2024-02-27 17:01:41 <@jnsamyak:matrix.org> !startmeeting RELENG (2024-02-27)
2024-02-27 17:01:43 <@meetbot:fedora.im> Meeting started at 2024-02-27 17:01:41 UTC
2024-02-27 17:01:43 <@meetbot:fedora.im> The Meeting name is 'RELENG (2024-02-27)'
2024-02-27 17:01:48 <@jnsamyak:matrix.org> !meetingname releng
2024-02-27 17:01:53 <@jnsamyak:matrix.org> !chair nirik sharkcz pbrobinson phsmoura dustymabe jednorozec jnsamyak patrikp

2024-02-27 17:01:59 <@jnsamyak:matrix.org> !info Meeting is 60 minutes MAX. At the end of 60, it stop

2024-02-27 17:02:04 <@jnsamyak:matrix.org> !info agenda is at https://hackmd.io/vm6biLBcTYKtkQUH5kQkmw

2024-02-27 17:02:13 <@jnsamyak:matrix.org> !topic init process
2024-02-27 17:02:17 <@jnsamyak:matrix.org> !hello jnsamyak
2024-02-27 17:02:19 <@zodbot:fedora.im> Samyak Jain (jnsamyak) - he / him / his
2024-02-27 17:02:34 <@jnsamyak:matrix.org> Hello folks, welcoming to the releng weekly! How is everyone doing today?
2024-02-27 17:03:04 <@patrikp:matrix.org> 👋
2024-02-27 17:03:16 <@nirik:matrix.scrye.com> morning
2024-02-27 17:03:44 <@jnsamyak:matrix.org> hola folks, ok for the init process i have some quick infos to share!
2024-02-27 17:03:45 <@jnsamyak:matrix.org> !info Fedora 40 Bodhi enablement and Beta freeze is in action
2024-02-27 17:04:52 <@jnsamyak:matrix.org> !info Beta Freeze (starts at 1400 UTC)	Tue 2024-02-27 till Tue 2024-03-12	14 days
2024-02-27 17:05:35 <@jnsamyak:matrix.org> that's all, anything else that anyone wants to bring up? if not, we can jump to next interesting section where we discuss the piled tickets :)
2024-02-27 17:06:37 <@jnsamyak:matrix.org> !topic Tickets needing attention
2024-02-27 17:06:44 <@jnsamyak:matrix.org> !info this is the time where you can bring releng tickets to discuss if there are blockers etc
2024-02-27 17:06:54 <@jnsamyak:matrix.org> nirik: do you wanna start?
2024-02-27 17:07:02 <@nirik:matrix.scrye.com> sure, lets see...
2024-02-27 17:07:09 <@jnsamyak:matrix.org> hehe 
2024-02-27 17:07:25 <@nirik:matrix.scrye.com> There's several tickets around packages not getting blocked in rawhide/f41...
2024-02-27 17:07:36 <@nirik:matrix.scrye.com> I took a quick look and couldn't see why things were not working.
2024-02-27 17:08:12 <@nirik:matrix.scrye.com> !releng 11981
2024-02-27 17:08:13 <@zodbot:fedora.im> **releng #11981** (https://pagure.io/releng/issue/11981):**Retire kpipewire5 on f40 and rawhide**

● **Opened:** a day ago by churchyard
● **Last Updated:** a day ago
● **Assignee:** Not Assigned
2024-02-27 17:08:22 <@nirik:matrix.scrye.com> !releng 11980
2024-02-27 17:08:23 <@zodbot:fedora.im> **releng #11980** (https://pagure.io/releng/issue/11980):**Retirements stuck at f40**

● **Opened:** a day ago by churchyard
● **Last Updated:** 3 hours ago
● **Assignee:** Not Assigned
2024-02-27 17:08:35 <@nirik:matrix.scrye.com> !releng 11979
2024-02-27 17:08:36 <@zodbot:fedora.im> **releng #11979** (https://pagure.io/releng/issue/11979):**Some questions about man-pages-ko in koji**

