15:01:04 <mboddu> #startmeeting RELENG (2020-05-26)
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15:01:04 <mboddu> #meetingname releng
15:01:04 <zodbot> The meeting name has been set to 'releng'
15:01:04 <mboddu> #chair nirik sharkcz pbrobinson pingou mboddu dustymabe ksinny jednorozec
15:01:04 <zodbot> Current chairs: dustymabe jednorozec ksinny mboddu nirik pbrobinson pingou sharkcz
15:01:04 <mboddu> #topic init process
15:01:13 <pingou> ó/
15:01:27 <mboddu> I should rename this channel to #fedora-releng-meeting :D
15:01:40 <nirik> morning.
15:01:50 * nirik is somewhat here, but also busy with the new datacenter stuff
15:01:53 <mboddu> morning pingou and nirik again :)
15:02:11 * mboddu also might cut this meeting short, but we will see
15:02:29 * sharkcz is here
15:03:03 <mboddu> Since pingou is here
15:03:07 <mboddu> #topic #9467 Testing compose from a side tag, possible?
15:03:14 <mboddu> #link https://pagure.io/releng/issue/9467
15:03:45 <mboddu> pingou: So, these side tags are created from main buildroot tags, right?
15:04:11 <pingou> I supose so
15:04:29 <pingou> otherwise we wouldn't have the newRepo task issue :)
15:04:35 <mboddu> Yes :)
15:05:15 <mboddu> I guess we cannot run the composes from buildroot tags and IIRC from my convo with Dennis Gilmore when I joined, it will compose with buildroot stuff in it
15:05:55 <pingou> what's preventing this?
15:06:13 <pingou> would odcs help?
15:06:16 <mboddu> ^ this is from recollecting from a conversation I had while working from his basement, so I dont remember the exact reasons
15:06:27 <pingou> arf :(
15:06:54 <nirik> we could probibly make it work... but I don't have any time to devote right now.
15:07:09 <mboddu> pingou: We can use odcs, but as far as I remember, there are some reasons why we cannot run composes out of buildroot tags
15:07:35 <mboddu> nirik: Is there any reason why we cannot run composes from buildroot tags?
15:07:46 <mboddu> That you can remember
15:08:33 <mboddu> I can do the work, but can we do it or not is my question.
15:08:37 <nirik> well, this is a side tag right?
15:08:42 <pingou> yes
15:08:59 <nirik> so the things built in it are tagged there...
15:09:10 <mboddu> nirik: yes, but it is also a buildroot tag
15:09:11 <nirik> so couldn't we do a pungi run with f33 + f33-side-whatever ?
15:09:30 <nirik> well, inheritence might blow up if we can't do -no-inherit
15:09:48 <nirik> I'm not sure how pungi will see it there.
15:10:09 <mboddu> We can just do f33-side-whatever with inheritance set to true in pungi configs
15:10:26 <mboddu> I guess it should work
15:11:31 <mboddu> If its do-able, my next question is, self serviceable and how can we achieve it?
15:12:02 <mboddu> We can leave it in the hands of maintainers, but they can run it whenever they wish, which might be bad
15:12:24 <pingou> mboddu: considering the colo move, let's do baby step
15:12:38 <nirik> I definitely don't think we should worry about self service here
15:12:39 <pingou> fix this one request, and potentially table the long term solution for this for later
15:12:40 <nirik> right now
15:12:44 <nirik> +1
15:12:44 <mboddu> pingou: Agreed, its going to be post colo move
15:13:06 <pingou> mboddu: could be a good idea to discuss this with Aoife as a pitch for an initiative
15:13:13 <nirik> also, adamw said he was going to do something with openqa, so we should try not and duplicate efforts here.
15:13:33 <pingou> didn't he say openqa works on composes ?
15:14:06 <nirik> yes, but he got tired of waiting for releng to make on demand/test composes, so he implemented it himself in openqa...
15:14:16 <nirik> updates testing does that for example.
