2024-07-16 16:02:21 <@jnsamyak:matrix.org> !startmeeting RELENG (2024-07-16)

2024-07-16 16:02:29 <@meetbot:fedora.im> Meeting started at 2024-07-16 16:02:21 UTC
2024-07-16 16:02:29 <@meetbot:fedora.im> The Meeting name is 'RELENG (2024-07-16)'
2024-07-16 16:02:30 <@jnsamyak:matrix.org> !meetingname releng
2024-07-16 16:02:31 <@meetbot:fedora.im> The Meeting Name is now releng
2024-07-16 16:02:39 <@nirik:matrix.scrye.com> morning.
2024-07-16 16:02:44 <@jnsamyak:matrix.org> !chair nirik phsmoura dustymabe jednorozec jnsamyak patrikp
2024-07-16 16:02:52 <@jnsamyak:matrix.org> !info agenda is at https://hackmd.io/vm6biLBcTYKtkQUH5kQkmw
2024-07-16 16:02:52 <@jnsamyak:matrix.org> !info Meeting is 60 minutes MAX. At the end of 60, it stops
2024-07-16 16:02:54 <@patrikp:matrix.org> Hi. 👋
2024-07-16 16:03:08 <@jnsamyak:matrix.org> Hello folks how is everyone doing today?
2024-07-16 16:03:42 <@patrikp:matrix.org> Heatwave is brutal and no AC. But good. 👍️
2024-07-16 16:03:43 <@jnsamyak:matrix.org> Let's start with the first topic of the meeting :D
2024-07-16 16:04:00 <@jnsamyak:matrix.org> patrikp: same same with ac then also sweating :D
2024-07-16 16:04:10 <@nirik:matrix.scrye.com> yeah, hot here too, but I do have ac. ;)
2024-07-16 16:04:22 <@jnsamyak:matrix.org> !topic init process
2024-07-16 16:04:29 <@jnsamyak:matrix.org> Do we have anything for the init? Any blockers, tasks, issues, requests, features that needs releng intervention?
2024-07-16 16:04:56 <@jnsamyak:matrix.org> I have things around rebuild, but I'll cover it in our next topic
2024-07-16 16:07:11 <@jnsamyak:matrix.org> if not less
2024-07-16 16:07:13 <@jnsamyak:matrix.org> move on
2024-07-16 16:07:18 <@jnsamyak:matrix.org> in 3
2024-07-16 16:07:19 <@jnsamyak:matrix.org> 2
2024-07-16 16:07:21 <@jnsamyak:matrix.org> 1
2024-07-16 16:07:22 <@jnsamyak:matrix.org> :D
2024-07-16 16:07:33 <@jnsamyak:matrix.org> !topic scheduled actions coming up in the next week
2024-07-16 16:07:38 <@jnsamyak:matrix.org> !info Here we list/discuss anything about items that are due to be done in the next week
2024-07-16 16:07:49 <@jnsamyak:matrix.org> !info F41 mass rebuild is scheduled for tomorrow
2024-07-16 16:07:52 <@nirik:matrix.scrye.com> not much scheduled right? oh wait...
2024-07-16 16:08:30 <@jnsamyak:matrix.org> Do we have any known brokers? Any request CVEs like last time that we need to take care of? Any updates etc that needs to go in before the rebuild starts?
2024-07-16 16:08:47 <@jnsamyak:matrix.org> Otherwise, I have opened an issue tracker at releng to track all the thing
2024-07-16 16:09:06 <@jnsamyak:matrix.org> !releng 12195
2024-07-16 16:09:07 <@zodbot:fedora.im> ● **Assignee:** jnsamyak
2024-07-16 16:09:07 <@zodbot:fedora.im> ● **Last Updated:** 7 hours ago
2024-07-16 16:09:07 <@zodbot:fedora.im> ● **Opened:** 6 days ago by jnsamyak
2024-07-16 16:09:07 <@zodbot:fedora.im> 
2024-07-16 16:09:07 <@zodbot:fedora.im> **releng #12195** (https://pagure.io/releng/issue/12195):**Fedora 41 Mass Rebuild Tracker**
2024-07-16 16:09:20 <@nirik:matrix.scrye.com> so, there's one thing to note:
2024-07-16 16:09:45 <@nirik:matrix.scrye.com> on the devel list the fmt maintainer is pushing a new fmt version... they built some things in a side tag and made a bodhi update...