● **Opened:** a day ago by pwu
● **Last Updated:** 9 hours ago
● **Assignee:** Not Assigned
2024-02-27 17:08:38 <@jnsamyak:matrix.org> yep +1 that I need to dicuss as well  -  I checked the scripts concering that but didn't find anything unusual, also before processing them manually i wanted to confirm the procedure  
2024-02-27 17:09:20 <@nirik:matrix.scrye.com> Yeah, I didn't look in pdc yet... but the process is basically:
2024-02-27 17:09:27 <@jnsamyak:matrix.org> I checked the blocker_retired script that i guess should be of concern, doesn't seem to find any issue there :/
2024-02-27 17:09:45 <@humaton:fedora.im> so
2024-02-27 17:09:48 <@humaton:fedora.im> the retirements
2024-02-27 17:09:53 <@jnsamyak:matrix.org> I mentioned koji steps here: https://pagure.io/releng/issue/11981#comment-897919
2024-02-27 17:09:57 <@humaton:fedora.im> I think we need to add new release somewhere
2024-02-27 17:10:03 <@jnsamyak:matrix.org> jednorozec: 👋
2024-02-27 17:10:07 <@nirik:matrix.scrye.com> someone commits a dead.package file, there's a listener on bodhi-backend01 that sees it, it is supposed to set pdc to an EOL date of that date, then when rawhide and branched run they run releng/scripts/block_retired.py
2024-02-27 17:10:23 <@nirik:matrix.scrye.com> I couldn't see anywhere missing the new release. ;(
2024-02-27 17:11:06 <@nirik:matrix.scrye.com> actually sorry...
2024-02-27 17:11:21 <@nirik:matrix.scrye.com> I misremembered... there isn't anything on bodhi-backend01 here... it's a toddler
2024-02-27 17:11:29 <@humaton:fedora.im> yup
2024-02-27 17:11:37 <@humaton:fedora.im> and I think that toddler have something in ansible
2024-02-27 17:11:40 <@nirik:matrix.scrye.com> I looked at it's logs and it saw the commit and said it was setting it. it didn't have any error...
2024-02-27 17:13:48 <@jnsamyak:matrix.org> the only toddler thingy we did at the time pof branching was this: https://pagure.io/fedora-infra/ansible/c/c9049a56db99f5eebbfebd88f4589b4853d66d3d?branch=main
2024-02-27 17:14:41 <@humaton:fedora.im> yeah that might be the right place
2024-02-27 17:14:48 <@humaton:fedora.im> 40 is missing in some places 
2024-02-27 17:15:01 <@humaton:fedora.im> but nothing relevant to retirement
2024-02-27 17:15:08 <@humaton:fedora.im> like this https://pagure.io/fedora-infra/ansible/blob/c9049a56db99f5eebbfebd88f4589b4853d66d3d/f/roles/openshift-apps/toddlers/templates/fedora-messaging.toml#_190
2024-02-27 17:16:47 <@nirik:matrix.scrye.com> yes, that needs fixing, but isn't this particular problem.
2024-02-27 17:17:00 <@humaton:fedora.im> nope its not but its something like this 
2024-02-27 17:17:09 <@humaton:fedora.im> we missed some place somewhere
2024-02-27 17:17:32 <@humaton:fedora.im> what weird that I remember writing it down into the new docs last year
2024-02-27 17:18:15 <@jnsamyak:matrix.org> yeah i checked the issues from 6 months back there were some but cou;ldn't find anything useful out of it
2024-02-27 17:19:00 <@humaton:fedora.im> hmm link?
2024-02-27 17:20:13 <@jnsamyak:matrix.org> pagure is awfully slow for me last couple of days or it's my system i dont understand 
2024-02-27 17:21:36 <@nirik:matrix.scrye.com> There should be some place that says what branches allow retiring...
2024-02-27 17:21:47 <@humaton:fedora.im> yup
2024-02-27 17:21:47 <@nirik:matrix.scrye.com> but not sure if thats this problem because it didn't work for rawhide either?
2024-02-27 17:21:55 <@humaton:fedora.im> there is one in releng repo that was updated
2024-02-27 17:22:05 <@nirik:matrix.scrye.com> perhaps the pdc token is messed up for toddlers and pdc isn't returning any error?
2024-02-27 17:22:13 <@humaton:fedora.im> hum
2024-02-27 17:24:16 <@humaton:fedora.im> there is a stack trace
2024-02-27 17:24:22 <@humaton:fedora.im> not sure if relevant
2024-02-27 17:25:07 <@nirik:matrix.scrye.com> I'm looking back into logs for kpipewire5...
2024-02-27 17:27:09 <@nirik:matrix.scrye.com> I don't see that one in logs... but it was like 1.5 months ago...
2024-02-27 17:27:11 <@humaton:fedora.im> so the script that actually block stuff has correct fedora versions in it
2024-02-27 17:27:36 <@jnsamyak:matrix.org> block_retired.py?
2024-02-27 17:27:42 <@nirik:matrix.scrye.com> So, how about we manually block all the ones with tickets then try and keep an eye out for if it's still happening?
2024-02-27 17:27:49 <@humaton:fedora.im> yes
2024-02-27 17:27:52 <@nirik:matrix.scrye.com> (instead of using our entire meeting on it; )
2024-02-27 17:28:08 <@nirik:matrix.scrye.com> oh, we need to update pdc too if it's not.
2024-02-27 17:28:24 <@humaton:fedora.im> I think its better to fix it and it will pick up all the packages that needs to get blocked
2024-02-27 17:28:29 <@humaton:fedora.im> I can take that and fix it
2024-02-27 17:28:38 <@humaton:fedora.im> no need to spend more time on it here
2024-02-27 17:28:50 <@jnsamyak:matrix.org> I can do that, but I just need to confirm two things
for koji we can do koji block-pkg <> <>
while for pdc we can make use of ahust eols or what?
2024-02-27 17:28:52 <@humaton:fedora.im> I will sync my findings with jnsamyak tmrw
2024-02-27 17:29:02 <@jnsamyak:matrix.org> oh you beat me to it sure thing
2024-02-27 17:29:13 <@jnsamyak:matrix.org> hack tomorrow :D
2024-02-27 17:29:21 <@nirik:matrix.scrye.com> well, we should only need to adjust pdc for the date it was retired and then the block_retired script should block it
2024-02-27 17:29:37 <@jnsamyak:matrix.org> !releng 11982
2024-02-27 17:29:38 <@zodbot:fedora.im> **releng #11982** (https://pagure.io/releng/issue/11982):**Please create Fedora 40 Flatpak release in Bodhi**

