2024-03-19 16:01:57 <@jnsamyak:matrix.org> !startmeeting RELENG (2024-03-19) 2024-03-19 16:02:00 <@meetbot:fedora.im> Meeting started at 2024-03-19 16:01:57 UTC 2024-03-19 16:02:00 <@meetbot:fedora.im> The Meeting name is 'RELENG (2024-03-19)' 2024-03-19 16:02:09 <@jnsamyak:matrix.org> !meetingname releng 2024-03-19 16:02:15 <@jnsamyak:matrix.org> !chair nirik sharkcz pbrobinson phsmoura dustymabe jednorozec jnsamyak patrikp 2024-03-19 16:02:24 <@jnsamyak:matrix.org> !info Meeting is 60 minutes MAX. At the end of 60, it stop 2024-03-19 16:02:31 <@jnsamyak:matrix.org> !info agenda is at https://hackmd.io/vm6biLBcTYKtkQUH5kQkmw 2024-03-19 16:02:32 <@nirik:matrix.scrye.com> morning 2024-03-19 16:02:39 <@jnsamyak:matrix.org> !topic init process 2024-03-19 16:03:08 <@jnsamyak:matrix.org> Hello everyone, how much have you freeze this beta freeze? :3 2024-03-19 16:05:03 <@jnsamyak:matrix.org> I have nothing much for today apart from beta freeze items, we fired 1.9 at the last one which is in sync atm, we had to do a refire because GNOME 46 broke two desktop env :) 2024-03-19 16:05:12 <@anshikavashistha:matrix.org> This meeting is on the chat or any call 2024-03-19 16:05:17 <@nirik:matrix.scrye.com> me nods 2024-03-19 16:05:23 <@jnsamyak:matrix.org> nirik: do you have anything for the init process? 2024-03-19 16:05:28 <@nirik:matrix.scrye.com> nope. 2024-03-19 16:05:33 <@jnsamyak:matrix.org> Anshika Vashistha: Hello hello 👋 2024-03-19 16:05:52 <@jnsamyak:matrix.org> This meeting is happening right here, at #meeting-3:fedoraproject.org channel 2024-03-19 16:06:02 <@nirik:matrix.scrye.com> Anshika Vashistha: only in this chat. 2024-03-19 16:06:24 <@jnsamyak:matrix.org> Do you want to do a quick introduction to the meeting if you feel like? :D 2024-03-19 16:06:30 <@anshikavashistha:matrix.org> Hello jnsamyak nirik 2024-03-19 16:07:04 <@anshikavashistha:matrix.org> Okay 2024-03-19 16:07:43 <@anshikavashistha:matrix.org> Free to everyone,I am Anshika Vashistha currently an outreachy applicant and working on some issues in fedora-infra 2024-03-19 16:08:01 <@anshikavashistha:matrix.org> Greetings to everyone,I am Anshika Vashistha currently an outreachy applicant and working on some issues in fedora-infra 2024-03-19 16:09:19 <@anshikavashistha:matrix.org> Today I have my PR which is being merged in pagure-exportery 2024-03-19 16:09:30 <@jnsamyak:matrix.org> hello if you have any questions for us please send our way, this is a releng (Release Engineering) call that happens every tuesday this time, we discuss things going on with releng engineering and things involving fedora release process :) You can find more info about it: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/infra/ 2024-03-19 16:10:07 <@anshikavashistha:matrix.org> Sure jnsamyak 2024-03-19 16:10:20 <@jnsamyak:matrix.org> Awesome then, let's move on to our next interesting item for the meeting 2024-03-19 16:10:27 <@jnsamyak:matrix.org> !topic Tickets needing attention 2024-03-19 16:10:33 <@jnsamyak:matrix.org> !info this is the time where you can bring releng tickets to discuss if there are blockers etc 2024-03-19 16:11:32 <@nirik:matrix.scrye.com> I'm not sure I have any off hand... 2024-03-19 16:11:32 <@jnsamyak:matrix.org> nirik: just one thing I wanted to ask was, for the shim builds to include them in beta composes, you are tagging them to f40-compose right? 