2026-03-23 15:05:21 <@amedvede:fedora.im> !startmeeting RELENG (2026-03-23) 2026-03-23 15:05:23 <@meetbot:fedora.im> Meeting started at 2026-03-23 15:05:21 UTC 2026-03-23 15:05:24 <@meetbot:fedora.im> The Meeting name is 'RELENG (2026-03-23)' 2026-03-23 15:05:36 <@amedvede:fedora.im> !meetingname releng 2026-03-23 15:05:37 <@meetbot:fedora.im> The Meeting Name is now releng 2026-03-23 15:05:42 <@amedvede:fedora.im> !chair nirik jnsamyak patrikp amedvede 2026-03-23 15:05:48 <@amedvede:fedora.im> !info Meeting is 60 minutes MAX. At the end of 60, it STOPS. 2026-03-23 15:05:55 <@amedvede:fedora.im> !info Agenda is at https://hackmd.io/vm6biLBcTYKtkQUH5kQkmw. 2026-03-23 15:06:00 <@amedvede:fedora.im> !topic Init process. 2026-03-23 15:06:06 <@amedvede:fedora.im> Do we have anything for the init? Any blockers/tasks/issues/requests/features that need releng intervention? 2026-03-23 15:06:15 <@nirik:matrix.scrye.com> morning 2026-03-23 15:06:25 <@amedvede:fedora.im> hey hey 2026-03-23 15:07:24 <@amedvede:fedora.im> so, do we have anything for init? 2026-03-23 15:09:10 <@patrikp:matrix.org> Hello. 2026-03-23 15:09:12 <@jnsamyak:matrix.org> nothing from my end, but we will be testing out the unretirement toddler this week right anton? 2026-03-23 15:09:33 <@patrikp:matrix.org> Nothing for init. 2026-03-23 15:09:43 <@jnsamyak:matrix.org> in terms of highlight, and nirik i would be moving fedora-comps this week so ansible and other prs might be on the way 2026-03-23 15:09:48 <@patrikp:matrix.org> Not sure exactly what the purpose of init is, though. 2026-03-23 15:10:06 <@nirik:matrix.scrye.com> jnsamyak: cool. 2026-03-23 15:10:21 <@nirik:matrix.scrye.com> Note we have a mass update/reboot cycle (outage on wed)... just FYI 2026-03-23 15:10:39 <@jnsamyak:matrix.org> "Any blockers/tasks/issues/requests/features that need releng intervention?" -> anything that in summary you wantr to bring to the meeting, what was cool thing that got done, what will be the goal etc etc 2026-03-23 15:10:59 <@jnsamyak:matrix.org> basically to keep community folks in loop 2026-03-23 15:11:05 <@jnsamyak:matrix.org> noted thanks 2026-03-23 15:11:55 <@patrikp:matrix.org> It's by no means perfect but should provide a "good enough" foundation for next branching where we'll have the chance to improve it further. 2026-03-23 15:11:55 <@patrikp:matrix.org> https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/infra/release_guide/sop_mass_branching/ 2026-03-23 15:11:55 <@patrikp:matrix.org> 2026-03-23 15:11:55 <@patrikp:matrix.org> In that case, the new mass branching SOP is now live. 2026-03-23 15:12:20 <@nirik:matrix.scrye.com> 🎊 2026-03-23 15:12:31 <@jnsamyak:matrix.org> that is good 2026-03-23 15:13:54 <@amedvede:fedora.im> so also, I'm curious who can trigger the ci tests on PR, and why its implemented that its not triggerd automatically 2026-03-23 15:14:31 <@nirik:matrix.scrye.com> I think it's set to members of the repo by default. 2026-03-23 15:14:55 <@nirik:matrix.scrye.com> to prevent random people from submitting dangerous PR's and running the ci on them before anyone can do anything... 2026-03-23 15:15:16 <@amedvede:fedora.im> okay sound reasonable 2026-03-23 15:15:58 <@amedvede:fedora.im> so for example in context of apps repo who is the person that can add me? https://forge.fedoraproject.org/org/apps/members 2026-03-23 15:16:31 <@amedvede:fedora.im> like is there any main admin who can add/remove people, or all members can do it? 2026-03-23 15:16:53 <@nirik:matrix.scrye.com> anyone in https://forge.fedoraproject.org/org/apps/teams/owners usually. 