2024-07-16 16:10:01 <@nirik:matrix.scrye.com> but it's stuck in gating. We need to make sure thats in rawhide or reverted before the mass rebuild.
2024-07-16 16:10:12 <@jnsamyak:matrix.org> Ansible one is merged, and i guess ran also; the koji tags and target are created ofcourse
2024-07-16 16:10:12 <@jnsamyak:matrix.org> The PRs at releng is also ready if someone can review it: https://pagure.io/releng/pull-request/12206
2024-07-16 16:10:24 <@nirik:matrix.scrye.com> https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/devel@lists.fedoraproject.org/message/2SC327B3FNRGQV6VQRIDTD7J3PLD7J2C/>
2024-07-16 16:10:27 <@jnsamyak:matrix.org> Do you happen to have a bodhi link for that handy?
2024-07-16 16:10:32 <@jnsamyak:matrix.org> nirik: thanls
2024-07-16 16:10:34 <@jnsamyak:matrix.org> nirik: thanks
2024-07-16 16:11:28 <@nirik:matrix.scrye.com> it's in that thread.
2024-07-16 16:11:52 <@nirik:matrix.scrye.com> The PR looks good, except... missing the tracking_bug? do we have a tracking bug?
2024-07-16 16:12:20 <@jnsamyak:matrix.org> Also last time, folks reached out after the rebuilt and was not happy that some of the ocaml packges were built, I opened the tracker and sent an email about the functionality to skip it on devel-announce(needs moderator approval, yesterday mail was crashed) and at releng mailing list
2024-07-16 16:12:29 <@nirik:matrix.scrye.com> oh, it's already there.
2024-07-16 16:12:30 <@nirik:matrix.scrye.com> nevermind me
2024-07-16 16:12:36 <@jnsamyak:matrix.org> nirik: i added a tracking a bug is it not there?
2024-07-16 16:12:38 <@jnsamyak:matrix.org> hehe
2024-07-16 16:13:37 <@nirik:matrix.scrye.com> The posts were acked... seems they posted to me.
2024-07-16 16:14:01 <@jnsamyak:matrix.org> ah i cant see it yes
2024-07-16 16:14:08 <@nirik:matrix.scrye.com> except... what? the bug is moved to f40? that looks like a mistake.
2024-07-16 16:14:11 <@jnsamyak:matrix.org> !link https://bodhi.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-2024-bcf368c2e9
2024-07-16 16:14:57 <@jnsamyak:matrix.org> the update seemed to f41
2024-07-16 16:15:04 <@jnsamyak:matrix.org> am i missing something here?
2024-07-16 16:15:24 <@nirik:matrix.scrye.com> no, the bugzilla bug I meant... it got moved to f40... it's the f41 fails to build from source bug...
2024-07-16 16:15:50 <@jnsamyak:matrix.org> let me check
2024-07-16 16:16:55 <@nirik:matrix.scrye.com> I can move it back... or you can... but we need to fix the bug in the scripts that moved it.
2024-07-16 16:17:12 <@patrikp:matrix.org> !link https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2260875
2024-07-16 16:17:14 <@jnsamyak:matrix.org> https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=F41FTBFS
2024-07-16 16:17:15 <@nirik:matrix.scrye.com> so, yeah, the /sbin merge thing is also a problem for the mass rebuild.
