#meeting:fedoraproject.org log

<@adamwill:fedora.im>

15:00:13

!startmeeting Quality

<@meetbot:fedora.im>

15:00:14

Meeting started at 2025-04-14 15:00:13 UTC

<@meetbot:fedora.im>

15:00:15

The Meeting name is 'Quality'

<@adamwill:fedora.im>

15:00:16

!topic Roll Call

<@adamwill:fedora.im>

15:00:20

!hi

<@zodbot:fedora.im>

15:00:22

Adam Williamson (adamwill) - he / him / his

<@nielsenb:fedora.im>

15:00:26

!hi

<@zodbot:fedora.im>

15:00:28

Brandon Nielsen (nielsenb)

<@boniboyblue:fedora.im>

15:00:32

!hi

<@zodbot:fedora.im>

15:00:33

Christopher Boni (boniboyblue)

<@adamwill:fedora.im>

15:00:35

hi hi hi everybody

<@bittin:matrix.org>

15:00:54

hey

<@derekenz:fedora.im>

15:01:41

!hi

<@zodbot:fedora.im>

15:01:43

Derek Enz (derekenz)

<@adamwill:fedora.im>

15:01:57

how are we all doing this fine f42 monday

<@derekenz:fedora.im>

15:02:20

Ok thanks, you Adam?

<@adamwill:fedora.im>

15:02:32

not bad, thanks

<@boniboyblue:fedora.im>

15:02:55

Can't complain too much.

<@bittin:matrix.org>

15:03:22

a bit tired but alright, listening to Atari ST chiptunes and updating my Fedora laptop

<@bittin:matrix.org>

15:03:28

saw the torrents is out

<@bittin:matrix.org>

15:03:44

https://torrent.fedoraproject.org/

<@adamwill:fedora.im>

15:03:58

yup, they come out a bit early so we can get some seeds ready for tomorrow

<@adamwill:fedora.im>

15:04:05

if folks can help seed that's appreciated, of course

<@adamwill:fedora.im>

15:04:17

speaking of, let's get onto the topic!

<@adamwill:fedora.im>

15:04:26

!topic Previous meeting follow-up

<@adamwill:fedora.im>

15:04:39

!info nothing to follow up on

<@adamwill:fedora.im>

15:04:49

!topic Fedora 42 pre-release checks and thanks

<@adamwill:fedora.im>

15:05:06

!info Fedora 42 torrents are out at https://torrent.fedoraproject.org/ - if you can help seed that will be great for the release

<@adamwill:fedora.im>

15:05:30

!info general Fedora 42 release is tomorrow (Tuesday)

<@adamwill:fedora.im>

15:06:01

!info common bugs issues are mostly written up over at https://discussion.fedoraproject.org/c/ask/common-issues/82/none , thanks to Kamil Páral for whipping those into shape

<@adamwill:fedora.im>

15:06:40

does anyone have any last minute disasters, or anything else we should worry about before release?

<@bittin:matrix.org>

15:07:23

not yet :p

<@boniboyblue:fedora.im>

15:07:32

Nothing that I've heard about.

<@derekenz:fedora.im>

15:07:42

Ok so far

<@adamwill:fedora.im>

15:08:40

that's good :)

<@adamwill:fedora.im>

15:10:31

!agreed many thanks to everyone who helped test f42 beta and final and made the release go smoothly!

<@kparal:matrix.org>

15:10:36

my matrix decided to work again, I'm here

<@adamwill:fedora.im>

15:10:41

great job everyone

<@adamwill:fedora.im>

15:10:47

hi kamil

<@kparal:matrix.org>

15:10:52

I'm still finishing some of the common issues

<@kparal:matrix.org>

15:10:59

thanks Adam for preparing many of them

<@adamwill:fedora.im>

15:11:09

i can take another look through my bz search later today for any stragglers

<@adamwill:fedora.im>

15:12:02

ok, anything else on f42 before we move on to the new shiny? :D

<@bittin:matrix.org>

15:12:18

did not had as much energy as i wanted this cycle as i been sick a lot and still are, and been travelling

<@boniboyblue:fedora.im>

15:12:45

Are they all out yet? Can't seem to find KDE Desktop.

