2025-04-14 15:00:13 <@adamwill:fedora.im> !startmeeting Quality
2025-04-14 15:00:14 <@meetbot:fedora.im> Meeting started at 2025-04-14 15:00:13 UTC
2025-04-14 15:00:15 <@meetbot:fedora.im> The Meeting name is 'Quality'
2025-04-14 15:00:16 <@adamwill:fedora.im> !topic Roll Call
2025-04-14 15:00:20 <@adamwill:fedora.im> !hi
2025-04-14 15:00:22 <@zodbot:fedora.im> Adam Williamson (adamwill) - he / him / his
2025-04-14 15:00:26 <@nielsenb:fedora.im> !hi
2025-04-14 15:00:28 <@zodbot:fedora.im> Brandon Nielsen (nielsenb)
2025-04-14 15:00:32 <@boniboyblue:fedora.im> !hi
2025-04-14 15:00:33 <@zodbot:fedora.im> Christopher Boni (boniboyblue)
2025-04-14 15:00:35 <@adamwill:fedora.im> hi hi hi everybody
2025-04-14 15:00:54 <@bittin:matrix.org> hey
2025-04-14 15:01:41 <@derekenz:fedora.im> !hi
2025-04-14 15:01:43 <@zodbot:fedora.im> Derek Enz (derekenz)
2025-04-14 15:01:57 <@adamwill:fedora.im> how are we all doing this fine f42 monday
2025-04-14 15:02:20 <@derekenz:fedora.im> Ok thanks, you Adam?
2025-04-14 15:02:32 <@adamwill:fedora.im> not bad, thanks
2025-04-14 15:02:55 <@boniboyblue:fedora.im> Can't complain too much. 
2025-04-14 15:03:22 <@bittin:matrix.org> a bit tired but alright, listening to Atari ST chiptunes and updating my Fedora laptop 
2025-04-14 15:03:28 <@bittin:matrix.org> saw the torrents is out 
2025-04-14 15:03:44 <@bittin:matrix.org> https://torrent.fedoraproject.org/
2025-04-14 15:03:58 <@adamwill:fedora.im> yup, they come out a bit early so we can get some seeds ready for tomorrow
2025-04-14 15:04:05 <@adamwill:fedora.im> if folks can help seed that's appreciated, of course
2025-04-14 15:04:17 <@adamwill:fedora.im> speaking of, let's get onto the topic!
2025-04-14 15:04:26 <@adamwill:fedora.im> !topic Previous meeting follow-up
2025-04-14 15:04:39 <@adamwill:fedora.im> !info nothing to follow up on
2025-04-14 15:04:49 <@adamwill:fedora.im> !topic Fedora 42 pre-release checks and thanks
2025-04-14 15:05:06 <@adamwill:fedora.im> !info Fedora 42 torrents are out at https://torrent.fedoraproject.org/ - if you can help seed that will be great for the release
2025-04-14 15:05:30 <@adamwill:fedora.im> !info general Fedora 42 release is tomorrow (Tuesday)
2025-04-14 15:06:01 <@adamwill:fedora.im> !info common bugs issues are mostly written up over at https://discussion.fedoraproject.org/c/ask/common-issues/82/none , thanks to Kamil Páral for whipping those into shape
2025-04-14 15:06:40 <@adamwill:fedora.im> does anyone have any last minute disasters, or anything else we should worry about before release?
2025-04-14 15:07:23 <@bittin:matrix.org> not yet :p
2025-04-14 15:07:32 <@boniboyblue:fedora.im> Nothing that I've heard about.
2025-04-14 15:07:42 <@derekenz:fedora.im> Ok so far
2025-04-14 15:08:40 <@adamwill:fedora.im> that's good :)
2025-04-14 15:10:31 <@adamwill:fedora.im> !agreed many thanks to everyone who helped test f42 beta and final and made the release go smoothly!
2025-04-14 15:10:36 <@kparal:matrix.org> my matrix decided to work again, I'm here
2025-04-14 15:10:41 <@adamwill:fedora.im> great job everyone
2025-04-14 15:10:47 <@adamwill:fedora.im> hi kamil
2025-04-14 15:10:52 <@kparal:matrix.org> I'm still finishing some of the common issues
2025-04-14 15:10:59 <@kparal:matrix.org> thanks Adam for preparing many of them
2025-04-14 15:11:09 <@adamwill:fedora.im> i can take another look through my bz search later today for any stragglers
2025-04-14 15:12:02 <@adamwill:fedora.im> ok, anything else on f42 before we move on to the new shiny? :D
2025-04-14 15:12:18 <@bittin:matrix.org> did not had as much energy as i wanted this cycle as i been sick a lot and still are, and been travelling
2025-04-14 15:12:45 <@boniboyblue:fedora.im> Are they all out yet? Can't seem to find KDE Desktop.
