<@jnsamyak:matrix.org>
16:01:57
!startmeeting RELENG (2024-03-19)
<@meetbot:fedora.im>
16:02:00
Meeting started at 2024-03-19 16:01:57 UTC
<@meetbot:fedora.im>
16:02:00
The Meeting name is 'RELENG (2024-03-19)'
<@jnsamyak:matrix.org>
16:02:09
!meetingname releng
<@jnsamyak:matrix.org>
16:02:15
!chair nirik sharkcz pbrobinson phsmoura dustymabe jednorozec jnsamyak patrikp
<@jnsamyak:matrix.org>
16:02:24
!info Meeting is 60 minutes MAX. At the end of 60, it stop
<@jnsamyak:matrix.org>
16:02:31
!info agenda is at https://hackmd.io/vm6biLBcTYKtkQUH5kQkmw
<@nirik:matrix.scrye.com>
16:02:32
morning
<@jnsamyak:matrix.org>
16:02:39
!topic init process
<@jnsamyak:matrix.org>
16:03:08
Hello everyone, how much have you freeze this beta freeze? :3
<@jnsamyak:matrix.org>
16:05:03
I have nothing much for today apart from beta freeze items, we fired 1.9 at the last one which is in sync atm, we had to do a refire because GNOME 46 broke two desktop env :)
<@anshikavashistha:matrix.org>
16:05:12
This meeting is on the chat or any call
<@nirik:matrix.scrye.com>
16:05:17
me nods
<@jnsamyak:matrix.org>
16:05:23
nirik: do you have anything for the init process?
<@nirik:matrix.scrye.com>
16:05:28
nope.
<@jnsamyak:matrix.org>
16:05:33
Anshika Vashistha: Hello hello π
<@jnsamyak:matrix.org>
16:05:52
This meeting is happening right here, at #meeting-3:fedoraproject.org channel
<@nirik:matrix.scrye.com>
16:06:02
Anshika Vashistha: only in this chat.
<@jnsamyak:matrix.org>
16:06:24
Do you want to do a quick introduction to the meeting if you feel like? :D
<@anshikavashistha:matrix.org>
16:06:30
Hello jnsamyak nirik
<@anshikavashistha:matrix.org>
16:07:04
Okay
<@anshikavashistha:matrix.org>
16:07:43
Free to everyone,I am Anshika Vashistha currently an outreachy applicant and working on some issues in fedora-infra
<@anshikavashistha:matrix.org>
16:08:01
Greetings to everyone,I am Anshika Vashistha currently an outreachy applicant and working on some issues in fedora-infra
<@anshikavashistha:matrix.org>
16:09:19
Today I have my PR which is being merged in pagure-exportery
<@jnsamyak:matrix.org>
16:09:30
hello if you have any questions for us please send our way, this is a releng (Release Engineering) call that happens every tuesday this time, we discuss things going on with releng engineering and things involving fedora release process :)
You can find more info about it: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/infra/
<@anshikavashistha:matrix.org>
16:10:07
Sure jnsamyak
<@jnsamyak:matrix.org>
16:10:20
Awesome then, let's move on to our next interesting item for the meeting
<@jnsamyak:matrix.org>
16:10:27
!topic Tickets needing attention
<@jnsamyak:matrix.org>
16:10:33
!info this is the time where you can bring releng tickets to discuss if there are blockers etc
<@nirik:matrix.scrye.com>
16:11:32
I'm not sure I have any off hand...
<@jnsamyak:matrix.org>
16:11:32
nirik: just one thing I wanted to ask was, for the shim builds to include them in beta composes, you are tagging them to f40-compose right?
<@nirik:matrix.scrye.com>
16:11:43
yes, the 3 shim packages...