● **Opened:** 23 hours ago by mattia
● **Last Updated:** an hour ago
● **Assignee:** jnsamyak
2024-02-27 17:29:57 <@jnsamyak:matrix.org> I think I found out why the comand wasn't working
2024-02-27 17:30:33 <@jnsamyak:matrix.org> I tried listing the f40-flatpak* tags but i couldn't find any which should have een created using make-koji-release-tag script
2024-02-27 17:31:18 <@jnsamyak:matrix.org> the question is to investigate, or can I create those tags manually now and not re-run the script to fix it?
2024-02-27 17:31:19 <@nirik:matrix.scrye.com> yeah, they are not there.
2024-02-27 17:32:18 <@nirik:matrix.scrye.com> I'd say cut that part of the script out (the part to do with *flatpak* tags) and run that manually to see where it might be erroring?
2024-02-27 17:32:32 <@nirik:matrix.scrye.com> you could also test in staging...
2024-02-27 17:32:59 <@jnsamyak:matrix.org> staging seems to be a good testing place for it will do thanks for heads up
2024-02-27 17:33:05 <@nirik:matrix.scrye.com> I guess that script will just fail on anything thats already created... right?
2024-02-27 17:33:22 <@jnsamyak:matrix.org> yes
2024-02-27 17:34:09 <@nirik:matrix.scrye.com> yeah, sounds like there's some problem in the script thats preventing it from making the top tag and then the rest just fail... but I would expect it to output some errors.
2024-02-27 17:34:20 <@nirik:matrix.scrye.com> Anyhow, yeah, try on staging
2024-02-27 17:34:36 <@jnsamyak:matrix.org> yep 
2024-02-27 17:34:56 <@jnsamyak:matrix.org> !releng 11968
2024-02-27 17:34:57 <@zodbot:fedora.im> **releng #11968** (https://pagure.io/releng/issue/11968):**Get some error message when push the private branch to the fork google-noto-sans-cjk-fonts repo**

