<@adamwill:fedora.im>
14:59:51
!startmeeting Quality
<@meetbot:fedora.im>
14:59:53
Meeting started at 2025-05-12 14:59:51 UTC
<@meetbot:fedora.im>
14:59:53
The Meeting name is 'Quality'
<@adamwill:fedora.im>
14:59:56
!topic Roll Call
<@adamwill:fedora.im>
15:00:01
!hi
<@zodbot:fedora.im>
15:00:04
Adam Williamson (adamwill) - he / him / his
<@adamwill:fedora.im>
15:00:05
who's around for quality fun times?
<@sumantrom:fedora.im>
15:00:06
!hi
<@zodbot:fedora.im>
15:00:07
Sumantro Mukherjee (sumantrom) - he / him / his
<@sumantrom:fedora.im>
15:00:17
Adamw, I'm :)))
<@sumantrom:fedora.im>
15:00:41
adamw: how have you been?
<@sumantrom:fedora.im>
15:02:44
Kamil Páral: heyyyyy o/
<@adamwill:fedora.im>
15:03:45
hi hi
<@adamwill:fedora.im>
15:03:52
pretty good Sumantro Mukherjee thanks, hope everything's okay with you
<@adamwill:fedora.im>
15:04:22
my standard heuristic for "how bad are things in India?" includes the rule "if they cancel the cricket, start panicking"
<@sumantrom:fedora.im>
15:05:00
nah mostly flights on the western end got cancelled... there is ceasefire in place...
<@adamwill:fedora.im>
15:05:06
yeah, i read that
<@sumantrom:fedora.im>
15:05:13
powercuts and internet was down
<@sumantrom:fedora.im>
15:05:45
its summer so we were kind expecting powercuts anyway :)))
<@sumantrom:fedora.im>
15:06:00
few areas saw blackouts ...
<@sumantrom:fedora.im>
15:06:38
for me nothing much changes if internet and pwer keeps supporting.. otherwise, we are fine :D
<@bittin:matrix.org>
15:07:11
!hi
<@zodbot:fedora.im>
15:07:13
No Fedora Accounts users have the @bittin:matrix.org Matrix Account defined
<@bittin:matrix.org>
15:07:23
!hi bittin
<@zodbot:fedora.im>
15:07:24
Luna Jernberg (bittin) - they / them / theirs
<@adamwill:fedora.im>
15:08:19
hi bittin
<@adamwill:fedora.im>
15:09:30
alrighty, let's get going i guess
<@adamwill:fedora.im>
15:09:39
!topic Previous meeting follow-up
<@adamwill:fedora.im>
15:10:24
#info "adamw to work with anaconda team on tracking the minimum requirements to make this viable for f43 validation" - 'this' in context being the fedora ci compose testing of anaconda thing. I've kept in touch with them, I'll try not to forget about this going forward
<@adamwill:fedora.im>
15:10:30
any other followup?
<@kparal:matrix.org>
15:10:48
nothing here
<@lruzicka:matrix.org>
15:10:56
hello
<@lruzicka:matrix.org>
15:11:05
I do not have anything
<@sumantrom:fedora.im>
15:12:02
nothing here as well
<@adamwill:fedora.im>
15:13:07
okeey dokey
<@adamwill:fedora.im>
15:13:14
!topic Fedora 43 status
<@adamwill:fedora.im>
15:13:48
there's a new GTK which has made a lot of openQA tests fail, I started doing the needles for it last week but got distracted, I'd better finish those today
<@bittin:matrix.org>
15:13:51
the workstation Rawhide composes (the nominated ones) have worked to install for me, not had time to test more
<@james:fedora.im>
15:16:33
It's not been brought up at the meetings before, but I'm here to talk about openqa and nftables ... whenever there is some time
<@adamwill:fedora.im>
15:16:53
we have an open floor slot at the end
<@adamwill:fedora.im>
15:19:42
anything else to note on f43?
<@sumantrom:fedora.im>
15:23:03
Unification of boot loader updates, phase 1 --will this be the cause of anything big
<@sumantrom:fedora.im>
15:23:22
they are trying to unify /boot and /boot/efi
<@lruzicka:matrix.org>
15:23:29
I do not have anything.
<@sumantrom:fedora.im>
15:23:47
specifically for windows dual boot on older systems
<@adamwill:fedora.im>
15:25:23
that certainly sounds like the sort of thing that might break stuff, yeah
<@adamwill:fedora.im>
15:25:26
let me look at the details
<@adamwill:fedora.im>
15:27:45
!info https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/BootLoaderUpdatesPhase1
<@adamwill:fedora.im>
15:28:52
yes, this could break lots of stuff. things to test: upgrades of existing systems, updates of f43 systems, netinst installs, live installs, silverblue installs...check for weirdness with /etc/machine-id ... check whether this will break long-established expectations for how people can configure boot stuff (e.g. grubby...)
