16:00:07 #startmeeting RELENG (2023-10-31) 16:00:07 Meeting started Tue Oct 31 16:00:07 2023 UTC. 16:00:07 This meeting is logged and archived in a public location. 16:00:07 The chair is jednorozec. Information about MeetBot at https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Zodbot#Meeting_Functions. 16:00:07 Useful Commands: #action #agreed #halp #info #idea #link #topic. 16:00:07 The meeting name has been set to 'releng_(2023-10-31)' 16:00:07 #meetingname releng 16:00:07 The meeting name has been set to 'releng' 16:00:07 #chair nirik sharkcz pbrobinson phsmoura dustymabe jednorozec 16:00:07 Current chairs: dustymabe jednorozec nirik pbrobinson phsmoura sharkcz 16:00:08 #topic init process 16:00:22 morning. 16:01:28 mornig 16:02:18 DST time hell and PTO's I think it will be only the two of us today 16:03:03 yeah, I hate DST change. :( 16:03:45 yeah 16:05:15 #topic Fedora 39 release cycle 16:05:25 so rc 1.4 is out, thnaks nirik 16:05:40 I think you did all the RCs for this final 16:05:47 yeah, sorry for hogging all the composing. :( Just works out that way due to timezones. 16:06:09 there's some failed artifacts in 1.4... but not sure it's gonna block it 16:06:27 a few of the ostree installers ran out of space, and some weird arm dbus bug. ;( 16:06:40 hopefully all the blocker that are not waived are addressed 16:07:31 we can still manage to make 1.5 16:07:38 There's one weird arm/lvm thing that I know of... but unclear how blockery it is to me right now 16:08:07 I wonder if we might want to bump space on those ostrees and do 1.5... can suggest it to adamw... 16:08:44 might be a good idea 16:09:06 asked in matrix. 16:09:29 thanks 16:09:51 #topic PDC retirement 16:09:56 hi guys, yes, bigger space for ostree would be nice 16:10:01 So we have first app dropping PDC 16:10:35 pagure and releng scripts are in progress 16:10:36 great, which one? 16:10:46 release-monitoring 16:10:46 sharkcz: yeah, will see what adamw says... 16:11:22 great! 16:12:18 I look forward to seeing it in the rear view mirror. 16:12:20 we will get there! just 4-5 years after my original plan but we will :) 16:13:58 ok I dont have anything specific to discuss, do you have something nirik? Or should we review tickets? 16:14:18 a bit of plans: 16:14:50 If we release next week, I'd like to do a mass update/reboot outage the following week... then it's thanksgiving week in the us... 16:15:00 and somewhere in there reinstall builders with f39 16:15:07 and update to new sigul 16:15:32 that is a lot of things 16:15:41 yeah, sadly so. 16:15:59 otherwise I didn't have anything, we could do tickets for a bit, or have a early meeting or whatever. 16:16:09 so the reinstall 16:16:23 I want to help, didnt manage to do that last time 16:16:44 you want to do it before the thanks giving week? 16:16:53 yeah, that would be good. I'm happy to go over it, do some, etc. 16:17:05 if there's time... :) 16:17:24 * jednorozec summons time slowing cat 16:17:55 now we have all the time in the universe, the cat slows time for the rest of universe but not this channel 16:17:56 we should also make sure there's a sop... it's not complex, but you need to do all the steps in the right order. ;) 16:18:58 I have switched my virt node to fedora, to get some experience in re-installs 16:19:16 ansible does most of the heavy lifting. ;) 16:19:32 I suppose actually later this week, or next we could do staging... 16:20:21 sure, if we can sync in day or two prior to it I can stay longer or get up extra early... 16:20:46 not a problem on my side 16:21:35 #topic tickets 16:21:55 ok, will see how the week goes. 16:22:07 .releng 11751 16:22:08 jednorozec: Issue #11751: libssh2-devel seems to be missing from the EPEL7 x86_64 buildroot - releng - Pagure.io - https://pagure.io/releng/issue/11751 16:22:11 this is interesting 16:22:37 Oh, I did have a quick question... on the fedora media writer, I should assume they are going to do the macos one and sign it now? or should I actually try and do the last version? 16:22:54 I looked at this a little, but didn't have time to dig deeply. 