● **Opened:** a week ago by pwu
● **Last Updated:** 6 days ago
● **Assignee:** Not Assigned
2024-02-27 17:36:27 <@nirik:matrix.scrye.com> not looked at this one. No idea here... not sure if it's a issue with pagure or got or what...
2024-02-27 17:36:49 <@jnsamyak:matrix.org> i think, this issue should be opened at pagure
2024-02-27 17:37:06 <@jnsamyak:matrix.org> repo doesn't seem to be a releng problem?
2024-02-27 17:37:32 <@nirik:matrix.scrye.com> well, perhaps. Dunno if it's pagure or something we deploy like the fedora-messaging plugin.
2024-02-27 17:37:43 <@nirik:matrix.scrye.com> perhaps we could get Aurélien B to take a quick glance...
2024-02-27 17:38:22 <@jnsamyak:matrix.org> maybe, I'll check with aurelien tomorrow 
2024-02-27 17:39:01 <@jnsamyak:matrix.org> sorry I hijacked your time for ticket, but this is the last one that i want to bring up and then stage is all yours nirik 
2024-02-27 17:39:08 <@jnsamyak:matrix.org> !releng 11965
2024-02-27 17:39:09 <@zodbot:fedora.im> **releng #11965** (https://pagure.io/releng/issue/11965):**Collect Atomic Desktop artifacts under single directory**

● **Opened:** a week ago by alebastr
● **Last Updated:** a day ago
● **Assignee:** jnsamyak
2024-02-27 17:40:08 <@humaton:fedora.im> this one
2024-02-27 17:40:10 <@nirik:matrix.scrye.com> so I guess this needs pungi changes... if we want it to happen for beta we will need to get a freeze break for deploying/adjusting that.
2024-02-27 17:40:16 <@humaton:fedora.im> are we really doing this for f40?
2024-02-27 17:40:52 <@humaton:fedora.im> some changes are already submitted but this will have consequences
2024-02-27 17:41:13 <@humaton:fedora.im> as Adam outlined in his comment
2024-02-27 17:41:19 <@nirik:matrix.scrye.com> I don't know... the accepted change is all supposed to be 'marketing'
2024-02-27 17:41:27 <@humaton:fedora.im> exactly
2024-02-27 17:41:31 <@nirik:matrix.scrye.com> so, I'd be happier doing this for f41.
2024-02-27 17:41:36 <@humaton:fedora.im> I just re checked and there was just rename
2024-02-27 17:41:40 <@jnsamyak:matrix.org> for the freeze back thing, this needs to be approved by fesco (which both of you are anyways :P) but for my knowledge i'm asking because i'm not sure if we can break and fix things before the beta release happens
2024-02-27 17:42:07 <@nirik:matrix.scrye.com> we can, we just should be very careful about it.
2024-02-27 17:42:20 <@nirik:matrix.scrye.com> in any case we should change rawhide first and work out any issues.
2024-02-27 17:42:35 <@humaton:fedora.im> exactly
2024-02-27 17:43:01 <@nirik:matrix.scrye.com> so, IMHO, we just keep moving the rawhide work forward for now. If it turns out everything works super well, perhaps we can look at a freeze break for f40...
2024-02-27 17:43:01 <@jnsamyak:matrix.org> that's why I wanted to bring it up, because with limited capacity i'm not very inclined to do it for branched version and break everything (my pov)
2024-02-27 17:43:45 <@humaton:fedora.im> Should I write comment in there ?
2024-02-27 17:44:01 <@nirik:matrix.scrye.com> if you like, sure!
2024-02-27 17:44:06 <@humaton:fedora.im> something like: We will work on rawhide and if ready will merge to f40?
2024-02-27 17:44:14 <@nirik:matrix.scrye.com> yep
2024-02-27 17:44:48 <@nirik:matrix.scrye.com> shall we move on? or more on this one?
2024-02-27 17:45:21 <@jnsamyak:matrix.org> that's all i can bring this again in next meeting
2024-02-27 17:45:52 <@nirik:matrix.scrye.com> !releng 11726
2024-02-27 17:45:54 <@zodbot:fedora.im> **releng #11726** (https://pagure.io/releng/issue/11726):**Enable kiwi plugin for koji **