<@jnsamyak:matrix.org>
16:12:15
yep got it, just wanted to make sure thanks
<@jnsamyak:matrix.org>
16:12:34
even I dont have anything much for today, it's just one ticket
<@jnsamyak:matrix.org>
16:13:01
!infra 11689
<@zodbot:fedora.im>
16:13:02
**Usage:** !infra <subcommand> [...]
β oncall <subcommand> [...] - oncall
β status - get a list of the ongoing and planned outages
<@jnsamyak:matrix.org>
16:13:10
!ticket 11689
<@zodbot:fedora.im>
16:13:13
**fedora-infrastructure #11689** (https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/issue/11689):**Fedora 39 CHECKSUM file doesn't have any GPG data**
β **Opened:** 3 months ago by ananas-comosus
β **Last Updated:** 21 hours ago
β **Assignee:** jnsamyak
<@jnsamyak:matrix.org>
16:13:23
oh i got it right 0/
<@nirik:matrix.scrye.com>
16:13:48
Oh yeah, this one... we need to likely regenerate/seed the torrents after you fixed the files.
<@jnsamyak:matrix.org>
16:13:53
So for this, I am just have to create checksums again, so just putting it out there!
<@jnsamyak:matrix.org>
16:14:16
I was about to do them today but others things came :P
<@jnsamyak:matrix.org>
16:14:28
That's all from my end too!
<@nirik:matrix.scrye.com>
16:14:47
I have a few tickets I can propose closing...
<@jnsamyak:matrix.org>
16:14:49
wow this was a quick! :D
<@jnsamyak:matrix.org>
16:14:54
please please
<@jnsamyak:matrix.org>
16:14:59
we need less count
<@nirik:matrix.scrye.com>
16:15:59
so, we have a bunch of f40 change impact assessments... we can likely close those right?
<@nirik:matrix.scrye.com>
16:16:09
!releng 11669
<@zodbot:fedora.im>
16:16:10
**releng #11669** (https://pagure.io/releng/issue/11669):**F40 System-Wide Change: KDE Plasma 6**
β **Opened:** 6 months ago by ngompa
β **Last Updated:** 6 months ago
β **Assignee:** Not Assigned
<@nirik:matrix.scrye.com>
16:16:34
!releng 11790
<@zodbot:fedora.im>
16:16:35
**releng #11790** (https://pagure.io/releng/issue/11790):**F40 Self-Contained Change: Wget2 as Wget**
β **Opened:** 4 months ago by ngompa
β **Last Updated:** 3 months ago
β **Assignee:** Not Assigned
<@jnsamyak:matrix.org>
16:16:37
yep +1
<@nirik:matrix.scrye.com>
16:16:59
etc... there's a number more.
<@nirik:matrix.scrye.com>
16:17:08
would you like to close those, or want me to?
<@jnsamyak:matrix.org>
16:17:46
I can close them off and if there is something that involves us I'll discuss this with you
<@nirik:matrix.scrye.com>
16:18:18
ok. I think most of them are just the normal ticket required by the process to ask releng if there is any work needed on our part...
<@humaton:fedora.im>
16:18:19
!hi
<@zodbot:fedora.im>
16:18:20
TomΓ‘Ε‘ HrΔka (humaton) - he / him / his
<@nirik:matrix.scrye.com>
16:18:22
and often there is not.
<@humaton:fedora.im>
16:18:28
meybe just check if everything landed
<@nirik:matrix.scrye.com>
16:18:32
hey jednorozec!
<@jnsamyak:matrix.org>
16:18:36
yep
<@jnsamyak:matrix.org>
16:18:55
jednorozec: o/
<@humaton:fedora.im>
16:18:57
it sometimes happens that change is deferred
<@nirik:matrix.scrye.com>
16:19:00
We can close the kiwi tickets:
<@nirik:matrix.scrye.com>
16:19:35
11726 and one other one...
<@jnsamyak:matrix.org>
16:19:43
!releng 11854
<@zodbot:fedora.im>
16:19:44
**releng #11854** (https://pagure.io/releng/issue/11854):**F40 System-Wide Change: Build Fedora Cloud Edition Images Using Kiwi in Koji**
β **Opened:** 3 months ago by ngompa
β **Last Updated:** 2 months ago
β **Assignee:** Not Assigned
<@nirik:matrix.scrye.com>
16:20:10
yeah, that one too.
<@nirik:matrix.scrye.com>
16:20:58
you got those too? or want me to?
