2025-05-12 14:59:51 <@adamwill:fedora.im> !startmeeting Quality
2025-05-12 14:59:53 <@meetbot:fedora.im> Meeting started at 2025-05-12 14:59:51 UTC
2025-05-12 14:59:53 <@meetbot:fedora.im> The Meeting name is 'Quality'
2025-05-12 14:59:56 <@adamwill:fedora.im> !topic Roll Call
2025-05-12 15:00:01 <@adamwill:fedora.im> !hi
2025-05-12 15:00:04 <@zodbot:fedora.im> Adam Williamson (adamwill) - he / him / his
2025-05-12 15:00:05 <@adamwill:fedora.im> who's around for quality fun times?
2025-05-12 15:00:06 <@sumantrom:fedora.im> !hi
2025-05-12 15:00:07 <@zodbot:fedora.im> Sumantro Mukherjee (sumantrom) - he / him / his
2025-05-12 15:00:17 <@sumantrom:fedora.im> Adamw, I'm :)))
2025-05-12 15:00:41 <@sumantrom:fedora.im> adamw: how have you been?
2025-05-12 15:02:44 <@sumantrom:fedora.im> Kamil Páral: heyyyyy o/
2025-05-12 15:03:45 <@adamwill:fedora.im> hi hi
2025-05-12 15:03:52 <@adamwill:fedora.im> pretty good Sumantro Mukherjee thanks, hope everything's okay with you
2025-05-12 15:04:22 <@adamwill:fedora.im> my standard heuristic for "how bad are things in India?" includes the rule "if they cancel the cricket, start panicking"
2025-05-12 15:05:00 <@sumantrom:fedora.im> nah mostly flights on the western end got cancelled... there is ceasefire in place... 
2025-05-12 15:05:06 <@adamwill:fedora.im> yeah, i read that
2025-05-12 15:05:13 <@sumantrom:fedora.im> powercuts and internet was down
2025-05-12 15:05:45 <@sumantrom:fedora.im> its summer so we were kind expecting powercuts anyway :))) 
2025-05-12 15:06:00 <@sumantrom:fedora.im> few areas saw blackouts ... 
2025-05-12 15:06:38 <@sumantrom:fedora.im> for me nothing much changes if internet and pwer keeps supporting.. otherwise, we are fine :D 
2025-05-12 15:07:11 <@bittin:matrix.org> !hi
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2025-05-12 15:07:23 <@bittin:matrix.org> !hi bittin
2025-05-12 15:07:24 <@zodbot:fedora.im> Luna Jernberg (bittin) - they / them / theirs
2025-05-12 15:08:19 <@adamwill:fedora.im> hi bittin
2025-05-12 15:09:30 <@adamwill:fedora.im> alrighty, let's get going i guess
2025-05-12 15:09:39 <@adamwill:fedora.im> !topic Previous meeting follow-up
2025-05-12 15:10:24 <@adamwill:fedora.im> #info "adamw to work with anaconda team on tracking the minimum requirements to make this viable for f43 validation" - 'this' in context being the fedora ci compose testing of anaconda thing. I've kept in touch with them, I'll try not to forget about this going forward
2025-05-12 15:10:30 <@adamwill:fedora.im> any other followup?
2025-05-12 15:10:48 <@kparal:matrix.org> nothing here
2025-05-12 15:10:56 <@lruzicka:matrix.org> hello
2025-05-12 15:11:05 <@lruzicka:matrix.org> I do not have anything
2025-05-12 15:12:02 <@sumantrom:fedora.im> nothing here as well
2025-05-12 15:13:07 <@adamwill:fedora.im> okeey dokey
2025-05-12 15:13:14 <@adamwill:fedora.im> !topic Fedora 43 status
2025-05-12 15:13:48 <@adamwill:fedora.im> there's a new GTK which has made a lot of openQA tests fail, I started doing the needles for it last week but got distracted, I'd better finish those today
2025-05-12 15:13:51 <@bittin:matrix.org> the workstation Rawhide composes (the nominated ones) have worked to install for me, not had time to test more
2025-05-12 15:16:33 <@james:fedora.im> It's not been brought up at the meetings before, but I'm here to talk about openqa and nftables ... whenever there is some time
2025-05-12 15:16:53 <@adamwill:fedora.im> we have an open floor slot at the end
2025-05-12 15:19:42 <@adamwill:fedora.im> anything else to note on f43?
2025-05-12 15:23:03 <@sumantrom:fedora.im>  Unification of boot loader updates, phase 1 --will this be the cause of anything big
2025-05-12 15:23:22 <@sumantrom:fedora.im> they are trying to unify /boot and /boot/efi
2025-05-12 15:23:29 <@lruzicka:matrix.org> I do not have anything.
2025-05-12 15:23:47 <@sumantrom:fedora.im> specifically for windows dual boot on older systems 
2025-05-12 15:25:23 <@adamwill:fedora.im> that certainly sounds like the sort of thing that might break stuff, yeah
2025-05-12 15:25:26 <@adamwill:fedora.im> let me look at the details
2025-05-12 15:27:45 <@adamwill:fedora.im> !info https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/BootLoaderUpdatesPhase1
2025-05-12 15:28:52 <@adamwill:fedora.im> yes, this could break lots of stuff. things to test: upgrades of existing systems, updates of f43 systems, netinst installs, live installs, silverblue installs...check for weirdness with /etc/machine-id ... check whether this will break long-established expectations for how people can configure boot stuff (e.g. grubby...)