2024-03-19 16:11:43 <@nirik:matrix.scrye.com> yes, the 3 shim packages... 2024-03-19 16:12:15 <@jnsamyak:matrix.org> yep got it, just wanted to make sure thanks 2024-03-19 16:12:34 <@jnsamyak:matrix.org> even I dont have anything much for today, it's just one ticket 2024-03-19 16:13:01 <@jnsamyak:matrix.org> !infra 11689 2024-03-19 16:13:02 <@zodbot:fedora.im> **Usage:** !infra [...] ● oncall [...] - oncall ● status - get a list of the ongoing and planned outages 2024-03-19 16:13:10 <@jnsamyak:matrix.org> !ticket 11689 2024-03-19 16:13:13 <@zodbot:fedora.im> **fedora-infrastructure #11689** (https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/issue/11689):**Fedora 39 CHECKSUM file doesn't have any GPG data** ● **Opened:** 3 months ago by ananas-comosus ● **Last Updated:** 21 hours ago ● **Assignee:** jnsamyak 2024-03-19 16:13:23 <@jnsamyak:matrix.org> oh i got it right 0/ 2024-03-19 16:13:48 <@nirik:matrix.scrye.com> Oh yeah, this one... we need to likely regenerate/seed the torrents after you fixed the files. 2024-03-19 16:13:53 <@jnsamyak:matrix.org> So for this, I am just have to create checksums again, so just putting it out there! 2024-03-19 16:14:16 <@jnsamyak:matrix.org> I was about to do them today but others things came :P 2024-03-19 16:14:28 <@jnsamyak:matrix.org> That's all from my end too! 2024-03-19 16:14:47 <@nirik:matrix.scrye.com> I have a few tickets I can propose closing... 2024-03-19 16:14:49 <@jnsamyak:matrix.org> wow this was a quick! :D 2024-03-19 16:14:54 <@jnsamyak:matrix.org> please please 2024-03-19 16:14:59 <@jnsamyak:matrix.org> we need less count 2024-03-19 16:15:59 <@nirik:matrix.scrye.com> so, we have a bunch of f40 change impact assessments... we can likely close those right? 2024-03-19 16:16:09 <@nirik:matrix.scrye.com> !releng 11669 2024-03-19 16:16:10 <@zodbot:fedora.im> **releng #11669** (https://pagure.io/releng/issue/11669):**F40 System-Wide Change: KDE Plasma 6** ● **Opened:** 6 months ago by ngompa ● **Last Updated:** 6 months ago ● **Assignee:** Not Assigned 2024-03-19 16:16:34 <@nirik:matrix.scrye.com> !releng 11790 2024-03-19 16:16:35 <@zodbot:fedora.im> **releng #11790** (https://pagure.io/releng/issue/11790):**F40 Self-Contained Change: Wget2 as Wget** ● **Opened:** 4 months ago by ngompa ● **Last Updated:** 3 months ago ● **Assignee:** Not Assigned 2024-03-19 16:16:37 <@jnsamyak:matrix.org> yep +1 2024-03-19 16:16:59 <@nirik:matrix.scrye.com> etc... there's a number more. 2024-03-19 16:17:08 <@nirik:matrix.scrye.com> would you like to close those, or want me to? 2024-03-19 16:17:46 <@jnsamyak:matrix.org> I can close them off and if there is something that involves us I'll discuss this with you 2024-03-19 16:18:18 <@nirik:matrix.scrye.com> ok. I think most of them are just the normal ticket required by the process to ask releng if there is any work needed on our part... 2024-03-19 16:18:19 <@humaton:fedora.im> !hi 2024-03-19 16:18:20 <@zodbot:fedora.im> Tomáš Hrčka (humaton) - he / him / his 2024-03-19 16:18:22 <@nirik:matrix.scrye.com> and often there is not. 2024-03-19 16:18:28 <@humaton:fedora.im> meybe just check if everything landed 2024-03-19 16:18:32 <@nirik:matrix.scrye.com> hey jednorozec! 