<@jnsamyak:matrix.org>
16:21:16
i closed these 2 already
<@nirik:matrix.scrye.com>
16:21:20
https://pagure.io/releng/issue/11921 seems misfiled... that should be an infra ticket... but I can try and just do it I guess.
<@jnsamyak:matrix.org>
16:21:25
but I'll check if there are more kiwi tickets
<@nirik:matrix.scrye.com>
16:22:03
https://pagure.io/releng/issue/11761 is another ticket on the checksum thing you were already fixing in that infra ticket? perhaps close it and point to the infra ticket?
<@nirik:matrix.scrye.com>
16:22:18
naw, no worries... just wanted to try and clean up some old ones.
<@jnsamyak:matrix.org>
16:24:06
Done
<@jnsamyak:matrix.org>
16:24:57
!releng 11845
<@zodbot:fedora.im>
16:24:58
**releng #11845** (https://pagure.io/releng/issue/11845):**F40 System-Wide Change: LLVM18**
β **Opened:** 3 months ago by tstellar
β **Last Updated:** 2 months ago
β **Assignee:** Not Assigned
<@jnsamyak:matrix.org>
16:25:15
I dont think we have anything else to do here
<@nirik:matrix.scrye.com>
16:25:20
that one can be closed...
<@jnsamyak:matrix.org>
16:26:13
!releng 11790
<@zodbot:fedora.im>
16:26:16
**releng #11790** (https://pagure.io/releng/issue/11790):**F40 Self-Contained Change: Wget2 as Wget**
β **Opened:** 4 months ago by ngompa
β **Last Updated:** 3 months ago
β **Assignee:** Not Assigned
<@jnsamyak:matrix.org>
16:26:26
We can close this as well, no releng impact here
<@nirik:matrix.scrye.com>
16:26:26
all done, and no impact on us -> close. ;)
<@jnsamyak:matrix.org>
16:27:48
!releng 11859
<@zodbot:fedora.im>
16:27:50
**releng #11859** (https://pagure.io/releng/issue/11859):** F40 System-Wide Change: java-21-openjdk as system JDK in F40**
β **Opened:** 3 months ago by pmikova
β **Last Updated:** 2 months ago
β **Assignee:** Not Assigned
<@nirik:matrix.scrye.com>
16:28:09
yep. also all done. This did have some releng impact, but not much...
<@jnsamyak:matrix.org>
16:28:13
I think we are done with this as well, we took care of all the sidetag issues that were opened for this
<@jnsamyak:matrix.org>
16:30:16
!releng 11865
<@zodbot:fedora.im>
16:30:18
**releng #11865** (https://pagure.io/releng/issue/11865):**F40 system-wide change: GNU Toolchain update for F40 https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/GNUToolchainF40**
β **Opened:** 3 months ago by codonell
β **Last Updated:** a month ago
β **Assignee:** Not Assigned
<@nirik:matrix.scrye.com>
16:31:37
also landed I am pretty sure...
<@jnsamyak:matrix.org>
16:31:39
I think this can asli we closed as the issue is resolved
<@jnsamyak:matrix.org>
16:31:50
the last comment by codonell verifies it
<@jnsamyak:matrix.org>
16:32:22
2 more to go to make it below 100 :)
<@jnsamyak:matrix.org>
16:32:55
!releng 11669
<@zodbot:fedora.im>
16:32:56
**releng #11669** (https://pagure.io/releng/issue/11669):**F40 System-Wide Change: KDE Plasma 6**
β **Opened:** 6 months ago by ngompa
β **Last Updated:** 6 months ago
β **Assignee:** Not Assigned
<@nirik:matrix.scrye.com>
16:33:12
all done. I am using it right now. ;)
<@jnsamyak:matrix.org>
16:33:14
nothing to do here :)
<@jnsamyak:matrix.org>
16:33:20
ha!
<@jnsamyak:matrix.org>
16:34:06
so last from change tag is
<@jnsamyak:matrix.org>
16:34:10
!releng 11438
<@zodbot:fedora.im>
16:34:11
**releng #11438** (https://pagure.io/releng/issue/11438):**Build JDKs once, repack everywhere**
β **Opened:** 10 months ago by jvanek
β **Last Updated:** 3 months ago
β **Assignee:** Not Assigned
<@nirik:matrix.scrye.com>
16:34:53
this should also be done I think...
