16:00:07 <jednorozec> #startmeeting RELENG (2023-10-31)
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16:00:07 <jednorozec> #meetingname releng
16:00:07 <zodbot> The meeting name has been set to 'releng'
16:00:07 <jednorozec> #chair nirik sharkcz pbrobinson phsmoura dustymabe jednorozec
16:00:07 <zodbot> Current chairs: dustymabe jednorozec nirik pbrobinson phsmoura sharkcz
16:00:08 <jednorozec> #topic init process
16:00:22 <nirik> morning.
16:01:28 <jednorozec> mornig
16:02:18 <jednorozec> DST time hell and PTO's I think it will be only the two of us today
16:03:03 <nirik> yeah, I hate DST change. :(
16:03:45 <jednorozec> yeah
16:05:15 <jednorozec> #topic Fedora 39 release cycle
16:05:25 <jednorozec> so rc 1.4 is out, thnaks nirik
16:05:40 <jednorozec> I think you did all the RCs for this final
16:05:47 <nirik> yeah, sorry for hogging all the composing. :( Just works out that way due to timezones.
16:06:09 <nirik> there's some failed artifacts in 1.4... but not sure it's gonna block it
16:06:27 <nirik> a few of the ostree installers ran out of space, and some weird arm dbus bug. ;(
16:06:40 <jednorozec> hopefully all the blocker that are not waived are addressed
16:07:31 <jednorozec> we can still manage to make 1.5
16:07:38 <nirik> There's one weird arm/lvm thing that I know of... but unclear how blockery it is to me right now
16:08:07 <nirik> I wonder if we might want to bump space on those ostrees and do 1.5... can suggest it to adamw...
16:08:44 <jednorozec> might be a good idea
16:09:06 <nirik> asked in matrix.
16:09:29 <jednorozec> thanks
16:09:51 <jednorozec> #topic PDC retirement
16:09:56 <sharkcz> hi guys, yes, bigger space for ostree would be nice
16:10:01 <jednorozec> So we have first app dropping PDC
16:10:35 <jednorozec> pagure and releng scripts are in progress
16:10:36 <nirik> great, which one?
16:10:46 <jednorozec> release-monitoring
16:10:46 <nirik> sharkcz: yeah, will see what adamw says...
16:11:22 <nirik> great!
16:12:18 <nirik> I look forward to seeing it in the rear view mirror.
16:12:20 <jednorozec> we will get there! just 4-5 years after my original plan but we will :)
16:13:58 <jednorozec> ok I dont have anything specific to discuss, do you have something nirik? Or should we review tickets?
16:14:18 <nirik> a bit of plans:
16:14:50 <nirik> If we release next week, I'd like to do a mass update/reboot outage the following week... then it's thanksgiving week in the us...
16:15:00 <nirik> and somewhere in there reinstall builders with f39
16:15:07 <nirik> and update to new sigul
16:15:32 <jednorozec> that is a lot of things
16:15:41 <nirik> yeah, sadly so.
16:15:59 <nirik> otherwise I didn't have anything, we could do tickets for a bit, or have a early meeting or whatever.
16:16:09 <jednorozec> so the reinstall
16:16:23 <jednorozec> I want to help, didnt manage to do that last time
16:16:44 <jednorozec> you want to do it before the thanks giving week?
16:16:53 <nirik> yeah, that would be good. I'm happy to go over it, do some, etc.
16:17:05 <nirik> if there's time... :)
16:17:24 * jednorozec summons time slowing cat
16:17:55 <jednorozec> now we have all the time in the universe, the cat slows time for the rest of universe but not this channel
16:17:56 <nirik> we should also make sure there's a sop... it's not complex, but you need to do all the steps in the right order. ;)
16:18:58 <jednorozec> I have switched my virt node to fedora, to get some experience in re-installs
16:19:16 <nirik> ansible does most of the heavy lifting. ;)
16:19:32 <nirik> I suppose actually later this week, or next we could do staging...
16:20:21 <jednorozec> sure, if we can sync in day or two prior to it I can stay longer or get up extra early...
16:20:46 <jednorozec> not a problem on my side
16:21:35 <jednorozec> #topic tickets
16:21:55 <nirik> ok, will see how the week goes.
16:22:07 <jednorozec> .releng 11751
16:22:08 <zodbot> jednorozec: Issue #11751: libssh2-devel seems to be missing from the EPEL7 x86_64 buildroot - releng - Pagure.io - https://pagure.io/releng/issue/11751
16:22:11 <jednorozec> this is interesting
16:22:37 <nirik> Oh, I did have a quick question... on the fedora media writer, I should assume they are going to do the macos one and sign it now? or should I actually try and do the last version?
16:22:54 <nirik> I looked at this a little, but didn't have time to dig deeply.
16:23:50 <nirik> somehow the newer devel package isn't being seen
16:24:50 <jednorozec> About the FMW I dont think they will be able to do the new build&sign any time soon
16:25:05 <jednorozec> are you able to build it?
16:25:19 <jednorozec> is it complex task?
16:25:44 <jednorozec> Only thing that there is with the new version is that it includes new variants
16:25:54 <nirik> well, apple changed the way signing works, so it will be a pain to figure it out again. ;(
16:26:09 <nirik> (changed again I should say)
16:26:25 <jednorozec> ok
16:26:37 <jednorozec> can you add comment to the release-notes request? https://pagure.io/fedora-docs/release-notes/issue/1059
16:27:18 <jednorozec> From the meeting with devel my understanding is its mainly about the new variants
16:28:10 <jednorozec> while its not great to have old FMW, because of the changes we really should give this back to the upstream+cloudHSM
16:28:45 <jednorozec> the change to cloudHSM is on their road map
16:29:10 <nirik> ok. I just wanted to make sure they were not expecting/waiting on anything from us.