2026-03-23 15:16:58 <@nirik:matrix.scrye.com> I can add you 2026-03-23 15:17:28 <@amedvede:fedora.im> it gives me 404 unfortunatly 2026-03-23 15:17:46 <@nirik:matrix.scrye.com> huh. 2026-03-23 15:17:58 <@amedvede:fedora.im> thanks, don't you mind to also add me to infra repo as well? 2026-03-23 15:18:07 <@jnsamyak:matrix.org> +1 2026-03-23 15:18:33 <@amedvede:fedora.im> when making PRs for Ansble its good to be able to run ci myself) 2026-03-23 15:18:44 <@jnsamyak:matrix.org> https://forge.fedoraproject.org/org/apps/members 2026-03-23 15:18:51 <@nirik:matrix.scrye.com> done 2026-03-23 15:19:03 <@nirik:matrix.scrye.com> oh right, it's at the org level 2026-03-23 15:19:09 <@jnsamyak:matrix.org> I think owners are hiddens 2026-03-23 15:19:18 <@jnsamyak:matrix.org> I think owners are hidden 2026-03-23 15:20:11 <@smoliicek:fedora.im> any member should be able to aprove the CI runs (i can as a member in the infra org aprove the CI runs on PRs to ansible) 2026-03-23 15:20:33 <@nirik:matrix.scrye.com> yeah. 2026-03-23 15:20:58 <@nirik:matrix.scrye.com> but by default it's members I think (barring any added perms added by another member) 2026-03-23 15:21:50 <@amedvede:fedora.im> thanks, i can see myself in the list now 2026-03-23 15:24:01 <@amedvede:fedora.im> also, compose-tracker and failed-composed (renamed to compose-tracker-issues) is migrated, i will merge ansible pr today, so there will be need to run a compose-tracker playbook and hopefully it will work after that 2026-03-23 15:24:26 <@amedvede:fedora.im> thats it for init from me 2026-03-23 15:24:31 <@amedvede:fedora.im> moving next? 2026-03-23 15:24:52 <@jnsamyak:matrix.org> Anton Medvedev: please make sure to send an email also on devel about the migration 2026-03-23 15:25:06 <@jnsamyak:matrix.org> so folks know that it is moving 2026-03-23 15:26:13 <@amedvede:fedora.im> oh yeah, forgot about that actually) 2026-03-23 15:26:19 <@amedvede:fedora.im> !topic Choose next chair. 2026-03-23 15:26:27 <@amedvede:fedora.im> soo 2026-03-23 15:27:07 <@patrikp:matrix.org> I can host. But if someone else wants to try it feel free to. 2026-03-23 15:27:46 <@jnsamyak:matrix.org> I'm not here next monday just fyi, will be here for final freeze otherwise I'm on pto for the week 2026-03-23 15:27:48 <@amedvede:fedora.im> i can take it if you want because u had 2 chairs in a raw, but if you okay with that i can put you as well 2026-03-23 15:27:53 <@jnsamyak:matrix.org> I'm not here next monday just fyi, will be here for final freeze day otherwise I'm on pto for the week 2026-03-23 15:28:25 <@patrikp:matrix.org> And Anton and I won't be here the Monday after that. 2026-03-23 15:28:34 <@patrikp:matrix.org> Sure, go ahead. 👍️ 2026-03-23 15:28:54 <@patrikp:matrix.org> As in, feel free to take it next week. 2026-03-23 15:29:30 <@amedvede:fedora.im> oh yeah easter 2026-03-23 15:29:56 <@amedvede:fedora.im> okay i'll put myself for next week and week after that both Patrik and me will be celebrating 2026-03-23 15:30:08 <@amedvede:fedora.im> !info Next chair March 30th: Anton 2026-03-23 15:31:28 <@amedvede:fedora.im> !topic Scheduled actions coming up in the next week. 2026-03-23 15:31:35 <@amedvede:fedora.im> !link https://fedorapeople.org/groups/schedule/f-44/f-44-releng-tasks.html 2026-03-23 15:31:35 <@amedvede:fedora.im> !info Here we list/discuss anything about items that are due to be done in the next week. 2026-03-23 15:32:29 <@amedvede:fedora.im> we have final freeze planned for next Tue 2026-03-23 15:32:34 <@patrikp:matrix.org> Final freeze time soon! 