15:14:43 <pingou> ok
15:15:46 <nirik> anyhow, if we can easily do a test compose I'm all for it.
15:16:06 <nirik> just another rawhide with that tag added on the side.
15:16:24 <pingou> another tag on the side? :)
15:16:29 <pingou> and some salad maybe?
15:16:36 * pingou stops derailing
15:18:38 <nirik> the side tag on the side.
15:18:40 <nirik> :)
15:44:35 <mboddu> I am back
15:44:37 <mboddu> No idea what happened
15:45:00 <pingou> it happens :)
15:46:27 <mboddu> So, we will try it with the python39 side tag and we will see if anyone else needs it and doing a self service if needed and check with adamw before replicating the work
15:46:36 <mboddu> nirik, pingou : ^ is that okay?
15:47:44 <pingou> +1
15:48:09 <mboddu> Okay
15:48:47 <nirik> sure.
15:50:12 <mboddu> #info we will try running the compose with the python39 side tag and we will see if anyone else needs it and doing a self service if needed and check with adamw before replicating the work
15:50:19 * mboddu updated the ticket
15:50:55 <mboddu> #topic Open Floor
15:51:22 <mboddu> Sorry for my laptop issues, with the time we got, I had to jump to open floor
15:52:37 <nirik> no worries, it happens
15:53:02 <mboddu> pingou: I got a question on https://pagure.io/fedora-infra/ansible/pull-request/73#c-8478226057f4f388675184534448910b77fe7829-31
15:53:28 <pingou> shoot
15:53:30 <mboddu> Is it just running uuid on the box and adding to private repo and adding it to the ansible?
15:54:03 <mboddu> adding uuid to private repo and adding that variable to ansible role?*
15:54:03 <pingou> mboddu: nah
15:54:15 <mboddu> Okay....
15:54:36 * pingou looks for an example
15:54:37 <mboddu> I couldn't find any docs on it
15:54:50 <mboddu> Thanks pingou
15:54:51 <pingou> you're only listening or also publishing?
15:55:30 <pingou> mboddu: this is the doc: https://fedora-infra-docs.readthedocs.io/en/latest/dev-guide/messaging.html
15:55:46 <mboddu> pingou: Just listening
15:56:08 <pingou> so you need to create an user and a queue
15:56:20 <pingou> both of which can be done via roles in the playbook
15:56:35 <mboddu> Okay
15:56:58 <pingou> https://pagure.io/fedora-infra/ansible/blob/master/f/playbooks/openshift-apps/bodhi.yml#_31-39
15:57:02 <mboddu> I will go through the docs and if I need anything I will ping pingou :D
15:57:18 <pingou> in this case they've put the queue_name in a variable but that's up to you
15:58:23 <mboddu> pingou: I was looking at https://pagure.io/fedora-infra/ansible/blob/master/f/roles/bodhi2/base/templates/fedora-messaging.toml.j2#_33
15:58:35 <pingou> mboddu: and now you have one more comment :)
15:59:08 <pingou> yeah, they've used a variable (not in the private repo btw)
15:59:13 <mboddu> pingou: I know I shouldn't have asked you :P
15:59:27 <mboddu> Thanks pingou
15:59:36 <mboddu> Thats all I got
15:59:43 <pingou> mboddu: check the backcave playbook
15:59:43 <mboddu> Oh btw, today is F30 EOL
15:59:49 <mboddu> pingou: Sure
15:59:49 <pingou> since it also just consumes
16:00:11 <pingou> (but it covers 3 different hosts using 3 different queues)
16:00:14 <pingou> RIP F30
16:01:16 <mboddu> pingou: Okay, thanks for the info
16:01:27 <mboddu> Thanks guys for joining
16:01:40 <mboddu> And sorry for my laptop issues
16:02:11 <mboddu> We went past time, so closing the meeting and we can continue in #fedora-releng if I missed anything
16:02:14 <sharkcz> np, it was a bit strange, because you didn't leave IRC :-)
16:02:14 <mboddu> #endmeeting