<@adamwill:fedora.im>

15:12:51

that's all good, bittin- , it can get that way

<@adamwill:fedora.im>

15:13:20

Christopher Boni hmm, that may be to do with the editionization process?

<@adamwill:fedora.im>

15:13:30

nirik any thoughts?

<@nirik:matrix.scrye.com>

15:13:32

no, it's not there, we need to fix it. ;)

<@adamwill:fedora.im>

15:13:44

it's qa live before your eyes, folks!

<@adamwill:fedora.im>

15:14:02

nice catch Christopher Boni

<@adamwill:fedora.im>

15:14:46

alrighty then

<@adamwill:fedora.im>

15:14:54

!topic Fedora 43 cycle pre-planning

<@adamwill:fedora.im>

15:15:05

so, the reward for a job well done is another job, as always ;)

<@bittin:matrix.org>

15:15:58

saw Sumantro Mukherjee sent out an email for 43 test days

<@bittin:matrix.org>

15:16:05

saw Sumantro Mukherjee sent out an email for 43 test days planning

<@adamwill:fedora.im>

15:16:31

!info dates for your diary: F40 goes EOL on May 13, F43 Branch is August 12, F43 Beta freeze is August 26

<@adamwill:fedora.im>

15:16:58

!info detailed F43 schedule at https://fedorapeople.org/groups/schedule/f-43/f-43-key-tasks.html and https://fedorapeople.org/groups/schedule/f-43/f-43-quality-tasks.html

<@adamwill:fedora.im>

15:17:55

we have some notable ongoing Stuff for this cycle, i'd say

<@adamwill:fedora.im>

15:18:09

we should talk to anaconda team about webui plans

<@adamwill:fedora.im>

15:18:45

we need to either make the 'test webui in anaconda ci' plan more solid or abandon it and switch to openqa testing

<@adamwill:fedora.im>

15:19:08

and look over release criteria/test cases again and find anything we're missing, like non-storage coverage

<@adamwill:fedora.im>

15:19:33

and find out what the plan is for spreading webui beyond workstation live

<@adamwill:fedora.im>

15:19:44

i'm planning to take that stuff, if nobody objects :)

<@nielsenb:fedora.im>

15:20:03

Sounds like a plan

<@bittin:matrix.org>

15:20:15

sounds good

<@nirik:matrix.scrye.com>

15:20:38

another date to consider is the datacenter move week. Please no test week that week. :)

<@adamwill:fedora.im>

15:20:46

yes, indeed

<@adamwill:fedora.im>

15:21:09

!action adamw to check in with anaconda team and co-ordinate plans for webui during f43 cycle

<@derekenz:fedora.im>

15:21:13

When is the move?

<@adamwill:fedora.im>

15:21:26

nirik wanna take that one?

<@nirik:matrix.scrye.com>

15:22:08

current plan is the week of june 16th.

<@nirik:matrix.scrye.com>

15:22:17

(for the switcharoo to the new datacenter)

<@derekenz:fedora.im>

15:22:35

Ok thx

<@adamwill:fedora.im>

15:23:38

i'm gonna be on PTO around then, though, so we'll figure out a date for the openqa switch that hopefully works for both of us

<@adamwill:fedora.im>

15:24:47

!info Fedora infrastructure is moving datacenters in June. that will affect openQA, Fedora CI and blockerbugs - of course also everything else, but those are the ones primarily of interest to us. announcements and outage windows will follow closer to the date

<@adamwill:fedora.im>

15:25:50

nirik so...the forgejo move is also likely to happen this cycle, right?

<@kparal:matrix.org>

15:26:13

adamw: are you planning your vacations based on Fedora release schedule? 😄

<@nirik:matrix.scrye.com>

15:26:20

I'm not sure... I think thats optimistic. ;)

<@adamwill:fedora.im>

15:28:20

oh dear. :D

<@adamwill:fedora.im>

15:28:37

Kamil Páral it seems to be more like I'm *anti-*planning them...