2024-07-16 16:17:31 <@jnsamyak:matrix.org> the bug id is 2260875
2024-07-16 16:18:55 <@jnsamyak:matrix.org> i think the bug_id seems right?
2024-07-16 16:19:50 <@nirik:matrix.scrye.com> yes, thats all right.
2024-07-16 16:19:59 <@nirik:matrix.scrye.com> it's the "version: 40" thats wrong
2024-07-16 16:20:11 <@jnsamyak:matrix.org> ahhhhhhh
2024-07-16 16:20:11 <@nirik:matrix.scrye.com> and the comments about it being moved from rawhide.
2024-07-16 16:20:11 <@markrosenbaum:fedora.im> It says version 40 though, when it should be 41
2024-07-16 16:20:39 <@patrikp:matrix.org> Looks like Aoife changed it manually.
2024-07-16 16:20:39 <@patrikp:matrix.org> "This bug appears to have been reported against 'rawhide' during the Fedora Linux 40 development cycle.
2024-07-16 16:20:39 <@patrikp:matrix.org> Changing version to 40."
2024-07-16 16:21:19 <@jnsamyak:matrix.org> I'll update it
2024-07-16 16:21:21 <@nirik:matrix.scrye.com> thats a script that does that. ;)
2024-07-16 16:21:35 <@nirik:matrix.scrye.com> I have no idea why it hit this bug tho. It should have left it alone.
2024-07-16 16:21:42 <@jnsamyak:matrix.org> thanks folks, i thought we are talking about the pr changes
2024-07-16 16:21:53 <@nirik:matrix.scrye.com> sorry...
2024-07-16 16:22:52 <@jnsamyak:matrix.org> nirik: can i update it manually for now, and look which scripts does it and fix later?
2024-07-16 16:23:26 <@nirik:matrix.scrye.com> yep.
2024-07-16 16:23:35 <@nirik:matrix.scrye.com> or just ask Aoife to look into it.
2024-07-16 16:23:50 <@jnsamyak:matrix.org> circling back to this
2024-07-16 16:24:08 <@jnsamyak:matrix.org> !link https://bodhi.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-2024-3aafcac6a8
2024-07-16 16:24:22 <@jnsamyak:matrix.org> the update regarding this change is also in testing state
2024-07-16 16:25:10 <@nirik:matrix.scrye.com> right. this is sbin merge...
2024-07-16 16:25:18 <@nirik:matrix.scrye.com> see this devel list thread: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/devel@lists.fedoraproject.org/message/EOKNNAMSTPNFVKU3WQ3R42HFXKE6QLJS/
2024-07-16 16:25:33 <@nirik:matrix.scrye.com> there's discussion about reverting it and doing it in f42 instead
2024-07-16 16:25:55 <@nirik:matrix.scrye.com> but that needs to happen before the mass rebuild.
2024-07-16 16:25:57 <@jnsamyak:matrix.org> yeah from the karma list and comments it seems like it wont be fixed in next 24 hours
2024-07-16 16:26:46 <@nirik:matrix.scrye.com> yeah, there's a lot of weird corner cases it's been hitting.
2024-07-16 16:27:19 <@jnsamyak:matrix.org> yeah but reading quickly i saw it's been worked in a side tag right?
2024-07-16 16:27:30 <@jnsamyak:matrix.org> or is that merged to main rawhide (f41 tag)?
2024-07-16 16:27:52 <@nirik:matrix.scrye.com> yes, but that doesn't matter. If we run the mass rebuild now, it will pick up all those changes in the newly mass rebuilt packages.
2024-07-16 16:28:01 <@nirik:matrix.scrye.com> since they are from the same git/source...
2024-07-16 16:28:33 <@jnsamyak:matrix.org> nirik: since you already shot an email about it, can you take a follow up about this saying we have a rebuild happening tomorrow? 
2024-07-16 16:28:42 <@jnsamyak:matrix.org> Aha :/
2024-07-16 16:29:38 <@nirik:matrix.scrye.com> yeah, I replied to the thread.