2024-03-19 16:18:36 <@jnsamyak:matrix.org> yep 2024-03-19 16:18:55 <@jnsamyak:matrix.org> jednorozec: o/ 2024-03-19 16:18:57 <@humaton:fedora.im> it sometimes happens that change is deferred 2024-03-19 16:19:00 <@nirik:matrix.scrye.com> We can close the kiwi tickets: 2024-03-19 16:19:35 <@nirik:matrix.scrye.com> 11726 and one other one... 2024-03-19 16:19:43 <@jnsamyak:matrix.org> !releng 11854 2024-03-19 16:19:44 <@zodbot:fedora.im> **releng #11854** (https://pagure.io/releng/issue/11854):**F40 System-Wide Change: Build Fedora Cloud Edition Images Using Kiwi in Koji** ● **Opened:** 3 months ago by ngompa ● **Last Updated:** 2 months ago ● **Assignee:** Not Assigned 2024-03-19 16:20:10 <@nirik:matrix.scrye.com> yeah, that one too. 2024-03-19 16:20:58 <@nirik:matrix.scrye.com> you got those too? or want me to? 2024-03-19 16:21:16 <@jnsamyak:matrix.org> i closed these 2 already 2024-03-19 16:21:20 <@nirik:matrix.scrye.com> https://pagure.io/releng/issue/11921 seems misfiled... that should be an infra ticket... but I can try and just do it I guess. 2024-03-19 16:21:25 <@jnsamyak:matrix.org> but I'll check if there are more kiwi tickets 2024-03-19 16:22:03 <@nirik:matrix.scrye.com> https://pagure.io/releng/issue/11761 is another ticket on the checksum thing you were already fixing in that infra ticket? perhaps close it and point to the infra ticket? 2024-03-19 16:22:18 <@nirik:matrix.scrye.com> naw, no worries... just wanted to try and clean up some old ones. 2024-03-19 16:24:06 <@jnsamyak:matrix.org> Done 2024-03-19 16:24:57 <@jnsamyak:matrix.org> !releng 11845 2024-03-19 16:24:58 <@zodbot:fedora.im> **releng #11845** (https://pagure.io/releng/issue/11845):**F40 System-Wide Change: LLVM18** ● **Opened:** 3 months ago by tstellar ● **Last Updated:** 2 months ago ● **Assignee:** Not Assigned 2024-03-19 16:25:15 <@jnsamyak:matrix.org> I dont think we have anything else to do here 2024-03-19 16:25:20 <@nirik:matrix.scrye.com> that one can be closed... 2024-03-19 16:26:13 <@jnsamyak:matrix.org> !releng 11790 2024-03-19 16:26:16 <@zodbot:fedora.im> **releng #11790** (https://pagure.io/releng/issue/11790):**F40 Self-Contained Change: Wget2 as Wget** ● **Opened:** 4 months ago by ngompa ● **Last Updated:** 3 months ago ● **Assignee:** Not Assigned 2024-03-19 16:26:26 <@jnsamyak:matrix.org> We can close this as well, no releng impact here 2024-03-19 16:26:26 <@nirik:matrix.scrye.com> all done, and no impact on us -> close. ;) 2024-03-19 16:27:48 <@jnsamyak:matrix.org> !releng 11859 2024-03-19 16:27:50 <@zodbot:fedora.im> **releng #11859** (https://pagure.io/releng/issue/11859):** F40 System-Wide Change: java-21-openjdk as system JDK in F40** ● **Opened:** 3 months ago by pmikova ● **Last Updated:** 2 months ago ● **Assignee:** Not Assigned 2024-03-19 16:28:09 <@nirik:matrix.scrye.com> yep. also all done. This did have some releng impact, but not much... 2024-03-19 16:28:13 <@jnsamyak:matrix.org> I think we are done with this as well, we took care of all the sidetag issues