16:01:48 <jednorozec> #startmeeting RELENG (2023-10-03)
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16:01:49 <jednorozec> #meetingname releng
16:01:49 <zodbot> The meeting name has been set to 'releng'
16:01:49 <jednorozec> #chair nirik sharkcz pbrobinson phsmoura dustymabe jednorozec
16:01:49 <zodbot> Current chairs: dustymabe jednorozec nirik pbrobinson phsmoura sharkcz
16:01:49 <jednorozec> #topic init process
16:02:01 * nirik waves
16:02:57 <samyak> 0/
16:03:10 * jednorozec furiously searches for notes
16:04:29 <jednorozec> forever lost in the cement&lime dust
16:05:16 <nirik> as with so many things.
16:05:21 * samyak sneezes :P
16:05:53 <jednorozec> so
16:05:59 <jednorozec> there are some things
16:06:11 <jednorozec> #topic Fedora 39 is now in final freeze
16:06:54 <jednorozec> stable push and changes done by samyak
16:07:05 <nirik> +1 great!
16:07:42 <jednorozec> and is ot goes some typos in docs.
16:08:10 <nirik> note that infra is not yet frozen. I need to get a bodhi server update in to handle f39 flatpaks...
16:08:16 <jednorozec> but we are getting there. WIth this release we will have all the releng tasks ported to the new thing
16:08:26 <nirik> hurray!
16:08:28 <jednorozec> yep I noticed the PR
16:09:38 <jednorozec> oh and I think we might want to put the mail templates there. Its using templating engine so there should be less copy/paste/sed problems...
16:11:00 <nirik> there? oh, in docs site?
16:11:04 <jednorozec> yep
16:11:10 <samyak> yes
16:11:10 <nirik> yeah, great idea.
16:11:13 <jednorozec> now we link to the repo with template
16:11:45 <samyak> I can take on that and will do it as i update the processes typos
16:11:53 <jednorozec> +1
16:11:56 <nirik> sounds great.
16:12:20 <jednorozec> so next topic
16:12:25 <jednorozec> I dont have my notes but
16:12:29 <jednorozec> #topic PDC&Modularity retirement impact
16:12:30 <samyak> >  I need to get a bodhi server update in to handle f39 flatpaks...
16:12:31 <samyak> can you link me the pr as well, curious what's need to be done there
16:12:52 <samyak> ah `>` doesn't interpret as replies in irc
16:13:47 <nirik> https://github.com/fedora-infra/bodhi/pull/5496 and another one...
16:14:08 <jednorozec> and I thibnk this ticket https://pagure.io/releng/issue/11697
16:14:45 <samyak> thanks for the links will check these out, back to topic :D
16:14:57 <jednorozec> yeah
16:14:58 <jednorozec> so
16:15:51 <jednorozec> there was interesting point to the PDC discussion from zbyzsek is his hand I thing
16:15:56 <jednorozec> *think
16:16:27 <jednorozec> once we have retired modularity , concept of EOL for RPM branches does not make much sense
16:16:49 <nirik> yeah... and flatpaks are more limited also
16:16:59 <jednorozec> since we always maintain current releases and retire on rawhide/branched
16:17:21 <jednorozec> this means we can simplify a LOT of scripts
16:17:55 <jednorozec> is there anything like flatpak filecycle page as we have for rpms in fedora?
16:18:22 <jednorozec> hum actually its build fro mrpms
16:18:43 <nirik> yeah, but there's only one active set at a time... and it changes near release.
16:18:57 <nirik> ie, they are f38 based now, and moving to f39 based nowish
16:19:34 <jednorozec> ohh that is even better
16:21:01 <nirik> yep
16:21:41 <jednorozec> Simplifying workflows by removing applications, that is engineering!
16:22:51 <jednorozec> Ok, without the notes I dont really have much more.
16:23:15 <nirik> I had one note:
16:24:00 <nirik> I will be on PTO the 18th->23rd (back on the 24th). So, if we hit early release, right after that...
16:25:22 <jednorozec> enjoy your time off!
16:25:50 <nirik> will try. ;)
16:26:11 <jednorozec> dont take matrix client with you
16:26:15 <jednorozec> we will manage :)
16:27:05 <jednorozec> oh
16:27:08 <jednorozec> this landed today
16:27:11 <samyak> ha
16:27:13 <jednorozec> .releng 11702
16:27:14 <zodbot> jednorozec: Issue #11702: Define "JSON" archive type in prod and stg Koji instances - releng - Pagure.io - https://pagure.io/releng/issue/11702
16:28:01 <nirik> ok. I'm not sure whats involved, but if it's just config change it should be no problem
16:30:20 <jednorozec> this is the only koji docs there is? https://docs.pagure.org/koji/
16:30:30 <jednorozec> its always a pain to find something :/
16:30:42 <jednorozec> even when koji is not that complex project
16:33:01 <nirik> yeah, I grep thru the source often times.
16:33:02 <nirik> :)
16:33:14 <jednorozec> hmmm
16:33:34 <jednorozec> I always tried to search box but it returns release notes mostly..
16:34:29 <jednorozec> I have question about this one
16:34:33 <jednorozec> .releng 11083
16:34:34 <zodbot> jednorozec: Issue #11083: log4j contains files with unacceptable licenses - releng - Pagure.io - https://pagure.io/releng/issue/11083
16:34:43 <jednorozec> how do I remove file from lookaside safely?
16:35:08 <nirik> just rm it on pkgs01...
16:35:15 <jednorozec> ok
16:38:14 <jednorozec> checking on some old tickets
16:38:18 <jednorozec> .releng 10369
16:38:19 <zodbot> jednorozec: Issue #10369: Q: Why do we install epel-release and fedpkg-minimal into every buildroot in Koji? - releng - Pagure.io - https://pagure.io/releng/issue/10369
16:38:40 <jednorozec> my comment is last but i dont remember doing it
16:38:55 <nirik> yeah, I don't think we ever tested it.
16:42:04 <jednorozec> is this in kojihub od builders in ansible?
16:43:30 <nirik> its in koji...
16:45:11 <nirik> I'm not sure this is true anymore... ie, it might have been fixed?
16:45:53 <nirik> well, fedpkg-minimal is still there on f40-build
16:46:29 <nirik> koji list-groups f40-build
16:47:46 <jednorozec> wel but that is correct
16:47:51 <jednorozec> its in srpm build
16:47:54 <jednorozec> not in build
16:48:34 <jednorozec> in both in epel9
16:48:55 <jednorozec> same for 8
16:49:01 <nirik> so yeah, more looking to see what the current state is I guess
16:49:19 <nirik> we do want epel-release for epel
16:49:51 <jednorozec> ok so I will just remove it from build group in koji and try build pkg in staging
16:50:33 <nirik> sure, testing in stg is good.
16:51:50 <jednorozec> should I just flip the switch in prod and watch?
16:52:04 <jednorozec> its configured like that for fedora...
16:52:52 <nirik> I'd confirm theres no weirdness first, but sure...
16:53:26 <nirik> fedpkg-monimal is needed for epel7 I am pretty sure
16:53:32 <nirik> minimal
16:54:40 <jednorozec> huh, I just noticed its already dark outside
16:55:34 <nirik> not here. ;)
16:56:25 <jednorozec> enjoy the day :)
16:56:40 <jednorozec> If there is nothing more I will close the meeting shortly.
16:57:09 <nirik> +1
16:59:18 <jednorozec> Thanks for your attention.
16:59:22 <jednorozec> #endmeeting