16:30:38 <jednorozec> ok let me communicate it their way clearly, that releng is not building & signing latest version of FMW because of the process changes and time constrains
16:31:20 <nirik> that would be good... and if they push back we can try and accomidate something, but I am not sure what
16:32:16 <jednorozec> I will add the  "but I am not sure what" part :)
16:33:11 <jednorozec> .releng 10666
16:33:12 <zodbot> jednorozec: Issue #10666: PackageKit-gtk3-module i686 missing from x86_64 repos - releng - Pagure.io - https://pagure.io/releng/issue/10666
16:33:28 <jednorozec> samyak wanted me to mention that the PR is ready I give it +1
16:33:34 <jednorozec> just waiting post freeze
16:34:00 <nirik> cool.
16:34:48 <jednorozec> I was thinking about this
16:34:50 <jednorozec> .releng 11730
16:34:51 <zodbot> jednorozec: Issue #11730: Delete branch baloo-dep from plasma-workspace - releng - Pagure.io - https://pagure.io/releng/issue/11730
16:35:10 <jednorozec> its been bunch of requests lately with branch deletions
16:35:45 <jednorozec> so should we just create $ fedpkg delete-branch-request
16:35:46 <nirik> yeah. ;(
16:36:09 <nirik> if we can programatically figure out how to know if it's ok to do or not...
16:36:15 <nirik> which I guess we can now.
16:36:18 <jednorozec> that will run the chekcs and validate no build and just waits for +1 from someone from sysadmin-main?
16:37:14 <jednorozec> my idea was at first let it open tickets in scm-requests, that way we will move another scm related tast to scm-tracker, unretirement request its on its way there is a WIP PR in fedpkg
16:38:00 <jednorozec> and plug in toddler if possible to at least run the checks so we dont have to and do just the $git branch -D
16:38:13 <nirik> I'm not sure if all the delete branch requests are just a random thing lately or a trend
16:38:25 <jednorozec> it might be all stupid I am just thinking loud
16:38:27 <nirik> but does seem like more lately
16:38:41 <jednorozec> but from my perspective it makes sense to have all scm-requests in scm-tracker
16:38:50 <nirik> no, it's a good idea... I'm not sure if it's worth doing yet tho... but might be... :)
16:39:30 <jednorozec> ok I will write it down and put it somewhere and maybe it will be friday project or something
16:39:49 <jednorozec> well the farts branch on golang package was funny :D
16:40:23 <nirik> heh. yeah.
16:40:28 <jednorozec> they seem to be genuine mistakes most of the time its pr/something of feature/somethign but sometimes its farts
16:40:47 <nirik> quote of the day: "sometimes it's farts"
16:40:48 <nirik> :)
16:40:56 <jednorozec> hehe
16:42:16 <jednorozec> .releng 7400
16:42:17 <zodbot> jednorozec: Issue #7400: Rethink how we handle networking config with createImage (oz / ImageFactory) - releng - Pagure.io - https://pagure.io/releng/issue/7400
16:42:20 <jednorozec> should we close this ?
16:43:39 <nirik> I'm not sure... I'd have to try and swap back in all the context. ;)
16:44:33 <jednorozec> yeah it OLD one, but in general are we going to invest more time into imagefactory?
16:45:40 <nirik> true...
16:45:55 <nirik> sure, close it and say we will revisit
16:45:59 <nirik> with osbuild or whatever
16:46:07 <jednorozec> ack writing comment
16:48:19 <jednorozec> .releng 8337
16:48:20 <zodbot> jednorozec: Issue #8337: glibc-headers-2.29-12.fc30 i686 erroneously in x86_64 GA repo - releng - Pagure.io - https://pagure.io/releng/issue/8337
16:48:32 <jednorozec> was something done with this?
16:50:06 <nirik> seems not. ;(
16:50:24 <nirik> So, I guess we should ask if it's still desired, then actually do the plan I suggested.
16:50:37 <nirik> sorry for dropping it, it must have just fallen off my radar
16:50:44 <jednorozec> ok, I can take care about that
16:50:50 <jednorozec> no worries :)
16:51:15 <jednorozec> I can relate to stuff dropping from radar because there is always new stuff on the radar...
16:51:44 <nirik> yeah, it's hard to keep track of everything. ;(
16:51:50 <nirik> or even most things. ;)
16:53:30 <jednorozec> ok its 7 mins to the hour
16:53:32 <jednorozec> lets have
16:53:38 <nirik> ok. I think I figured out 11751 ... My theory is that it was our sync script hitting a package with a weird control char so createrepo_c barfed and then it didn't sync the rest of the repos into the right places.
16:53:38 <jednorozec> #topic Open Floor
16:54:08 <jednorozec> nice
16:54:22 <jednorozec> so what can we do about it?
16:54:27 <jednorozec> resync?
16:55:29 <nirik> I've moved the offending package and trying another sync to see if that was it.
16:55:45 <nirik> tboot-1.8.2-1.el7.x86_64.rpm has control chars in the changelog. ;(
16:55:52 <jednorozec> :/
16:56:40 <jednorozec> oh its already dark, I have to run to close the ducks
16:56:52 * nirik wonders how you close a duck. ;)
16:57:52 <jednorozec> with a Lid of course!
16:58:00 <jednorozec> #endmeeting