that were opened for this 2024-03-19 16:30:16 <@jnsamyak:matrix.org> !releng 11865 2024-03-19 16:30:18 <@zodbot:fedora.im> **releng #11865** (https://pagure.io/releng/issue/11865):**F40 system-wide change: GNU Toolchain update for F40 https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/GNUToolchainF40** ● **Opened:** 3 months ago by codonell ● **Last Updated:** a month ago ● **Assignee:** Not Assigned 2024-03-19 16:31:37 <@nirik:matrix.scrye.com> also landed I am pretty sure... 2024-03-19 16:31:39 <@jnsamyak:matrix.org> I think this can asli we closed as the issue is resolved 2024-03-19 16:31:50 <@jnsamyak:matrix.org> the last comment by codonell verifies it 2024-03-19 16:32:22 <@jnsamyak:matrix.org> 2 more to go to make it below 100 :) 2024-03-19 16:32:55 <@jnsamyak:matrix.org> !releng 11669 2024-03-19 16:32:56 <@zodbot:fedora.im> **releng #11669** (https://pagure.io/releng/issue/11669):**F40 System-Wide Change: KDE Plasma 6** ● **Opened:** 6 months ago by ngompa ● **Last Updated:** 6 months ago ● **Assignee:** Not Assigned 2024-03-19 16:33:12 <@nirik:matrix.scrye.com> all done. I am using it right now. ;) 2024-03-19 16:33:14 <@jnsamyak:matrix.org> nothing to do here :) 2024-03-19 16:33:20 <@jnsamyak:matrix.org> ha! 2024-03-19 16:34:06 <@jnsamyak:matrix.org> so last from change tag is 2024-03-19 16:34:10 <@jnsamyak:matrix.org> !releng 11438 2024-03-19 16:34:11 <@zodbot:fedora.im> **releng #11438** (https://pagure.io/releng/issue/11438):**Build JDKs once, repack everywhere** ● **Opened:** 10 months ago by jvanek ● **Last Updated:** 3 months ago ● **Assignee:** Not Assigned 2024-03-19 16:34:53 <@nirik:matrix.scrye.com> this should also be done I think... 2024-03-19 16:35:08 <@jnsamyak:matrix.org> I am looking at the fesco ticket quickly 2024-03-19 16:35:12 <@nirik:matrix.scrye.com> but I am not 100% sure I guess. 2024-03-19 16:35:57 <@jnsamyak:matrix.org> !fesco 3035 2024-03-19 16:36:02 <@zodbot:fedora.im> **fesco #3035** (https://pagure.io/fesco/issue/3035):**Change: Build JDKs once, repack everywhere ** ● **Closed: Accepted** 8 months ago by tstellar ● **Opened:** 8 months ago by amoloney ● **Last Updated:** 7 months ago ● **Assignee:** jvanek 2024-03-19 16:36:54 <@jnsamyak:matrix.org> okay 😕 this just tells the change was accepted 2024-03-19 16:37:00 <@jnsamyak:matrix.org> need to check if it landed 2024-03-19 16:37:05 <@nirik:matrix.scrye.com> I'd propose closing it and asking them to re-open if they see anything left to do. 2024-03-19 16:37:31 <@nirik:matrix.scrye.com> I definitely see the portable builds in koji and they were used for all the other builds, so I am not sure what could be missing. 2024-03-19 16:37:46 <@jnsamyak:matrix.org> i dont think if we have something from releng side to do anyways 2024-03-19 16:38:13 <@nirik:matrix.scrye.com> yeah, we already did make the needed tags... 2024-03-19 16:38:59 <@jnsamyak:matrix.org> drumroll we made it under century 🎊 2024-03-19 16:39:20 <@nirik:matrix.scrye.com> a nice pychological number. ;) 2024-03-19 16:40:09 <@jnsamyak:matrix.org> I have some quick fixes branch deletion issue off hand, but that needs root access at batcave to get into package machine :) 2024-03-19 16:40:52 <@nirik:matrix.scrye.com> I could work with you on those sometime? 