:34:48

sigh, and the app is down...probably openshift...

<@adamwill:fedora.im>

15:35:04

nirik is upgrading openshift clusters

<@bittin:matrix.org>

15:35:08

<@adamwill:fedora.im>

15:35:10

this affects a lot of stuff as, well, we host a lot of stuff on openshift

<@adamwill:fedora.im>

15:36:16

from the wiki it looks like upgrade test day is current: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Test_Day:2024-10-11_F41_Upgrade_Test_Day

<@adamwill:fedora.im>

15:36:20

so please help out with that!

<@adamwill:fedora.im>

15:36:24

(once testdays app is back :>)

<@nirik:matrix.scrye.com>

15:36:26

if we setup apps right it shouldn't cause any outage... but some apps are not setup with multiple pods, etc

<@adamwill:fedora.im>

15:36:32

!info upgrade test day is ongoing - https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Test_Day:2024-10-11_F41_Upgrade_Test_Day

<@adamwill:fedora.im>

15:37:17

!info virtualization and IoT test days happened last week - https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Test_Day:2024-10-11_Virtualization and https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Test_Day:2024-10-07_Fedora_41_IoT_Edition

<@adamwill:fedora.im>

15:37:25

not sure if we have any others upcoming

<@bittin:matrix.org>

15:38:32

and Pagure was getting DDOSed but maybe stopped now (nor do i)

<@bittin:matrix.org>

15:38:32

https://pagure.io/fedora-qa/issues?status=Open&tags=test+days

<@bittin:matrix.org>

15:39:47

not sure if: https://pagure.io/fedora-qa/issue/791 got a date ?

<@adamwill:fedora.im>

15:39:53

yeah, working from the pagure tickets is a bit tricky as they don't have dates or statuses on how far along they are in planning...i tend to use the app as source of truth #1 then the wiki as #2 :D

<@bittin:matrix.org>

15:40:05

ah oki

<@bittin:matrix.org>

15:41:25

its up now again

<@adamwill:fedora.im>

15:43:14

yay

<@adamwill:fedora.im>

15:45:39

!info virtualization test day had decent participation and a couple of bugs filed

<@adamwill:fedora.im>

15:46:03

!info IoT test week also had some good turnout and covered all the test cases

<@adamwill:fedora.im>

15:46:26

!info CoreOS test day happened at https://testdays.fedoraproject.org/events/198 and similarly results look good

<@adamwill:fedora.im>

15:46:31

alrighty

<@adamwill:fedora.im>

15:46:35

!topic Open floor

<@adamwill:fedora.im>

15:46:37

any other business, folks?

<@bittin:matrix.org>

15:46:53

don't have anything

<@adamwill:fedora.im>

15:46:58

talking about virtualization test day reminds me about https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2317048 - it would be great if more folks can test that

<@adamwill:fedora.im>

15:47:13

the report is that f41 doesn't work on UEFI on VMware, grub2 issue

<@lruzicka:matrix.org>

15:49:31

Not at the moment.

<@derekenz:fedora.im>

15:52:20

Nothing here. Hopefully will run some test days stuff

<@adamwill:fedora.im>

15:52:36

thanks for that derek

<@adamwill:fedora.im>

15:52:54

!info additional testing on the VMware / F41 bug reported at https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2317048 would be great

<@adamwill:fedora.im>

15:53:00

blocker review starting in 8 minutes

<@adamwill:fedora.im>

15:53:53

thanks for coming, folks!

<@bittin:matrix.org>

15:54:08

not joining that, but thx for this meeting

<@derekenz:fedora.im>

15:54:09

Thanks Adam

<@adamwill:fedora.im>

15:55:17

!endmeeting