16:23:50 somehow the newer devel package isn't being seen 16:24:50 About the FMW I dont think they will be able to do the new build&sign any time soon 16:25:05 are you able to build it? 16:25:19 is it complex task? 16:25:44 Only thing that there is with the new version is that it includes new variants 16:25:54 well, apple changed the way signing works, so it will be a pain to figure it out again. ;( 16:26:09 (changed again I should say) 16:26:25 ok 16:26:37 can you add comment to the release-notes request? https://pagure.io/fedora-docs/release-notes/issue/1059 16:27:18 From the meeting with devel my understanding is its mainly about the new variants 16:28:10 while its not great to have old FMW, because of the changes we really should give this back to the upstream+cloudHSM 16:28:45 the change to cloudHSM is on their road map 16:29:10 ok. I just wanted to make sure they were not expecting/waiting on anything from us. 16:30:38 ok let me communicate it their way clearly, that releng is not building & signing latest version of FMW because of the process changes and time constrains 16:31:20 that would be good... and if they push back we can try and accomidate something, but I am not sure what 16:32:16 I will add the "but I am not sure what" part :) 16:33:11 .releng 10666 16:33:12 jednorozec: Issue #10666: PackageKit-gtk3-module i686 missing from x86_64 repos - releng - Pagure.io - https://pagure.io/releng/issue/10666 16:33:28 samyak wanted me to mention that the PR is ready I give it +1 16:33:34 just waiting post freeze 16:34:00 cool. 16:34:48 I was thinking about this 16:34:50 .releng 11730 16:34:51 jednorozec: Issue #11730: Delete branch baloo-dep from plasma-workspace - releng - Pagure.io - https://pagure.io/releng/issue/11730 16:35:10 its been bunch of requests lately with branch deletions 16:35:45 so should we just create $ fedpkg delete-branch-request 16:35:46 yeah. ;( 16:36:09 if we can programatically figure out how to know if it's ok to do or not... 16:36:15 which I guess we can now. 16:36:18 that will run the chekcs and validate no build and just waits for +1 from someone from sysadmin-main? 16:37:14 my idea was at first let it open tickets in scm-requests, that way we will move another scm related tast to scm-tracker, unretirement request its on its way there is a WIP PR in fedpkg 16:38:00 and plug in toddler if possible to at least run the checks so we dont have to and do just the $git branch -D 16:38:13 I'm not sure if all the delete branch requests are just a random thing lately or a trend 16:38:25 it might be all stupid I am just thinking loud 16:38:27 but does seem like more lately 16:38:41 but from my perspective it makes sense to have all scm-requests in scm-tracker 16:38:50 no, it's a good idea... I'm not sure if it's worth doing yet tho... but might be... :) 16:39:30 ok I will write it down and put it somewhere and maybe it will be friday project or something 16:39:49 well the farts branch on golang package was funny :D 16:40:23 heh. yeah. 16:40:28 they seem to be genuine mistakes most of the time its pr/something of feature/somethign but sometimes its farts 16:40:47 quote of the day: "sometimes it's farts" 16:40:48 :) 16:40:56 hehe 16:42:16 .releng 7400 16:42:17 jednorozec: Issue #7400: Rethink how we handle networking config with createImage (oz / ImageFactory) - releng - Pagure.io - https://pagure.io/releng/issue/7400 16:42:20 should we close this ? 16:43:39 I'm not sure... I'd have to try and swap back in all the context. ;) 16:44:33 yeah it OLD one, but in general are we going to invest more time into imagefactory? 16:45:40 true... 16:45:55 sure, close it and say we will revisit 16:45:59 with osbuild or whatever 16:46:07 ack writing comment 16:48:19 .releng 8337 16:48:20 jednorozec: Issue #8337: glibc-headers-2.29-12.fc30 i686 erroneously in x86_64 GA repo - releng - Pagure.io - https://pagure.io/releng/issue/8337 16:48:32 was something done with this? 16:50:06 seems not. ;( 16:50:24 So, I guess we should ask if it's still desired, then actually do the plan I suggested. 16:50:37 sorry for dropping it, it must have just fallen off my radar 16:50:44 ok, I can take care about that 16:50:50 no worries :) 16:51:15 I can relate to stuff dropping from radar because there is always new stuff on the radar... 16:51:44 yeah, it's hard to keep track of everything. ;( 16:51:50 or even most things. ;) 16:53:30 ok its 7 mins to the hour 16:53:32 lets have 16:53:38 ok. I think I figured out 11751 ... My theory is that it was our sync script hitting a package with a weird control char so createrepo_c barfed and then it didn't sync the rest of the repos into the right places. 16:53:38 #topic Open Floor 16:54:08 nice 16:54:22 so what can we do about it? 16:54:27 resync? 16:55:29 I've moved the offending package and trying another sync to see if that was it. 16:55:45 tboot-1.8.2-1.el7.x86_64.rpm has control chars in the changelog. ;( 16:55:52 :/ 16:56:40 oh its already dark, I have to run to close the ducks 16:56:52 * nirik wonders how you close a duck. ;) 16:57:52 with a Lid of course! 16:58:00 #endmeeting