2024-03-19 16:41:04 <@jnsamyak:matrix.org> I'm happy tooo! 2024-03-19 16:41:22 <@jnsamyak:matrix.org> okay one thing to discuss if patrikp is around 2024-03-19 16:41:26 <@jnsamyak:matrix.org> !releng 11673 2024-03-19 16:41:27 <@zodbot:fedora.im> **releng #11673** (https://pagure.io/releng/issue/11673):**Fixes for release-candidate.sh in pungi-fedora** ● **Opened:** 6 months ago by kevin ● **Last Updated:** 5 months ago ● **Assignee:** patrikp 2024-03-19 16:41:39 <@jnsamyak:matrix.org> Do we have any updates on this? 2024-03-19 16:42:02 <@jnsamyak:matrix.org> are there any blockers that you want to discuss? 2024-03-19 16:42:26 <@nirik:matrix.scrye.com> oh yeah, I thought this might be close to ready... 2024-03-19 16:42:44 <@jnsamyak:matrix.org> well :) https://pagure.io/pungi-fedora/pull-request/1223 i see your comment as last here 2024-03-19 16:42:47 <@nirik:matrix.scrye.com> I mean we can try it for final rc's I guess? unless it needs more review? 2024-03-19 16:42:57 <@jnsamyak:matrix.org> i can check with him tomorrow i guess? 2024-03-19 16:43:10 <@nirik:matrix.scrye.com> oh yeah... some minor things. 2024-03-19 16:43:22 <@nirik:matrix.scrye.com> no hurry, the next time we would try it is final. 2024-03-19 16:43:45 <@jnsamyak:matrix.org> nirik: exactly that's why i'm more inclined to get this in, so atleast we can test it otherwise it will be no use until next release and will get stale 2024-03-19 16:43:59 <@nirik:matrix.scrye.com> it's tricky with something like this because we are always in a rush when doing rcs... so if it doesn't work right, we have to revert or fix it quickly. 2024-03-19 16:44:51 <@jnsamyak:matrix.org> but anyways let's move on... 2024-03-19 16:45:19 <@jnsamyak:matrix.org> !releng 11939 2024-03-19 16:45:21 <@zodbot:fedora.im> **releng #11939** (https://pagure.io/releng/issue/11939):**Fedora 40 Mass Branching Tracker** ● **Opened:** a month ago by jnsamyak ● **Last Updated:** a month ago ● **Assignee:** jnsamyak 2024-03-19 16:45:37 <@jnsamyak:matrix.org> I dont remember but I'm preety sure I intentionally kept it open for some reason 2024-03-19 16:46:31 <@jnsamyak:matrix.org> i guess there was no more issue that hit us later on, but i can search that up and will close this tomorrow wanted to make sure everything is recorded 2024-03-19 16:46:59 <@nirik:matrix.scrye.com> I think perhaps it was to make sure we had docs updated? 2024-03-19 16:47:57 <@jnsamyak:matrix.org> not sure but on me 2024-03-19 16:48:38 <@nirik:matrix.scrye.com> so, make sure each of the items listed are fixed in docs, then close I'd say 2024-03-19 16:48:53 <@jnsamyak:matrix.org> aye aye captain! 2024-03-19 16:49:03 <@jnsamyak:matrix.org> !releng 11775 2024-03-19 16:49:04 <@zodbot:fedora.im> **releng #11775** (https://pagure.io/releng/issue/11775):**Fix issue where updates-testing builds are never untagged pre GA** ● **Opened:** 4 months ago by yselkowitz ● **Last Updated:** 3 months ago ● **Assignee:** Not Assigned 2024-03-19 16:49:12 <@jnsamyak:matrix.org> IS there anything that i can help with here? 2024-03-19 16:50:13 <@nirik:matrix.scrye.com> let me try and swap this problem back into my brain 2024-03-19 16:51:37 <@nirik:matrix.scrye.com> yeah, so the problem is that we have a window where updates are tagged into updates-testing, but then never untagged... 