<@adamwill:fedora.im>

15:32:45

!info forgejo migration may come during Fedora 43 cycle, or...not. if it does seem to be impending, we are going to have to handle migrating blockerbugs to it. also all our other repos like fedora-qa and os-autoinst-distri-fedora and qa-misc and so on, but those should be straightforward

<@adamwill:fedora.im>

15:34:29

taking a quick look at f43 changes...https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Category:ChangeAcceptedF43

<@adamwill:fedora.im>

15:34:45

Aoife Moloney could we get the F43 changeset page generated, btw?

<@adamwill:fedora.im>

15:35:10

!info https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/BootLoaderUpdatesPhase1 will obviously need close attention

<@adamwill:fedora.im>

15:36:07

!info https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/DisableSTI is worth being aware of

<@adamwill:fedora.im>

15:36:48

!info https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/ModernizeLiveMedia is Conan Kudo 's latest attempt to sabotage us all for the greater glory of SUSE

<@adamwill:fedora.im>

15:37:37

!info https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/RPM-6.0 could obviously break the world

<@conan_kudo:matrix.org>

15:37:48

lol

<@adamwill:fedora.im>

15:37:51

!info https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/Python3.14 will no doubt suck up a month of my time shortly

<@conan_kudo:matrix.org>

15:38:16

I really should have split that Change document in two

<@adamwill:fedora.im>

15:39:26

i think maybe you could? it might have to go back to proposed though

<@conan_kudo:matrix.org>

15:40:18

then probably not worth it

<@conan_kudo:matrix.org>

15:40:32

half of the change has been done for a while, since we moved to livesys-scripts several releases ago

<@conan_kudo:matrix.org>

15:40:52

the persistence stuff just needs some more selinux tinkering I think

<@adamwill:fedora.im>

15:41:31

it'd be great if you can try to get it in nice and early so we have time to find the bugs

<@adamwill:fedora.im>

15:44:36

alrighty

<@adamwill:fedora.im>

15:44:43

anyone have any other thoughts, plans etc for f43?

<@conan_kudo:matrix.org>

15:44:49

yeah I want to :)

<@conan_kudo:matrix.org>

15:45:02

it should be easier to test now that we have kiwi :)

<@adamwill:fedora.im>

15:47:07

!topic Test Day / community event status

<@adamwill:fedora.im>

15:47:12

Sumantro Mukherjee around?

<@adamwill:fedora.im>

15:48:56

!info kernel 6.14 test week went well: https://pagure.io/fedora-qa/issue/809#comment-963299

<@adamwill:fedora.im>

15:49:22

!info F42 upgrade test week also went off successfully: https://testdays.fedoraproject.org/events/212

<@bittin:matrix.org>

15:49:38

and still around 1 day left on the GNOME test week

<@bittin:matrix.org>

15:49:44

https://testdays.fedoraproject.org/events/218

<@bittin:matrix.org>

15:49:55

not sure how much its left to test however if the compose iso is done :p

<@adamwill:fedora.im>

15:50:04

!info GNOME 48 test week is ending soon, drop by and add some results if you can: https://testdays.fedoraproject.org/events/218

<@adamwill:fedora.im>

15:50:08

we can always fix bugs with updates!

<@bittin:matrix.org>

15:51:23

true

<@adamwill:fedora.im>

15:51:35

thanks to everyone who helped test in the recent events!

<@conan_kudo:matrix.org>

15:51:57

test days don't have to be associated with a fedora release :)

<@adamwill:fedora.im>

15:52:42

they usually are, though, for hysterical raisins. well, not just those, they *are* kinda tied to the cycle in some ways as they're often related to Changes or other features of the upcoming release

<@adamwill:fedora.im>

15:52:47

the kernel test weeks are exceptions atm

<@adamwill:fedora.im>

15:53:51

!topic Open floor

<@adamwill:fedora.im>

15:53:53

any other business?

<@bittin:matrix.org>

15:55:06

don't have anything

<@derekenz:fedora.im>

15:55:25

Nothing here for now

<@nielsenb:fedora.im>

15:55:29

Not from me

<@adamwill:fedora.im>

15:55:45

ok, thanks again for the f42 work everyone! great job

<@adamwill:fedora.im>

15:55:47

see you next time

<@boniboyblue:fedora.im>

15:56:05

Cheerio.

<@derekenz:fedora.im>

15:56:13

As always thank you Adam!

<@adamwill:fedora.im>

15:56:42

!endmeeting