17:00:24 <mboddu> #startmeeting RELENG (2018-07-19)
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17:00:24 <mboddu> #meetingname releng
17:00:24 <zodbot> The meeting name has been set to 'releng'
17:00:24 <mboddu> #chair nirik tyll sharkcz masta pbrobinson pingou puiterwijk maxamillion mboddu Kellin dustymabe
17:00:24 <zodbot> Current chairs: Kellin dustymabe masta maxamillion mboddu nirik pbrobinson pingou puiterwijk sharkcz tyll
17:00:25 <mboddu> #topic init process
17:00:39 <nirik> morning
17:00:47 <mboddu> nirik: Morning, how goes?
17:01:01 <nirik> just cleaning up some fallout from mass rebuild. ;)
17:01:17 <mboddu> nirik: Like?
17:01:44 <mboddu> Your personal maintained packages or something related to releng/infra?
17:02:55 <nirik> yeah, things I noticed on my laptop so far: Thunar was updated and xfdesktop needed rebuilding again (well, it needs an upgrade to use the new Thunar, but a rebuild fixes the broken dep)
17:03:16 <nirik> and gnome-shell failed to build due to sassc being broken. fixing sassc now... looks like it had a missing source.
17:03:31 <nirik> and shotwell needed rebuilding for new LibRaw
17:03:35 <smooge> is lurking
17:04:02 <mboddu> nirik: Okay
17:04:10 <mboddu> Okay, lets get started
17:04:18 <mboddu> I have only couple of topics to discuss
17:04:45 <mboddu> #topic #7645 module metadata in releases/28/Modular/$basearch/os/repodata/ has no context or arch
17:04:51 <mboddu> #link https://pagure.io/releng/issue/7645
17:05:32 <nirik> yeah, I saw that
17:05:44 * nirik has questions for them. was going to add to the ticket, but haven't yet
17:06:07 <mboddu> nirik: Okay, but at the same time, we cannot run another F28 compose right?
17:06:14 <nirik> I am not sure we want to rebuild something that was made at GA tho
17:06:18 <nirik> right. we cannot
17:06:53 <nirik> My big question was: does the old dnf understand the new metadata...
17:07:25 <mboddu> nirik: You mean, F29 metadata?
17:08:06 <nirik> sure, if we don't change the f28 as they want... I mean what happens if someone installs a fresh f28 and then uses that dnf to try and work with modules...
17:08:39 <nirik> but I guess we should just say we cant do that and leave it at that.
17:09:00 <nirik> (although we could do some trickery like redirecting it to another place or something perhaps)
17:09:01 <mboddu> I guess so
17:09:27 <mboddu> "Trickery" sounds scary and I am not sure what that means
17:09:38 <mboddu> You mean in MM?
17:09:52 <mboddu> or baseurl redirect itself?
17:09:57 <nirik> yeah, or on the master mirrors...
17:10:21 <nirik> but we would also still need a way to make the new repodata without doing a compose, which I am not at all sure is possible
17:10:54 <mboddu> True, we might have to check with pungi people and probably make a one time compose and run it....
17:11:03 <mboddu> Well, that seems like a lot of work
17:11:33 <mboddu> And seems like they are okay with "* don't use the new depsolving code on F28 and support it from F29"
17:12:04 <nirik> yeah, that seems vastly easier
17:13:00 <mboddu> nirik: So, can you update the ticket and close it?
17:13:39 <mboddu> Or do you want me to?
17:13:39 <nirik> sure.
17:13:43 <nirik> either way
17:13:53 <mboddu> Since you said you were already planning on updating the ticket, so...
17:14:50 <mboddu> nirik: Better you go ahead, probably you will word it better and I might learn something out of it
17:14:52 <mboddu> :)
17:15:22 <nirik> ha. sure, I can try
17:15:31 <mboddu> nirik++
17:15:59 * cverna is around
17:17:22 <mboddu> #info nirik will update the ticket but we cannot rerun the compose and rebuild something that is already GA. We thought of other options like redirecting it to some other place in mirror manager or master mirror, but still we need a way to generate the metadata which we are not sure of.
17:17:27 <mboddu> hi cverna
17:17:35 <cverna> mboddu: o/
17:18:13 <mboddu> #info Since in the ticket they mentioned they can skip it for F28 and include it in F29, we are thinking that might be the best way to go.
17:18:24 <mboddu> Next
17:18:38 <mboddu> #topic FTBFS Updates
17:20:23 <mboddu> nirik: Till added https://pagure.io/releng/c/ccceff2232d8802dc680ecfab558c9a5649ce3f6?branch=master, but now its only attaching 1024 bytes of logs
17:20:33 <mboddu> Do you know whats the limit?
17:21:28 <mboddu> And what should we do with the already filed bugs?
17:21:40 <nirik> hum... yeah, 2^10 is 1024. ;)
17:22:03 <nirik> >>> print 2 ** 10
17:22:03 <nirik> 1024
17:22:35 <mboddu> And, currently the script failed while processing https://koji.fedoraproject.org/koji/taskinfo?taskID=28171629 with missing logs, so I fixed the script to exception handle them, so waiting on how to proceed further
17:23:00 <mboddu> I shouldn't say missing logs, for some reason the build itself didn't put any logs
17:23:18 <mboddu> Probably a bug in koji, I am not sure
17:23:24 <nirik> well, I would up the limit. whats an example of one with 1024?