2025-05-12 15:29:21 <@adamwill:fedora.im> the change says "We will reach out to QA as soon as we have a proof of concept ready for testing", so we should probably be on the lookout for that
2025-05-12 15:29:45 <@adamwill:fedora.im> 'testable' deadline is august 12 so there is still some time
2025-05-12 15:32:53 <@sumantrom:fedora.im> yep, I will keep an eye out for that
2025-05-12 15:34:26 <@adamwill:fedora.im> alrighty
2025-05-12 15:34:35 <@adamwill:fedora.im> !topic Test Day / community event status
2025-05-12 15:34:38 <@adamwill:fedora.im> how are we doing, sumantro?
2025-05-12 15:36:03 <@sumantrom:fedora.im> the new testdays app is good.. I have got the basic testing on it and it all works.. i have already posted the call for test days... I will be opening test days tickets soon
2025-05-12 15:36:20 <@sumantrom:fedora.im> we should be ready to push the Test Days app in prod
2025-05-12 15:36:32 <@kparal:matrix.org> please note we'd like to upgrade the testdays app in production very soon
2025-05-12 15:36:43 <@sumantrom:fedora.im> I am however yet to figure out .. how the admin stuff works
2025-05-12 15:36:59 <@sumantrom:fedora.im> Kamil Páral: that's something I needed to know
2025-05-12 15:37:14 <@sumantrom:fedora.im> login in with FAS doesnt give me the admin acess
2025-05-12 15:37:27 <@bittin:matrix.org> saw people in #admin:fedoraproject.org was working on the new test app atm
2025-05-12 15:38:05 <@kparal:matrix.org> Sumantro Mukherjee: I just made you admin on stg
2025-05-12 15:38:15 <@sumantrom:fedora.im> thanks! now it opens
2025-05-12 15:38:20 <@sumantrom:fedora.im> refresh works 
2025-05-12 15:38:34 <@kparal:matrix.org> if you spot any issues or have questions, ping me and Lukas Brabec tomorrow, thanks
2025-05-12 15:39:39 <@sumantrom:fedora.im> sure, will give it a fair shake now 
2025-05-12 15:41:22 <@adamwill:fedora.im> !info call for Test Days for F43 has been sent out, Sumantro has been experimenting with the new testdays app and it will be ready for deployment soon
2025-05-12 15:43:06 <@sumantrom:fedora.im> as for community events, I am going to do a classroom soon
2025-05-12 15:43:11 <@sumantrom:fedora.im> before flock
2025-05-12 15:43:25 <@bittin:matrix.org> about?
2025-05-12 15:44:42 <@sumantrom:fedora.im> bittin-: classroom is like a onboarding calll
2025-05-12 15:45:05 <@bittin:matrix.org> ah i see
2025-05-12 15:47:03 <@adamwill:fedora.im> !info there will be an onboarding call/classroom before flock
2025-05-12 15:47:09 <@adamwill:fedora.im> alrighty, guess that's the crop
2025-05-12 15:47:12 <@adamwill:fedora.im> !topic Open floor
2025-05-12 15:47:20 <@adamwill:fedora.im> James hi!
2025-05-12 15:50:52 <@adamwill:fedora.im> you had a thing for us?
2025-05-12 15:55:07 <@adamwill:fedora.im> welp, i guess I can talk to him outside of the meeting
2025-05-12 15:55:12 <@adamwill:fedora.im> anyone have anything else?
2025-05-12 15:55:22 <@bittin:matrix.org> not me
2025-05-12 15:55:36 <@lruzicka:matrix.org> pitty, I was wandering what he could tell us.
2025-05-12 15:55:41 <@james:fedora.im> Yeh, I'm here
2025-05-12 15:56:18 <@james:fedora.im> So ... we've rolled out iptables to nftables conversion for more of infra. ... but one of the holdouts was openqa
2025-05-12 15:56:46 <@james:fedora.im> We think it should work ... but there's no staging ... I guess my question is, how do we want to move forward?
2025-05-12 15:56:57 <@adamwill:fedora.im> there is a staging instance, it's just not staging in the way infra thinks of it
2025-05-12 15:57:01 <@kparal:matrix.org> I already covered testdays.stg, nothing more from me
2025-05-12 15:57:04 <@adamwill:fedora.im> i'm fine to try it there
2025-05-12 15:57:11 <@james:fedora.im> We could schedule some downtime, when adam has free time and try to roll it out and see if it works?
2025-05-12 15:57:18 <@adamwill:fedora.im> just didn't want to do it without coordination
2025-05-12 15:58:00 <@james:fedora.im> That's fine ... do you have time to try it this week?
2025-05-12 15:59:54 <@adamwill:fedora.im> sure
2025-05-12 16:00:15 <@adamwill:fedora.im> !action adamw to work with james on switching openqa stg to nftables
2025-05-12 16:00:30 <@adamwill:fedora.im> alright, we're out of time, we can discuss outside of the meeting...can you file an infra ticket or something and tag me?
2025-05-12 16:00:40 <@james:fedora.im> Sure
2025-05-12 16:00:43 <@adamwill:fedora.im> thanks
2025-05-12 16:00:52 <@adamwill:fedora.im> thanks for coming, everyone
2025-05-12 16:00:54 <@adamwill:fedora.im> !endmeeting