2024-07-16 16:29:49 <@nirik:matrix.scrye.com> we just need to make sure it's dealt with before firing off the mass rebuild
2024-07-16 16:30:02 <@jnsamyak:matrix.org> i can do the email as well, otherwise, and will add a comment in the mass rebuild tracker about these two changes first one needs to be checked if it made it in one peice and the last one should be reverted
2024-07-16 16:30:03 <@nirik:matrix.scrye.com> might note these things in the ticket.
2024-07-16 16:30:20 <@jnsamyak:matrix.org> yeah last time it took 10 tries for mass rebuild 
2024-07-16 16:30:37 <@jnsamyak:matrix.org> nirik: same minds and thanks for following up
2024-07-16 16:31:15 <@jnsamyak:matrix.org> !action jnsamyak to update the mass rebuild tracker to look at the updates status of change before firing mass rebuild
2024-07-16 16:31:31 <@jnsamyak:matrix.org> anything else, regarding this or release process?
2024-07-16 16:31:45 <@nirik:matrix.scrye.com> I added some comment to the PR...
2024-07-16 16:32:27 <@jnsamyak:matrix.org> will do thanks
2024-07-16 16:32:31 <@nirik:matrix.scrye.com> nothing else I can think of. Oh...
2024-07-16 16:32:49 <@jnsamyak:matrix.org> shooot :D
2024-07-16 16:32:58 <@nirik:matrix.scrye.com> do we want to ping the tools people directly (glibc/gcc) and confirm they are ready? we often do... but then they often tell us if there's a reason to wait.
2024-07-16 16:33:34 <@jnsamyak:matrix.org> ofcourse, do we have a channel dedicated for this?
2024-07-16 16:33:46 <@jnsamyak:matrix.org> or generally whom to tag?
2024-07-16 16:33:56 <@nirik:matrix.scrye.com> we used to try and get a hold of them internally... but that was in the irc days, not sure now.
2024-07-16 16:34:09 <@nirik:matrix.scrye.com> I can try and look.
2024-07-16 16:34:15 <@jnsamyak:matrix.org> I can check with jednorozec in my morning tomorrow
2024-07-16 16:35:34 <@nirik:matrix.scrye.com> oh yeah, he may know.
2024-07-16 16:35:45 <@nirik:matrix.scrye.com> looks like it might just be a #tools internally... but not sure.
2024-07-16 16:35:53 <@jnsamyak:matrix.org> okay let's go t
2024-07-16 16:36:00 <@jnsamyak:matrix.org> okay let's go
2024-07-16 16:36:13 <@jnsamyak:matrix.org> !topic Tickets needing attention
2024-07-16 16:36:18 <@jnsamyak:matrix.org> !info this is the time where you can bring releng tickets to discuss if there are blockers etc
2024-07-16 16:37:28 <@patrikp:matrix.org> I had a quick question. From the release schedule, it says that today should be the day to review change proposals. When and where does that happen?
2024-07-16 16:37:43 <@patrikp:matrix.org> https://fedorapeople.org/groups/schedule/f-41/f-41-all-tasks.html
2024-07-16 16:37:43 <@patrikp:matrix.org> 
2024-07-16 16:37:43 <@patrikp:matrix.org> Step 38.
2024-07-16 16:39:03 <@nirik:matrix.scrye.com> I am not sure what that is for... fesco reviews change proposals...
2024-07-16 16:39:10 <@nirik:matrix.scrye.com> there's a process...
2024-07-16 16:39:24 <@jnsamyak:matrix.org> from what i know, when a change proposals, aoife (fedora arch) sends an email and a fesco ticket it is created; and fesco people/fedora council decides in the fesco meeting 
2024-07-16 16:39:35 <@jnsamyak:matrix.org> but it happens as the change comes
2024-07-16 16:39:47 <@jnsamyak:matrix.org> so nothing as specific that happens today
2024-07-16 16:39:50 <@patrikp:matrix.org> Ah, probably meant as a deadline then. (in the schedule)
2024-07-16 16:39:58 <@jnsamyak:matrix.org> yeah
2024-07-16 16:40:01 <@patrikp:matrix.org> Thanks.