17:24:11 <mboddu> nirik: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1603242
17:24:15 <nirik> could just resubmit that one?
17:25:11 <nirik> I guess I would say up the limit and continue from where it left off.
17:25:34 <nirik> people can always look at koji or do another build.
17:25:36 <mboddu> Okay
17:25:52 <mboddu> And, do you want me to resubmit that task?
17:25:57 <mboddu> with missing logs
17:26:03 <nirik> and 1024 there was enough to tell it was the BR: gcc issue. ;)
17:26:21 <mboddu> Yeah, I was worried about that too
17:26:25 <nirik> yeah, it should work now, it looks like it hit some time when the s390x cache was not working
17:26:26 <mboddu> But it was part of it
17:26:31 <mboddu> Okay
17:27:33 <mboddu> And, how much should I increase the limit to?
17:28:53 <nirik> dunno.. how about 16k... 2 ** 14
17:28:55 <nirik> ?
17:29:01 <nirik> or is that still too small...
17:29:17 <mboddu> Probably 4096 - 2**12?
17:29:37 <mboddu> Okay, lets go with 2 ** 15
17:29:45 <mboddu> thats 32k
17:29:50 <nirik> ok
17:31:55 <mboddu> Okay
17:32:04 <mboddu> Thats all I have, going to open floor
17:32:15 <mboddu> #topic Open Floor
17:32:20 <mboddu> Anybody got anything?
17:32:53 <mboddu> I will be on PTO for the first week of Aug
17:33:06 <mboddu> before FLOCK
17:33:22 <mboddu> cverna: ^ lets go together to FLOCK from Wroclaw
17:33:43 <mboddu> cverna: I still haven't got that train ticket yet :(
17:33:47 * nirik will be at flock
17:33:56 <cverna> mboddu: yeah I got my ticket to Wroclaw I ll arrive the the 7th in the morning
17:34:23 <nirik> pdx->ams->dresden on the way out, then train from dresden -> ams then plane ams->pdx.
17:34:30 <mboddu> cverna: Okay, lets catch the train together, I will ping you my contact number later
17:34:48 <cverna> nirik: sounds like a long journey
17:34:54 <cverna> mboddu: did the f27 container release completed ?
17:35:01 <nirik> yep... but thats the way it is. :)
17:35:15 <mboddu> cverna: Yup, and I asked you about running F28 or not, but I guess it was too late in your time
17:35:39 <cverna> mboddu: oh great yes I missed that, we can run f28 :) thanks
17:35:46 <mboddu> nirik: How long is the train from Dresden to Amsterdam? 8 hrs?
17:35:56 <mboddu> cverna: Cool, I will run it now
17:35:59 <nirik> yeah, something like that...
17:36:14 <Kellin> you all enjoy FLOCK, wish I could join you
17:36:30 <nirik> we will miss you Kellin. :(
17:36:33 <mboddu> nirik: Wow, at least its train, so you can relax
17:36:38 <nirik> lots of folks not making it this time....
17:36:41 <Kellin> I'll be at the US one next year
17:36:43 <mboddu> Kellin: You will be missed :(
17:36:51 <mboddu> Kellin: Yay
17:37:23 <cverna> mboddu: we have started to discuss container updates in bodhi with Randy
17:37:44 <cverna> mboddu: but we want you to be involved so you can give some feedback
17:37:56 <cverna> I opened https://pagure.io/releng/issue/7641
17:38:14 <mboddu> cverna: Sure, I think I already talked to Randy about it, but its been a while
17:38:15 <cverna> But I think we need to clarify which koji tags we will want
17:38:25 <mboddu> Cool
17:39:04 <mboddu> We can talk
17:40:13 <cverna> both randy and I are on PTO tomorrow, so we could schedule something next week :)
17:40:23 <cverna> mboddu: I ll send an email about it
17:40:35 <mboddu> cverna: Sure
17:40:37 <mboddu> cverna: +1
17:40:51 <cverna> it would be nice to have container updates for f29 :)
17:42:19 <mboddu> cverna: Yup and I dont have to run any releases, thats another +1 for me :D
17:42:37 <cverna> mboddu++ :)
17:43:12 <mboddu> Okay, anything else guys?
17:43:55 <cverna> that was all from me
17:44:03 <nirik> oh, one short note:
17:44:39 <nirik> I was going to post on devel about the rawhide vs 29 naming stuff... but then I re-read all the tickets and wanted to ask some more questions, so continuing in that ticket.
17:45:16 <mboddu> nirik: Okay
17:45:25 <nirik> hopefully we can reach some consensus and then take that to devel
17:46:24 <mboddu> #info nirik was going through rawhide vs 29 naming and wanted to ask some more questions in that ticket.
17:46:30 <mboddu> I have one more note
17:47:01 <mboddu> nirik: We lost kirin on #fedora-releng, instead we got nirik-, not sure who is better? :P
17:47:29 <nirik> ha. will check, probibly just needs restarting (kirin is my phone BTW)
17:48:00 <mboddu> nirik: Okay, I know kirin is also belongs to you, not sure that its on your mobile
17:48:18 <mboddu> Anyway, thats all I got
17:48:25 <mboddu> Thanks guys for joining
17:48:37 * mboddu will get back to FTBFS
17:48:45 <mboddu> #endmeeting