16:00:05 <jednorozec> #startmeeting RELENG (2022-01-18)
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16:00:05 <jednorozec> #meetingname releng
16:00:05 <jednorozec> #chair nirik sharkcz pbrobinson pingou pmoura mboddu dustymabe ksinny jednorozec
16:00:05 <jednorozec> #topic init process
16:00:05 <zodbot> The meeting name has been set to 'releng'
16:00:05 <zodbot> Current chairs: dustymabe jednorozec ksinny mboddu nirik pbrobinson pingou pmoura sharkcz
16:00:47 <nirik> morning
16:00:53 <pmoura> hello
16:01:22 <jednorozec> morning nirik pmoura
16:01:46 <dustymabe> .hi
16:01:47 <zodbot> dustymabe: dustymabe 'Dusty Mabe' <dusty@dustymabe.com>
16:03:01 <jednorozec> so, tomorrow is the mass rebuild
16:03:04 <jednorozec> .releng 10538
16:03:05 <zodbot> jednorozec: Issue #10538: Fedora 36 Mass Rebuild - releng - Pagure.io - https://pagure.io/releng/issue/10538
16:03:13 <nirik> oh, I thought it was today.
16:03:44 <jednorozec> https://fedorapeople.org/groups/schedule/f-36/f-36-key-tasks.html
16:03:45 <nirik> but I guess not. cool.
16:03:48 <jednorozec> says tomorrow
16:04:10 <nirik> so, builders should be ready, hopefully armv7 ones will be stabler this time.
16:04:13 <jednorozec> pmoura, do you want to stick around to see what and how it is done to rebuild fedora?
16:04:26 <nirik> I did get more disk for s390x, and if I have time today I will make more builders.
16:04:31 <pmoura> jednorozec sure
16:04:45 <nirik> but need to figure out it's multipath and weird setup
16:05:48 <jednorozec> pmoura, is 15:00 UTC to early for you?
16:06:37 <jednorozec> nirik, so this somehow slipped my list, https://pagure.io/releng/issue/10515
16:06:38 <pmoura> jednorozec No its fine
16:06:53 <jednorozec> pmoura, I will create meeting and send invite
16:07:05 <pmoura> ok, thanks
16:07:09 <nirik> yeah, I know gcc12 is in now... not sure about the rest
16:07:14 <jednorozec> so
16:07:47 <jednorozec> Do I understand the request correctly that they requested toolchain rebuild before the mass rebuild?
16:10:36 <nirik> not clear...
16:10:52 <nirik> I thought they just meant doing a mass rebuild _for_ the toolchain changes
16:11:08 <jednorozec> well that was my first understanding
16:11:33 <nirik> I guess ask in ticket?
16:11:46 <jednorozec> but yesterday i got through the list of changes and read it again...
16:11:50 <jednorozec> Yeah
16:12:09 <jednorozec> worst case scenario we will run another rebuild.
16:12:30 <nirik> I hope not. ;)
16:13:44 <jednorozec> also there is a comment from vondruch about ruby
16:13:49 <jednorozec> on the tracker issue
16:14:15 <jednorozec> looking at the rebuild script I can simply sort it in a way that ruby will be build first https://pagure.io/releng/blob/main/f/scripts/mass-rebuild.py#_97
16:14:50 <nirik> well, or he can rebuild ruby right before, we can wait for it to land, then run?
16:15:32 <nirik> note that mass rebuild does not update the build root...
16:16:00 <jednorozec> well he said 2-10 days
16:16:07 <nirik> let me see if he's around...
16:17:29 <nirik> it's unclear to me if he just needs ruby rebuilt, then everything depending on it, or if there's more going on.
16:18:50 <jednorozec> from yesterday <vondruch> jednorozec: that would be nice, that would save some rebuild, although it would certainly need more than one roud due to dependency loop
16:19:29 <nirik> hum, ok. In the past we have always tried to get these things done before mass rebuild, but oh well.
16:20:36 <nirik> I guess ask in ticket? he doesn't seem to be on irc right now.
16:21:35 <vondruch> Hi there
16:21:40 <jednorozec> howdy vondruch
16:21:42 <nirik> hey.
16:22:02 <nirik> so whats our best bet with ruby here? :)
16:22:31 <nirik> you could rebuild it in rawhide and then it will get used by the mass rebuild... but that doesn't help if there's more loops, etc...