<@jnsamyak:matrix.org>
16:35:08
I am looking at the fesco ticket quickly
<@nirik:matrix.scrye.com>
16:35:12
but I am not 100% sure I guess.
<@jnsamyak:matrix.org>
16:35:57
!fesco 3035
<@zodbot:fedora.im>
16:36:02
**fesco #3035** (https://pagure.io/fesco/issue/3035):**Change: Build JDKs once, repack everywhere **
β **Closed: Accepted** 8 months ago by tstellar
β **Opened:** 8 months ago by amoloney
β **Last Updated:** 7 months ago
β **Assignee:** jvanek
<@jnsamyak:matrix.org>
16:36:54
okay π this just tells the change was accepted
<@jnsamyak:matrix.org>
16:37:00
need to check if it landed
<@nirik:matrix.scrye.com>
16:37:05
I'd propose closing it and asking them to re-open if they see anything left to do.
<@nirik:matrix.scrye.com>
16:37:31
I definitely see the portable builds in koji and they were used for all the other builds, so I am not sure what could be missing.
<@jnsamyak:matrix.org>
16:37:46
i dont think if we have something from releng side to do anyways
<@nirik:matrix.scrye.com>
16:38:13
yeah, we already did make the needed tags...
<@jnsamyak:matrix.org>
16:38:59
drumroll we made it under century π
<@nirik:matrix.scrye.com>
16:39:20
a nice pychological number. ;)
<@jnsamyak:matrix.org>
16:40:09
I have some quick fixes branch deletion issue off hand, but that needs root access at batcave to get into package machine :)
<@nirik:matrix.scrye.com>
16:40:52
I could work with you on those sometime?
<@jnsamyak:matrix.org>
16:41:04
I'm happy tooo!
<@jnsamyak:matrix.org>
16:41:22
okay one thing to discuss if patrikp is around
<@jnsamyak:matrix.org>
16:41:26
!releng 11673
<@zodbot:fedora.im>
16:41:27
**releng #11673** (https://pagure.io/releng/issue/11673):**Fixes for release-candidate.sh in pungi-fedora**
β **Opened:** 6 months ago by kevin
β **Last Updated:** 5 months ago
β **Assignee:** patrikp
<@jnsamyak:matrix.org>
16:41:39
Do we have any updates on this?
<@jnsamyak:matrix.org>
16:42:02
are there any blockers that you want to discuss?
<@nirik:matrix.scrye.com>
16:42:26
oh yeah, I thought this might be close to ready...
<@jnsamyak:matrix.org>
16:42:44
well :) https://pagure.io/pungi-fedora/pull-request/1223 i see your comment as last here
<@nirik:matrix.scrye.com>
16:42:47
I mean we can try it for final rc's I guess? unless it needs more review?
<@jnsamyak:matrix.org>
16:42:57
i can check with him tomorrow i guess?
<@nirik:matrix.scrye.com>
16:43:10
oh yeah... some minor things.
<@nirik:matrix.scrye.com>
16:43:22
no hurry, the next time we would try it is final.
<@jnsamyak:matrix.org>
16:43:45
nirik: exactly that's why i'm more inclined to get this in, so atleast we can test it otherwise it will be no use until next release and will get stale
<@nirik:matrix.scrye.com>
16:43:59
it's tricky with something like this because we are always in a rush when doing rcs... so if it doesn't work right, we have to revert or fix it quickly.
<@jnsamyak:matrix.org>
16:44:51
but anyways let's move on...
<@jnsamyak:matrix.org>
16:45:19
!releng 11939
<@zodbot:fedora.im>
16:45:21
**releng #11939** (https://pagure.io/releng/issue/11939):**Fedora 40 Mass Branching Tracker**
β **Opened:** a month ago by jnsamyak
β **Last Updated:** a month ago
β **Assignee:** jnsamyak
<@jnsamyak:matrix.org>
16:45:37
I dont remember but I'm preety sure I intentionally kept it open for some reason
<@jnsamyak:matrix.org>
16:46:31
i guess there was no more issue that hit us later on, but i can search that up and will close this tomorrow wanted to make sure everything is recorded
<@nirik:matrix.scrye.com>
16:46:59
I think perhaps it was to make sure we had docs updated?