2024-07-16 16:40:11 <@nirik:matrix.scrye.com> https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/program_management/changes_policy/
2024-07-16 16:40:24 <@nirik:matrix.scrye.com> yeah, today is the deadline for submitting self contained changes.
2024-07-16 16:42:49 <@jnsamyak:matrix.org> okay tickets
2024-07-16 16:42:53 <@jnsamyak:matrix.org> !releng 12207
2024-07-16 16:42:58 <@zodbot:fedora.im> ● **Opened:** 5 hours ago by ngompa
2024-07-16 16:42:58 <@zodbot:fedora.im> ● **Last Updated:** 4 hours ago
2024-07-16 16:42:58 <@zodbot:fedora.im> ● **Assignee:** Not Assigned
2024-07-16 16:42:58 <@zodbot:fedora.im> **releng #12207** (https://pagure.io/releng/issue/12207):**F41 Self-Contained Change: LXQt 2.0**
2024-07-16 16:42:58 <@zodbot:fedora.im> 
2024-07-16 16:44:22 <@jnsamyak:matrix.org> i went through this today and didnt seem like it will affect releng and it's process
2024-07-16 16:44:50 <@jnsamyak:matrix.org> close it?
2024-07-16 16:47:12 <@nirik:matrix.scrye.com> yeah. thanks and close
2024-07-16 16:48:10 <@jnsamyak:matrix.org> pagure is super slow today
2024-07-16 16:48:17 <@jnsamyak:matrix.org> or it might be just me
2024-07-16 16:48:34 <@nirik:matrix.scrye.com> it seems under a lot of load.
2024-07-16 16:49:04 <@jnsamyak:matrix.org> do we happen to know why? 
2024-07-16 16:49:29 <@jnsamyak:matrix.org> i have some more tickets, but it loads like it's on 10 mbps
2024-07-16 16:49:33 <@jnsamyak:matrix.org> !releng 12187
2024-07-16 16:49:35 <@zodbot:fedora.im> ● **Opened:** a week ago by gordonmessmer
2024-07-16 16:49:35 <@zodbot:fedora.im> **releng #12187** (https://pagure.io/releng/issue/12187):**Permissions on the root dir in AWS AMI have changed**
2024-07-16 16:49:35 <@zodbot:fedora.im> 
2024-07-16 16:49:35 <@zodbot:fedora.im> ● **Last Updated:** a week ago
2024-07-16 16:49:35 <@zodbot:fedora.im> ● **Assignee:** Not Assigned
2024-07-16 16:50:37 <@jnsamyak:matrix.org> I'm not sure how to debug this ;/
2024-07-16 16:51:10 <@nirik:matrix.scrye.com> I'm blocking some crawlers/abusive ips...
2024-07-16 16:51:32 <@nirik:matrix.scrye.com> I am not sure either.
2024-07-16 16:51:40 <@jnsamyak:matrix.org> that remids me
2024-07-16 16:51:42 <@nirik:matrix.scrye.com> we should perhaps mention davdunc there...
2024-07-16 16:51:52 <@nirik:matrix.scrye.com> and the cloud sig in general.
2024-07-16 16:52:05 <@jnsamyak:matrix.org> i opened a ticket at infra today weird bot account sends me a message that your ticket has a service request etc
2024-07-16 16:52:12 <@jnsamyak:matrix.org> which was probably a spam
2024-07-16 16:53:03 <@nirik:matrix.scrye.com> well, I think it was someone that misconfigured their autoresponder...
2024-07-16 16:53:07 <@nirik:matrix.scrye.com> but it could also be spam.