2025-04-14 15:12:51 <@adamwill:fedora.im> that's all good, bittin- , it can get that way
2025-04-14 15:13:20 <@adamwill:fedora.im> Christopher Boni hmm, that may be to do with the editionization process?
2025-04-14 15:13:30 <@adamwill:fedora.im> nirik any thoughts?
2025-04-14 15:13:32 <@nirik:matrix.scrye.com> no, it's not there, we need to fix it. ;)
2025-04-14 15:13:44 <@adamwill:fedora.im> it's qa live before your eyes, folks!
2025-04-14 15:14:02 <@adamwill:fedora.im> nice catch Christopher Boni
2025-04-14 15:14:46 <@adamwill:fedora.im> alrighty then
2025-04-14 15:14:54 <@adamwill:fedora.im> !topic Fedora 43 cycle pre-planning
2025-04-14 15:15:05 <@adamwill:fedora.im> so, the reward for a job well done is another job, as always ;)
2025-04-14 15:15:58 <@bittin:matrix.org> saw Sumantro Mukherjee sent out an email for 43 test days
2025-04-14 15:16:05 <@bittin:matrix.org> saw Sumantro Mukherjee sent out an email for 43 test days planning
2025-04-14 15:16:31 <@adamwill:fedora.im> !info dates for your diary: F40 goes EOL on May 13, F43 Branch is August 12, F43 Beta freeze is August 26
2025-04-14 15:16:58 <@adamwill:fedora.im> !info detailed F43 schedule at https://fedorapeople.org/groups/schedule/f-43/f-43-key-tasks.html and https://fedorapeople.org/groups/schedule/f-43/f-43-quality-tasks.html
2025-04-14 15:17:55 <@adamwill:fedora.im> we have some notable ongoing Stuff for this cycle, i'd say
2025-04-14 15:18:09 <@adamwill:fedora.im> we should talk to anaconda team about webui plans
2025-04-14 15:18:45 <@adamwill:fedora.im> we need to either make the 'test webui in anaconda ci' plan more solid or abandon it and switch to openqa testing
2025-04-14 15:19:08 <@adamwill:fedora.im> and look over release criteria/test cases again and find anything we're missing, like non-storage coverage
2025-04-14 15:19:33 <@adamwill:fedora.im> and find out what the plan is for spreading webui beyond workstation live
2025-04-14 15:19:44 <@adamwill:fedora.im> i'm planning to take that stuff, if nobody objects :)
2025-04-14 15:20:03 <@nielsenb:fedora.im> Sounds like a plan
2025-04-14 15:20:15 <@bittin:matrix.org> sounds good
2025-04-14 15:20:38 <@nirik:matrix.scrye.com> another date to consider is the datacenter move week. Please no test week that week. :)
2025-04-14 15:20:46 <@adamwill:fedora.im> yes, indeed
2025-04-14 15:21:09 <@adamwill:fedora.im> !action adamw to check in with anaconda team and co-ordinate plans for webui during f43 cycle
2025-04-14 15:21:13 <@derekenz:fedora.im> When is the move?
2025-04-14 15:21:26 <@adamwill:fedora.im> nirik wanna take that one?
2025-04-14 15:22:08 <@nirik:matrix.scrye.com> current plan is the week of june 16th.
2025-04-14 15:22:17 <@nirik:matrix.scrye.com> (for the switcharoo to the new datacenter)
2025-04-14 15:22:35 <@derekenz:fedora.im> Ok thx
2025-04-14 15:23:38 <@adamwill:fedora.im> i'm gonna be on PTO around then, though, so we'll figure out a date for the openqa switch that hopefully works for both of us
2025-04-14 15:24:47 <@adamwill:fedora.im> !info Fedora infrastructure is moving datacenters in June. that will affect openQA, Fedora CI and blockerbugs - of course also everything else, but those are the ones primarily of interest to us. announcements and outage windows will follow closer to the date
2025-04-14 15:25:50 <@adamwill:fedora.im> nirik so...the forgejo move is also likely to happen this cycle, right?
2025-04-14 15:26:13 <@kparal:matrix.org> adamw: are you planning your vacations based on Fedora release schedule? 😄 
2025-04-14 15:26:20 <@nirik:matrix.scrye.com> I'm not sure... I think thats optimistic. ;)
2025-04-14 15:28:20 <@adamwill:fedora.im> oh dear. :D
2025-04-14 15:28:37 <@adamwill:fedora.im> Kamil Páral it seems to be more like I'm *anti-*planning them...