<@jnsamyak:matrix.org>
16:47:57
not sure but on me
<@nirik:matrix.scrye.com>
16:48:38
so, make sure each of the items listed are fixed in docs, then close I'd say
<@jnsamyak:matrix.org>
16:48:53
aye aye captain!
<@jnsamyak:matrix.org>
16:49:03
!releng 11775
<@zodbot:fedora.im>
16:49:04
**releng #11775** (https://pagure.io/releng/issue/11775):**Fix issue where updates-testing builds are never untagged pre GA**
β **Opened:** 4 months ago by yselkowitz
β **Last Updated:** 3 months ago
β **Assignee:** Not Assigned
<@jnsamyak:matrix.org>
16:49:12
IS there anything that i can help with here?
<@nirik:matrix.scrye.com>
16:50:13
let me try and swap this problem back into my brain
<@nirik:matrix.scrye.com>
16:51:37
yeah, so the problem is that we have a window where updates are tagged into updates-testing, but then never untagged...
<@nirik:matrix.scrye.com>
16:52:45
there's several possible fixes... we could just manually fix it at that point in the release. we could try and get bodhi to do it. we could make a toddler for it I guess (although that seems like overkill).
<@nirik:matrix.scrye.com>
16:53:11
not sure whats best. manual seems anoying...
<@jnsamyak:matrix.org>
16:54:09
okay my first question to understand the problem better: when you say we can manually fix them at point in release, when should be the right time for that?
<@nirik:matrix.scrye.com>
16:54:42
I'd have to think about it. ;)
<@humaton:fedora.im>
16:54:58
I think its after we have GOLD RC
<@nirik:matrix.scrye.com>
16:55:00
I think it's just before final/GA.
<@nirik:matrix.scrye.com>
16:55:05
yeah.
<@jnsamyak:matrix.org>
16:55:32
jednorozec: $$ XD
<@humaton:fedora.im>
16:55:33
so This should be fixed bodhi side
<@nirik:matrix.scrye.com>
16:56:11
but it's hardish to do there...
<@nirik:matrix.scrye.com>
16:56:17
I guess possible tho.
<@humaton:fedora.im>
16:56:19
once releng unfreeze the release some bodhi magick should kick in and tag stuff properly
<@nirik:matrix.scrye.com>
16:57:48
well, the problem is that we do want things tagged in both until there's a successfull stable compose... and bodhi doesn't have a easy way to know that in branched case.
<@nirik:matrix.scrye.com>
16:58:27
we could just punt and say 'if it's been tagged in for a week, and it's in stable, untag from testing'
<@jnsamyak:matrix.org>
16:58:37
this is definitely wrongly tagged this neither low-gain or low-trouble :)
<@humaton:fedora.im>
16:59:13
yeah solution for now its just to fix it manually
<@nirik:matrix.scrye.com>
16:59:18
well, the gain is that the updates-testing repo is smaller, less duplicated packages, but it's not usually a big problem
<@humaton:fedora.im>
16:59:40
but later on we should think of a way to tell bodhi, move the builds properly.
<@jnsamyak:matrix.org>
17:00:42
I'll put this summary discussion on the ticket as well, and see if I can put a quick note in https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/infra/release_guide/final_RC_compose/ here right?
<@jnsamyak:matrix.org>
17:01:23
whaat time flies and we were just getting started!
<@jnsamyak:matrix.org>
17:02:10
We can take this & more for the next meeting, hopefully we have beta released by then :)
<@nirik:matrix.scrye.com>
17:03:06
π€
<@jnsamyak:matrix.org>
17:03:20
just fyi I'll be away next monday and friday due to indian (festival of colour); I'll be here on tuesday, but in case of less fires I'll take wednesday and thrusday off to chill off
<@jnsamyak:matrix.org>
17:03:44
Okay then!
<@jnsamyak:matrix.org>
17:03:45
!info Thank you all for coming.
<@jnsamyak:matrix.org>
17:03:52
!endmeeting