2024-07-16 16:53:23 <@jnsamyak:matrix.org> it was spam from a weird account
2024-07-16 16:53:44 <@nirik:matrix.scrye.com> well, it's unclear to me at least
2024-07-16 16:54:03 <@nirik:matrix.scrye.com> I mean, what the motives were... if it was an accident or deliberate.
2024-07-16 16:54:14 <@nirik:matrix.scrye.com> I did mail the user with no response tho
2024-07-16 16:54:49 <@jnsamyak:matrix.org> oh okay
2024-07-16 16:55:22 <@jnsamyak:matrix.org> !releng 12077
2024-07-16 16:55:25 <@zodbot:fedora.im> 
2024-07-16 16:55:25 <@zodbot:fedora.im> **releng #12077** (https://pagure.io/releng/issue/12077):**F41 Self-Contained Change: Fedora Miracle spin**
2024-07-16 16:55:25 <@zodbot:fedora.im> ● **Opened:** 3 months ago by mattkae
2024-07-16 16:55:25 <@zodbot:fedora.im> ● **Assignee:** Not Assigned
2024-07-16 16:55:25 <@zodbot:fedora.im> ● **Last Updated:** 3 weeks ago
2024-07-16 16:55:28 <@jnsamyak:matrix.org> I'm planning to close this
2024-07-16 16:55:45 <@jnsamyak:matrix.org> no response
2024-07-16 16:56:10 <@nirik:matrix.scrye.com> no reply on the infra ticket about the sig group either
2024-07-16 16:56:48 <@nirik:matrix.scrye.com> there's a accepted f41 change tho...
2024-07-16 16:57:10 <@jnsamyak:matrix.org> let's wait then if something comes up :)
2024-07-16 16:57:20 <@nirik:matrix.scrye.com> anyhow, only 3min left and I have a fesco meeting starting then
2024-07-16 16:57:30 <@jnsamyak:matrix.org> !releng !releng 12129
2024-07-16 16:57:32 <@zodbot:fedora.im> Issue querying Pagure: Issue not found
2024-07-16 16:57:39 <@jnsamyak:matrix.org> !releng 12129
2024-07-16 16:57:41 <@jnsamyak:matrix.org> this 
2024-07-16 16:57:41 <@zodbot:fedora.im> **releng #12129** (https://pagure.io/releng/issue/12129):**Missing i686 package**
2024-07-16 16:57:41 <@zodbot:fedora.im> ● **Opened:** a month ago by jexposit
2024-07-16 16:57:41 <@zodbot:fedora.im> ● **Last Updated:** 53 seconds ago
2024-07-16 16:57:41 <@zodbot:fedora.im> ● **Assignee:** jnsamyak
2024-07-16 16:57:41 <@zodbot:fedora.im> 
2024-07-16 16:57:54 <@jnsamyak:matrix.org> can be closed right the pr on bodhi and pungi are merged for this
2024-07-16 16:58:22 <@nirik:matrix.scrye.com> +1
2024-07-16 16:58:35 <@jnsamyak:matrix.org> awesome
2024-07-16 16:58:37 <@jnsamyak:matrix.org> !topic choose next chair
2024-07-16 16:58:41 <@jnsamyak:matrix.org> !info next chair Jul 16 - Samyak
2024-07-16 16:58:56 <@jnsamyak:matrix.org> any volunteers or i can take next week?
2024-07-16 16:59:04 <@patrikp:matrix.org> I should be here, I can chair it.
2024-07-16 16:59:12 <@jnsamyak:matrix.org> sold then
2024-07-16 16:59:33 <@jnsamyak:matrix.org> !info next chair Jul 23 - Patrik
2024-07-16 16:59:46 <@jnsamyak:matrix.org> time check and we are almost at it
2024-07-16 16:59:47 <@jnsamyak:matrix.org> !info Thank you all for coming.
2024-07-16 16:59:53 <@jnsamyak:matrix.org> !endmeeting