● **Opened:** 4 months ago by davdunc
● **Last Updated:** 6 days ago
● **Assignee:** Not Assigned
2024-02-27 17:46:24 <@nirik:matrix.scrye.com> so, with the koji upgrades last week I enabled the kiwi plugin. We need however to do a few more things, but we should just integrate them into our usual flow...
2024-02-27 17:47:03 <@nirik:matrix.scrye.com> namely: we need to make a kiwi-build koji group and we need to make new tags for it to build in, because it needs old_chroot
2024-02-27 17:47:54 <@nirik:matrix.scrye.com> I guess f41-kiwi-build ? with f41-kiwi target for it?
2024-02-27 17:48:47 <@jnsamyak:matrix.org> naming convention seems uniform to me, this is something similar to flatpak s also so makes sense
2024-02-27 17:48:52 <@nirik:matrix.scrye.com> Then 'koji add-group f41-kiwi-build kiwi-build' and 'koji add-group-pkg f41-kiwi-build kiwi-build kiwi-cli kiwi-systemdep'
2024-02-27 17:49:31 <@nirik:matrix.scrye.com> cool. Can you add it to the scripts? and can you just create it, or did you want me to? (we also need f40 for this)
2024-02-27 17:50:12 <@jnsamyak:matrix.org> I can create pr by eow for you to review if that seems fine we can merge it?
2024-02-27 17:50:22 <@nirik:matrix.scrye.com> sounds great!
2024-02-27 17:50:30 <@jnsamyak:matrix.org> once we have it merged i can create them 
2024-02-27 17:50:41 <@nirik:matrix.scrye.com> note that the f40 change is likely needing pungi config too. I am not sure what that is yet.
2024-02-27 17:50:49 <@jnsamyak:matrix.org> okay so its 11:30 pm and there are monkeys in my front area screaming
2024-02-27 17:50:58 <@nirik:matrix.scrye.com> but then it should all just work. ;)
2024-02-27 17:50:59 <@jnsamyak:matrix.org> okay so its 11:20 pm and there are monkeys in my front area screaming
2024-02-27 17:51:10 <@nirik:matrix.scrye.com> ick. Don't they sleep too?
2024-02-27 17:51:29 <@jnsamyak:matrix.org> I'll look at it tomorrow first thing, and will discuss more tomorrow with ya
2024-02-27 17:51:59 <@nirik:matrix.scrye.com> I have one more...
2024-02-27 17:52:04 <@nirik:matrix.scrye.com> https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2266096
2024-02-27 17:52:15 <@nirik:matrix.scrye.com> looks like we didn't enable updates-testing at branching right. ;(
2024-02-27 17:52:29 <@humaton:fedora.im> hm
2024-02-27 17:52:44 <@humaton:fedora.im> this is done by the variables in fedora-repos 
2024-02-27 17:52:59 <@nirik:matrix.scrye.com> (and as a side note, perhaps we should reassign primary admin on fedora-repos? I don't think mohan is going to care much)
2024-02-27 17:53:06 <@humaton:fedora.im> or release?
2024-02-27 17:53:57 <@nirik:matrix.scrye.com> %global updates_testing_enabled 0
2024-02-27 17:54:04 <@humaton:fedora.im> yeah
2024-02-27 17:54:10 <@nirik:matrix.scrye.com> oh wait... wrong branch
2024-02-27 17:54:12 <@jnsamyak:matrix.org> ah :( apologies for missing it
2024-02-27 17:54:28 <@nirik:matrix.scrye.com> oh yeah, it's that way on 40 too.
2024-02-27 17:54:33 <@humaton:fedora.im> yep
2024-02-27 17:54:37 <@humaton:fedora.im> its disabled in both
2024-02-27 17:54:41 <@nirik:matrix.scrye.com> no worries... so many small moving parts. ;(
2024-02-27 17:54:58 <@nirik:matrix.scrye.com> we should make sure and add it to the checklist of things to check.
2024-02-27 17:55:09 <@humaton:fedora.im> it was there
2024-02-27 17:55:20 <@nirik:matrix.scrye.com> ok. ;(
2024-02-27 17:55:27 <@humaton:fedora.im> but this happens
2024-02-27 17:55:29 <@nirik:matrix.scrye.com> anyhow, if you like I can fix it today, or leave it for you all...
2024-02-27 17:55:48 <@humaton:fedora.im> jnsamyak: just need to get into the machine bit deeper :D
2024-02-27 17:56:08 <@jnsamyak:matrix.org> yep can you enable it now please
2024-02-27 17:56:15 <@jnsamyak:matrix.org> I'll keep that in mind 
2024-02-27 17:56:57 <@nirik:matrix.scrye.com> sure.
2024-02-27 17:57:09 <@nirik:matrix.scrye.com> I probibly had other things, but I can't remember them and we are out of time anyhow. ;)
2024-02-27 17:57:29 <@humaton:fedora.im> so I have blocked the retirement packages from koji 
2024-02-27 17:57:31 <@nirik:matrix.scrye.com> oh, the koji db is still seeing load spikes, but it's mostly ok now...
2024-02-27 17:57:34 <@humaton:fedora.im> but there is something weird
2024-02-27 17:57:51 <@humaton:fedora.im> one of the packages does not even have f40 branch in pdc
2024-02-27 17:58:01 <@nirik:matrix.scrye.com> there was a index change in the update that caused some really common queries to no longer use an index. So it was unusable until we added that back
2024-02-27 17:58:28 <@nirik:matrix.scrye.com> never branched at branching time?
2024-02-27 17:58:31 <@humaton:fedora.im> oh I heard interesting thing about postgresql at fosdem from one of the devs
2024-02-27 17:58:45 <@jnsamyak:matrix.org> i just have one more if patrikp is around, are there any blockers for this one?