16:23:27 <vondruch> There is 100+ packages
16:23:32 <vondruch> which would get broken
16:23:44 <vondruch> So we would prefer to use side tag
16:23:47 <vondruch> https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/ruby-sig@lists.fedoraproject.org/message/UFA2YI5EG4W5NUJBEXNR6CJFUTYQO4RZ/
16:23:48 <nirik> we could just wait until after mass rebuild and do it in a side tag... yeah
16:24:10 <vondruch> These ^^ are the last ruby-sig thoughts
16:24:25 <vondruch> nirik: and yes, that is essentially the same proposal
16:24:43 <vondruch> If the Fedora mass rebuild has a chance to be done in a week
16:24:55 <nirik> I sure hope so. ;)
16:24:56 <vondruch> then it would be the preferred option
16:25:29 <jednorozec> unless something goes on horrible fire it should be done in a week
16:25:39 <vondruch> But I guess it will be better if we wait for the Fedora then to block Fedora, so to say ;)
16:26:09 <nirik> we could also do a named side tag and have releng merge it... but I guess bodhi can handle 100ish builds now
16:26:22 <jednorozec> so the mass rebuild goes on tmrw
16:27:16 <jednorozec> thanks vondruch
16:27:39 <vondruch> YAW, thx for considering the Ruby rebuild
16:27:55 <nirik> thanks for bringing it up.
16:28:03 <vondruch> 👍️
16:28:33 <pvalena> vondruch: worst-case scenario we'll not make it in time, and simply build for both F36 and F37, right? If we focus on one F37 f.e., I can mirror all builds by some automation (I have most of the required scripts ready)
16:29:33 <jednorozec> so
16:29:36 <jednorozec> moving on
16:29:38 <jednorozec> .releng 10540
16:29:39 <zodbot> jednorozec: Issue #10540: Build of GPRbuild is stuck on four arches. - releng - Pagure.io - https://pagure.io/releng/issue/10540
16:29:58 <jednorozec> hmm this might impact mass rebuild
16:29:59 <nirik> I think this can be closed now... it's a gcc bug
16:30:28 <jednorozec> ah
16:30:43 <nirik> except the bug link seems invalid
16:30:53 <jednorozec> there is 3D
16:31:01 <jednorozec> at the beginning of bugid
16:31:25 <nirik> ha
16:31:28 <jednorozec> I have eddited the comment
16:31:54 <nirik> so, yeah, we should get a ack from gcc folks that they are ready...
16:32:05 <nirik> hopefully this won't affect too much or they will have a fix.
16:33:39 <jednorozec> so link into the mass rebuild tracker issue and ping some one?
16:34:39 <nirik> well, I guess ping on the tracker and cc @jakub and ask if it's go before the mass rebuild. I think there's an internal rh channel where they hang out too..
16:36:11 <nirik> it's just nice to get an ack that things are ready and there's no show stoppers before we start the mass rebuild
16:36:41 <jednorozec> right
16:37:48 <jednorozec> next one
16:37:51 <jednorozec> .releng 10544
16:37:52 <zodbot> jednorozec: Issue #10544: F36 Self Contained Change: Authselect: Move State Files to /etc - releng - Pagure.io - https://pagure.io/releng/issue/10544
16:37:59 <jednorozec> that is no-releng chnge
16:38:04 <nirik> +1
16:41:20 <jednorozec> .releng 10513
16:41:21 <zodbot> jednorozec: Issue #10513: Disk images have significantly increased in size with Fedora 35 - releng - Pagure.io - https://pagure.io/releng/issue/10513
16:41:36 <nirik> still folks investigating.
16:42:37 <jednorozec> yeah there is an update
16:46:47 <nirik> not sure what to think... needs someone finding the exact layer I guess.
16:48:06 <jednorozec> moving on
16:48:10 <jednorozec> .releng 10543
16:48:11 <zodbot> jednorozec: Issue #10543: Request to add packager rights to a service account - releng - Pagure.io - https://pagure.io/releng/issue/10543
16:48:21 <jednorozec> do we give packager permissions to bots?
16:48:39 <nirik> we can, but... they can do PRs with https...
16:48:46 <jednorozec> right
16:48:50 <nirik> if thats all they need. I can add to the ticket
16:49:02 <jednorozec> please do so
16:49:49 <nirik> done
16:50:30 <jednorozec> we have last 10 minutes for open floor
16:50:31 <jednorozec> #topic Open Floor
16:50:54 * nirik has another meeting in 10min, has to get coffee. ;)
16:50:59 <nirik> nothing from me off hand.
16:52:36 <pmoura> nirik: I just opened the PR for the SOP builders
16:54:15 <pmoura> I have same questions to keep doing it
16:56:27 <nirik> ah ha, cool. I can take a look if/when I ever get out of meetings. ;)
16:56:34 <nirik> thanks for working on it
16:57:11 <pmoura> ok thanks
17:01:20 <jednorozec> #endmeeting