16:01:48 #startmeeting RELENG (2023-10-03) 16:01:48 Meeting started Tue Oct 3 16:01:48 2023 UTC. 16:01:48 This meeting is logged and archived in a public location. 16:01:48 The chair is jednorozec. 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I need to get a bodhi server update in to handle f39 flatpaks... 16:08:16 but we are getting there. WIth this release we will have all the releng tasks ported to the new thing 16:08:26 hurray! 16:08:28 yep I noticed the PR 16:09:38 oh and I think we might want to put the mail templates there. Its using templating engine so there should be less copy/paste/sed problems... 16:11:00 there? oh, in docs site? 16:11:04 yep 16:11:10 yes 16:11:10 yeah, great idea. 16:11:13 now we link to the repo with template 16:11:45 I can take on that and will do it as i update the processes typos 16:11:53 +1 16:11:56 sounds great. 16:12:20 so next topic 16:12:25 I dont have my notes but 16:12:29 #topic PDC&Modularity retirement impact 16:12:30 > I need to get a bodhi server update in to handle f39 flatpaks... 16:12:31 can you link me the pr as well, curious what's need to be done there 16:12:52 ah `>` doesn't interpret as replies in irc 16:13:47 https://github.com/fedora-infra/bodhi/pull/5496 and another one... 16:14:08 and I thibnk this ticket https://pagure.io/releng/issue/11697 16:14:45 thanks for the links will check these out, back to topic :D 16:14:57 yeah 16:14:58 so 16:15:51 there was interesting point to the PDC discussion from zbyzsek is his hand I thing 16:15:56 *think 16:16:27 once we have retired modularity , concept of EOL for RPM branches does not make much sense 16:16:49 yeah... and flatpaks are more limited also 16:16:59 since we always maintain current releases and retire on rawhide/branched 16:17:21 this means we can simplify a LOT of scripts 16:17:55 is there anything like flatpak filecycle page as we have for rpms in fedora? 16:18:22 hum actually its build fro mrpms 16:18:43 yeah, but there's only one active set at a time... and it changes near release. 16:18:57 ie, they are f38 based now, and moving to f39 based nowish 16:19:34 ohh that is even better 16:21:01 yep 16:21:41 Simplifying workflows by removing applications, that is engineering! 16:22:51 Ok, without the notes I dont really have much more. 16:23:15 I had one note: 16:24:00 I will be on PTO the 18th->23rd (back on the 24th). So, if we hit early release, right after that... 16:25:22 enjoy your time off! 16:25:50 will try. ;) 16:26:11 dont take matrix client with you 16:26:15 we will manage :) 16:27:05 oh 16:27:08 this landed today 16:27:11 ha 16:27:13 .releng 11702 16:27:14 jednorozec: Issue #11702: Define "JSON" archive type in prod and stg Koji instances - releng - Pagure.io - https://pagure.io/releng/issue/11702 16:28:01 ok. I'm not sure whats involved, but if it's just config change it should be no problem 16:30:20 this is the only koji docs there is? https://docs.pagure.org/koji/ 16:30:30 its always a pain to find something :/ 16:30:42 even when koji is not that complex project 16:33:01 yeah, I grep thru the source often times. 16:33:02 :) 16:33:14 hmmm 16:33:34 I always tried to search box but it returns release notes mostly.. 16:34:29 I have question about this one 16:34:33 .releng 11083 16:34:34 jednorozec: Issue #11083: log4j contains files with unacceptable licenses - releng - Pagure.io - https://pagure.io/releng/issue/11083 16:34:43 how do I remove file from lookaside safely? 16:35:08 just rm it on pkgs01... 16:35:15 ok 16:38:14 checking on some old tickets 16:38:18 .releng 10369 16:38:19 jednorozec: Issue #10369: Q: Why do we install epel-release and fedpkg-minimal into every buildroot in Koji? - releng - Pagure.io - https://pagure.io/releng/issue/10369 16:38:40 my comment is last but i dont remember doing it 16:38:55 yeah, I don't think we ever tested it. 16:42:04 is this in kojihub od builders in ansible? 16:43:30 its in koji... 16:45:11 I'm not sure this is true anymore... ie, it might have been fixed? 16:45:53 well, fedpkg-minimal is still there on f40-build 16:46:29 koji list-groups f40-build 16:47:46 wel but that is correct 16:47:51 its in srpm build 16:47:54 not in build 16:48:34 in both in epel9 16:48:55 same for 8 16:49:01 so yeah, more looking to see what the current state is I guess 16:49:19 we do want epel-release for epel 16:49:51 ok so I will just remove it from build group in koji and try build pkg in staging 16:50:33 sure, testing in stg is good. 16:51:50 should I just flip the switch in prod and watch? 16:52:04 its configured like that for fedora... 16:52:52 I'd confirm theres no weirdness first, but sure... 16:53:26 fedpkg-monimal is needed for epel7 I am pretty sure 16:53:32 minimal 16:54:40 huh, I just noticed its already dark outside 16:55:34 not here. ;) 16:56:25 enjoy the day :) 16:56:40 If there is nothing more I will close the meeting shortly. 16:57:09 +1 16:59:18 Thanks for your attention. 16:59:22 #endmeeting