2025-04-14 15:32:45 <@adamwill:fedora.im> !info forgejo migration may come during Fedora 43 cycle, or...not. if it does seem to be impending, we are going to have to handle migrating blockerbugs to it. also all our other repos like fedora-qa and os-autoinst-distri-fedora and qa-misc and so on, but those should be straightforward
2025-04-14 15:34:29 <@adamwill:fedora.im> taking a quick look at f43 changes...https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Category:ChangeAcceptedF43
2025-04-14 15:34:45 <@adamwill:fedora.im> Aoife Moloney could we get the F43 changeset page generated, btw?
2025-04-14 15:35:10 <@adamwill:fedora.im> !info https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/BootLoaderUpdatesPhase1 will obviously need close attention
2025-04-14 15:36:07 <@adamwill:fedora.im> !info https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/DisableSTI is worth being aware of
2025-04-14 15:36:48 <@adamwill:fedora.im> !info https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/ModernizeLiveMedia is Conan Kudo 's latest attempt to sabotage us all for the greater glory of SUSE
2025-04-14 15:37:37 <@adamwill:fedora.im> !info https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/RPM-6.0 could obviously break the world
2025-04-14 15:37:48 <@conan_kudo:matrix.org> lol
2025-04-14 15:37:51 <@adamwill:fedora.im> !info https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/Python3.14 will no doubt suck up a month of my time shortly
2025-04-14 15:38:16 <@conan_kudo:matrix.org> I really should have split that Change document in two
2025-04-14 15:39:26 <@adamwill:fedora.im> i think maybe you could? it might have to go back to proposed though
2025-04-14 15:40:18 <@conan_kudo:matrix.org> then probably not worth it
2025-04-14 15:40:32 <@conan_kudo:matrix.org> half of the change has been done for a while, since we moved to livesys-scripts several releases ago
2025-04-14 15:40:52 <@conan_kudo:matrix.org> the persistence stuff just needs some more selinux tinkering I think
2025-04-14 15:41:31 <@adamwill:fedora.im> it'd be great if you can try to get it in nice and early so we have time to find the bugs
2025-04-14 15:44:36 <@adamwill:fedora.im> alrighty
2025-04-14 15:44:43 <@adamwill:fedora.im> anyone have any other thoughts, plans etc for f43?
2025-04-14 15:44:49 <@conan_kudo:matrix.org> yeah I want to :)
2025-04-14 15:45:02 <@conan_kudo:matrix.org> it should be easier to test now that we have kiwi :)
2025-04-14 15:47:07 <@adamwill:fedora.im> !topic Test Day / community event status
2025-04-14 15:47:12 <@adamwill:fedora.im> Sumantro Mukherjee around?
2025-04-14 15:48:56 <@adamwill:fedora.im> !info kernel 6.14 test week went well: https://pagure.io/fedora-qa/issue/809#comment-963299
2025-04-14 15:49:22 <@adamwill:fedora.im> !info F42 upgrade test week also went off successfully: https://testdays.fedoraproject.org/events/212
2025-04-14 15:49:38 <@bittin:matrix.org> and still around 1 day left on the GNOME test week
2025-04-14 15:49:44 <@bittin:matrix.org> https://testdays.fedoraproject.org/events/218
2025-04-14 15:49:55 <@bittin:matrix.org> not sure how much its left to test however if the compose iso is done :p
2025-04-14 15:50:04 <@adamwill:fedora.im> !info GNOME 48 test week is ending soon, drop by and add some results if you can: https://testdays.fedoraproject.org/events/218
2025-04-14 15:50:08 <@adamwill:fedora.im> we can always fix bugs with updates!
2025-04-14 15:51:23 <@bittin:matrix.org> true
2025-04-14 15:51:35 <@adamwill:fedora.im> thanks to everyone who helped test in the recent events!
2025-04-14 15:51:57 <@conan_kudo:matrix.org> test days don't have to be associated with a fedora release :)
2025-04-14 15:52:42 <@adamwill:fedora.im> they usually are, though, for hysterical raisins. well, not just those, they *are* kinda tied to the cycle in some ways as they're often related to Changes or other features of the upcoming release
2025-04-14 15:52:47 <@adamwill:fedora.im> the kernel test weeks are exceptions atm
2025-04-14 15:53:51 <@adamwill:fedora.im> !topic Open floor
2025-04-14 15:53:53 <@adamwill:fedora.im> any other business?
2025-04-14 15:55:06 <@bittin:matrix.org> don't have anything
2025-04-14 15:55:25 <@derekenz:fedora.im> Nothing here  for now
2025-04-14 15:55:29 <@nielsenb:fedora.im> Not from me
2025-04-14 15:55:45 <@adamwill:fedora.im> ok, thanks again for the f42 work everyone! great job
2025-04-14 15:55:47 <@adamwill:fedora.im> see you next time
2025-04-14 15:56:05 <@boniboyblue:fedora.im> Cheerio.
2025-04-14 15:56:13 <@derekenz:fedora.im> As always thank you Adam!
2025-04-14 15:56:42 <@adamwill:fedora.im> !endmeeting