2024-03-19 16:52:45 <@nirik:matrix.scrye.com> there's several possible fixes... we could just manually fix it at that point in the release. we could try and get bodhi to do it. we could make a toddler for it I guess (although that seems like overkill). 2024-03-19 16:53:11 <@nirik:matrix.scrye.com> not sure whats best. manual seems anoying... 2024-03-19 16:54:09 <@jnsamyak:matrix.org> okay my first question to understand the problem better: when you say we can manually fix them at point in release, when should be the right time for that? 2024-03-19 16:54:42 <@nirik:matrix.scrye.com> I'd have to think about it. ;) 2024-03-19 16:54:58 <@humaton:fedora.im> I think its after we have GOLD RC 2024-03-19 16:55:00 <@nirik:matrix.scrye.com> I think it's just before final/GA. 2024-03-19 16:55:05 <@nirik:matrix.scrye.com> yeah. 2024-03-19 16:55:32 <@jnsamyak:matrix.org> jednorozec: $$ XD 2024-03-19 16:55:33 <@humaton:fedora.im> so This should be fixed bodhi side 2024-03-19 16:56:11 <@nirik:matrix.scrye.com> but it's hardish to do there... 2024-03-19 16:56:17 <@nirik:matrix.scrye.com> I guess possible tho. 2024-03-19 16:56:19 <@humaton:fedora.im> once releng unfreeze the release some bodhi magick should kick in and tag stuff properly 2024-03-19 16:57:48 <@nirik:matrix.scrye.com> well, the problem is that we do want things tagged in both until there's a successfull stable compose... and bodhi doesn't have a easy way to know that in branched case. 2024-03-19 16:58:27 <@nirik:matrix.scrye.com> we could just punt and say 'if it's been tagged in for a week, and it's in stable, untag from testing' 2024-03-19 16:58:37 <@jnsamyak:matrix.org> this is definitely wrongly tagged this neither low-gain or low-trouble :) 2024-03-19 16:59:13 <@humaton:fedora.im> yeah solution for now its just to fix it manually 2024-03-19 16:59:18 <@nirik:matrix.scrye.com> well, the gain is that the updates-testing repo is smaller, less duplicated packages, but it's not usually a big problem 2024-03-19 16:59:40 <@humaton:fedora.im> but later on we should think of a way to tell bodhi, move the builds properly. 2024-03-19 17:00:42 <@jnsamyak:matrix.org> I'll put this summary discussion on the ticket as well, and see if I can put a quick note in https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/infra/release_guide/final_RC_compose/ here right? 2024-03-19 17:01:23 <@jnsamyak:matrix.org> whaat time flies and we were just getting started! 2024-03-19 17:02:10 <@jnsamyak:matrix.org> We can take this & more for the next meeting, hopefully we have beta released by then :) 2024-03-19 17:03:06 <@nirik:matrix.scrye.com> 🤞 2024-03-19 17:03:20 <@jnsamyak:matrix.org> just fyi I'll be away next monday and friday due to indian (festival of colour); I'll be here on tuesday, but in case of less fires I'll take wednesday and thrusday off to chill off 2024-03-19 17:03:44 <@jnsamyak:matrix.org> Okay then! 2024-03-19 17:03:45 <@jnsamyak:matrix.org> !info Thank you all for coming. 2024-03-19 17:03:52 <@jnsamyak:matrix.org> !endmeeting