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What upload? 2026-03-23 15:42:54 <@patrikp:matrix.org> I was trying to read through the email thread but it's way over my head. 2026-03-23 15:43:18 <@patrikp:matrix.org> Where Cisco were discussing it with leads from other projects. Not gonna lie, can't gather much intel from that conversation. 2026-03-23 15:43:41 <@patrikp:matrix.org> My question is, how/where can we upload the RPMs? 2026-03-23 15:44:06 <@nirik:matrix.scrye.com> it was in that thread. I can look and find it and send it to you out of meeting 2026-03-23 15:44:49 <@patrikp:matrix.org> Coordination on OpenH264 Binaries Distribution Migration to AWS S3/CloudFront 2026-03-23 15:44:49 <@patrikp:matrix.org> Yes please and thank you. The thread is titled: 2026-03-23 15:46:46 <@patrikp:matrix.org> I don't really have questions about other tickets at this time. 2026-03-23 15:46:53 <@amedvede:fedora.im> where this discussion is happening? 2026-03-23 15:47:05 <@amedvede:fedora.im> i count find it in my mail list 2026-03-23 15:47:15 <@nirik:matrix.scrye.com> the openh264? it was a long while back... 2026-03-23 15:47:22 <@nirik:matrix.scrye.com> may of last year? 2026-03-23 15:47:36 <@amedvede:fedora.im> oh, that long, okay 2026-03-23 15:48:26 <@patrikp:matrix.org> Would you mind talking about the OpenH264 stuff in a Slack thread Kevin? Since patents and all that. I will take this opportunity to also update the SOP. 2026-03-23 15:48:33 <@amedvede:fedora.im> i also dont have questions regarding tickets, i kinda sorted out the workload for this week on 1:1 with Samyak this morning 2026-03-23 15:48:52 <@amedvede:fedora.im> lets move to openfloor 2026-03-23 15:48:54 <@patrikp:matrix.org> I know you prefer Matrix which I'm open to I suppose. 2026-03-23 15:49:11 <@amedvede:fedora.im> !topic Discussion / Any other business / Open floor. 2026-03-23 15:50:01 <@amedvede:fedora.im> so about this migration 2026-03-23 15:50:29 <@amedvede:fedora.im> are we moving OpenH264 from our servers to AWS? 2026-03-23 15:51:58 <@amedvede:fedora.im> if so, do we have access to aws admin panel, or how the process suppose to look like? 2026-03-23 15:52:02 <@amedvede:fedora.im> just curious 2026-03-23 15:53:02 <@patrikp:matrix.org> No, Cisco was changing how they do things, it's not related to Fedora. 2026-03-23 15:53:29 <@patrikp:matrix.org> https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/infra/releng_misc_guide/sop_openh264/#_legal_background 2026-03-23 15:53:43 <@nirik:matrix.scrye.com> found the link, sent it to patrikp in a dm 2026-03-23 15:53:43 <@nirik:matrix.scrye.com> (I don't think we should ever make the link public) 2026-03-23 15:53:43 <@nirik:matrix.scrye.com> sure, I can answer whereever you prefer. 2026-03-23 15:54:44 <@patrikp:matrix.org> Yeah. 2026-03-23 15:55:09 <@nirik:matrix.scrye.com> yeah, they were moving to aws... thats all on their side. 2026-03-23 15:55:25 <@patrikp:matrix.org> Anton Medvedev It was a discussion between Cisco and other projects. 2026-03-23 15:55:25 <@patrikp:matrix.org> Let's continue the discussion in the DMs here then, works for me. 👍️ 2026-03-23 15:57:42 <@amedvede:fedora.im> okay, got this 2026-03-23 15:58:05 <@amedvede:fedora.im> so lets finish this meet and have 3 minutes for enjoying our lifes 2026-03-23 15:58:21 <@amedvede:fedora.im> !info Thank you all for coming! 2026-03-23 15:58:25 <@patrikp:matrix.org> Have a good rest of the day everyone. 2026-03-23 15:58:27 <@amedvede:fedora.im> !endmeeting