<@adamwill:fedora.im>
15:29:21
the change says "We will reach out to QA as soon as we have a proof of concept ready for testing", so we should probably be on the lookout for that
<@adamwill:fedora.im>
15:29:45
'testable' deadline is august 12 so there is still some time
<@sumantrom:fedora.im>
15:32:53
yep, I will keep an eye out for that
<@adamwill:fedora.im>
15:34:26
alrighty
<@adamwill:fedora.im>
15:34:35
!topic Test Day / community event status
<@adamwill:fedora.im>
15:34:38
how are we doing, sumantro?
<@sumantrom:fedora.im>
15:36:03
the new testdays app is good.. I have got the basic testing on it and it all works.. i have already posted the call for test days... I will be opening test days tickets soon
<@sumantrom:fedora.im>
15:36:20
we should be ready to push the Test Days app in prod
<@kparal:matrix.org>
15:36:32
please note we'd like to upgrade the testdays app in production very soon
<@sumantrom:fedora.im>
15:36:43
I am however yet to figure out .. how the admin stuff works
<@sumantrom:fedora.im>
15:36:59
Kamil Páral: that's something I needed to know
<@sumantrom:fedora.im>
15:37:14
login in with FAS doesnt give me the admin acess
<@bittin:matrix.org>
15:37:27
saw people in #admin:fedoraproject.org was working on the new test app atm
<@kparal:matrix.org>
15:38:05
Sumantro Mukherjee: I just made you admin on stg
<@sumantrom:fedora.im>
15:38:15
thanks! now it opens
<@sumantrom:fedora.im>
15:38:20
refresh works
<@kparal:matrix.org>
15:38:34
if you spot any issues or have questions, ping me and Lukas Brabec tomorrow, thanks
<@sumantrom:fedora.im>
15:39:39
sure, will give it a fair shake now
<@adamwill:fedora.im>
15:41:22
!info call for Test Days for F43 has been sent out, Sumantro has been experimenting with the new testdays app and it will be ready for deployment soon
<@sumantrom:fedora.im>
15:43:06
as for community events, I am going to do a classroom soon
<@sumantrom:fedora.im>
15:43:11
before flock
<@bittin:matrix.org>
15:43:25
about?
<@sumantrom:fedora.im>
15:44:42
bittin-: classroom is like a onboarding calll
<@bittin:matrix.org>
15:45:05
ah i see
<@adamwill:fedora.im>
15:47:03
!info there will be an onboarding call/classroom before flock
<@adamwill:fedora.im>
15:47:09
alrighty, guess that's the crop
<@adamwill:fedora.im>
15:47:12
!topic Open floor
<@adamwill:fedora.im>
15:47:20
James hi!
<@adamwill:fedora.im>
15:50:52
you had a thing for us?
<@adamwill:fedora.im>
15:55:07
welp, i guess I can talk to him outside of the meeting
<@adamwill:fedora.im>
15:55:12
anyone have anything else?
<@bittin:matrix.org>
15:55:22
not me
<@lruzicka:matrix.org>
15:55:36
pitty, I was wandering what he could tell us.
<@james:fedora.im>
15:55:41
Yeh, I'm here
<@james:fedora.im>
15:56:18
So ... we've rolled out iptables to nftables conversion for more of infra. ... but one of the holdouts was openqa
<@james:fedora.im>
15:56:46
We think it should work ... but there's no staging ... I guess my question is, how do we want to move forward?
<@adamwill:fedora.im>
15:56:57
there is a staging instance, it's just not staging in the way infra thinks of it
<@kparal:matrix.org>
15:57:01
I already covered testdays.stg, nothing more from me
<@adamwill:fedora.im>
15:57:04
i'm fine to try it there
<@james:fedora.im>
15:57:11
We could schedule some downtime, when adam has free time and try to roll it out and see if it works?
<@adamwill:fedora.im>
15:57:18
just didn't want to do it without coordination
<@james:fedora.im>
15:58:00
That's fine ... do you have time to try it this week?
<@adamwill:fedora.im>
15:59:54
sure
<@adamwill:fedora.im>
16:00:15
!action adamw to work with james on switching openqa stg to nftables
<@adamwill:fedora.im>
16:00:30
alright, we're out of time, we can discuss outside of the meeting...can you file an infra ticket or something and tag me?
<@james:fedora.im>
16:00:40
Sure
<@adamwill:fedora.im>
16:00:43
thanks
<@adamwill:fedora.im>
16:00:52
thanks for coming, everyone
<@adamwill:fedora.im>
16:00:54
!endmeeting