2024-02-27 17:58:46 <@jnsamyak:matrix.org> 11955
2024-02-27 17:58:53 <@jnsamyak:matrix.org> !releng 11955
2024-02-27 17:58:54 <@zodbot:fedora.im> **releng #11955** (https://pagure.io/releng/issue/11955):** Please send openh264 2.4.1 builds to Cisco**

● **Opened:** a week ago by kalev
● **Last Updated:** a week ago
● **Assignee:** patrikp
2024-02-27 17:58:58 <@humaton:fedora.im> did you know that you can gain free performance by aligning the block size on FS to the size used by PSQl?
2024-02-27 17:59:30 <@nirik:matrix.scrye.com> heh. nice.
2024-02-27 18:00:31 <@jnsamyak:matrix.org> and we are out of time :)
2024-02-27 18:01:10 <@jnsamyak:matrix.org> if we have something more urgent, we can take that to our releng channel i guess!
2024-02-27 18:01:36 <@nirik:matrix.scrye.com> thanks jnsamyak. Hope the monkeys shut up so you can get some sleep. ;)
2024-02-27 18:01:40 <@jnsamyak:matrix.org> !info Thank you all for coming.
2024-02-27 18:01:48 <@jnsamyak:matrix.org> nirik: they are still there i guess 5-10
2024-02-27 18:01:53 <@jnsamyak:matrix.org> !endmeeting