19:00:42 <jonar> #startmeeting
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19:01:02 <jonar> #topic UK Ambassadors meeting
19:01:55 <jonar> #topic Roll call
19:02:29 <jonar> #meetingname UK Ambassadors
19:02:29 <zodbot> The meeting name has been set to 'uk_ambassadors'
19:02:33 <MooDoo> MooDoo: here
19:02:40 <jonar> .fas jfarcher
19:02:41 <zodbot> jonar: jfarcher 'Jonathan Archer' <jon@rosslug.org.uk>
19:02:47 <MooDoo> .fas paulmellros
19:02:49 <zodbot> MooDoo: 'paulmellros' Not Found!
19:02:52 <MooDoo> .fas paulmellors
19:02:53 <zodbot> MooDoo: paulmellors 'Paul Mellors' <prjmellors@gmail.com>
19:03:00 <jonar> evening
19:03:04 <MooDoo> howdy jonar
19:03:36 <MooDoo> not sure how many people remembered this meeting chap
19:04:10 <jonar> give em a few mins and i'll remind them
19:04:34 <MooDoo> hehe will have to disapear in a few mins for 5, putting eldest to bed.
19:05:39 <smittix> .fas smittix
19:05:40 <zodbot> smittix: smittix 'James Smith' <smittix64@gmail.com>
19:05:44 <Affix> Sorry I'm late
19:05:44 <smittix> Evening
19:05:45 <Affix> .fas affix
19:05:46 <zodbot> Affix: pyrox 'Keiran Smith' <jan@fedoraproject.org> - affix 'Keiran Smith' <fedora@affix.me> - robheston 'Robert Heston' <rob@sungraffix.net>
19:05:48 <jonar> no probs
19:07:35 <MooDoo> ok brb putting laddo to bed
19:07:42 <jonar> ok...
19:07:42 <smittix> :D4
19:07:59 <jonar> just messaging Dave
19:08:14 <Affix> oh kubblai
19:08:21 <jonar> yeo
19:08:39 <Affix> look at zodbots results for me lol
19:09:26 <kubblai> hi
19:09:35 <jonar> evening
19:09:46 <kubblai> i was on a call
19:10:04 <kubblai> .fas info kubblai
19:10:06 <zodbot> kubblai: 'info kubblai' Not Found!
19:10:13 <jonar> no info
19:10:13 <kubblai> .fas kubblai
19:10:14 <zodbot> kubblai: kubblai 'David Mcnulty' <kubblai@gmail.com>
19:10:28 <jonar> we'll give Paul a few mins to return
19:13:01 <MooDoo> I'm here.
19:13:13 <jonar> Great! lets get started :-)
19:13:25 <jonar> #topic Current status of UK Fedora Community
19:13:26 <kubblai> hi paul
19:13:33 <MooDoo> hi
19:14:17 <jonar> So I thought I'd organise this meeting to try and get us all together and see if we can take this UK community forward
19:14:34 <Affix> hi
19:14:45 <jonar> I think we've achieved quite a lot over the last few months
19:15:02 <jonar> how does everyone else feel?
19:15:09 <smittix> The same
19:15:20 <smittix> Raring to go!
19:15:24 <jonar> :-)
19:15:30 <MooDoo> 5 people have acheieved lots over the last few months, but that's the community......:S
19:15:42 <kubblai> im not sure tbh, i havent seen much having not been on irc or attending ambassdor meeting due to other committments
19:15:53 <Affix> I feel we need to grow our community
19:15:57 <kubblai> just remind me what we've achieved?
19:16:05 <jonar> I still feel we have a way to go though.
19:16:16 <Affix> and start holding events
19:16:17 <MooDoo> we've been trying to grow it for months if not years, but it's getting people interested and joining in.
19:16:54 <jonar> well thats where we come in, we need to make sure we are out there creating a positive image of the Fedora community and promoting it
19:17:25 <MooDoo> if anything, apart from the few fads we could org for next year, how about thinking about Flock 2016?
19:17:26 <jonar> for me personally it's about attending events, but seeing things like Paul and James blogging on Fedora People/Magazine
19:17:27 <smittix> It's not getting people joining, it's getting existing members active
19:17:52 <smittix> Whilst it is about attending events theres loads more to do.
19:17:55 <MooDoo> the people that are active in the community are in this meeting lol
19:17:58 <smittix> Marketing is key.
19:18:20 <MooDoo> i got dishearted which is why i quite the first time.
19:18:41 <jonar> MooDoo, not entirely we aren't the community we are the ambassadors for the community... the community are the folks who use and contribute to the project
19:19:31 <MooDoo> yeah your right, I just wish it was as vibrant and active as the , i hate to say it, ubuntu community
19:19:42 <jonar> well positivity is the key
19:20:05 <jonar> if you want the Fedora UK community to be as vibrant as theirs make it
19:20:05 <MooDoo> I'm as positive as the next man, you can only do so much :)
19:21:03 <jonar> So what would you like to see from the UK community
19:21:05 <jonar> ?
19:21:56 <MooDoo> stuff we're in the process of planning, fad's, meetups, conferences, the usual, but i'm afraid we'll organise things and people will just not be interested, I don't know why I'm so negative lol
19:21:59 <Affix> I would like to see meetups first and foremost
19:22:19 <jonar> right OK, so I think events/meetups are out of our league
19:22:44 <jonar> being part of larger events, such as barcamps, LUG meetings etc are where we should be aiming
19:23:12 <Affix> I agree with that
19:23:21 <jonar> If you take part in an already established event then people will already be there and already be interested
19:23:26 <Affix> But Flock isn't out of reach
19:23:43 <MooDoo> no i've been thinking about flock a lot lately, some great places in notts.
19:23:44 <jonar> agreed Affix, but we have a bit to go
19:24:03 <MooDoo> whens the next barcamp in manchester jonar ?
19:24:16 <jonar> MooDoo last weekend
19:24:27 <jonar> next one will probably be next year
19:24:29 <Affix> I met Gino jonar lol
19:24:34 <MooDoo> ah ok.
19:24:51 <jonar> Affix, he's a legend
19:25:02 <Affix> jonar:Was on the bus up from Manc.
19:25:03 <Affix> lol
19:25:22 <Affix> Tried to brag to me about his Apache Use
19:25:27 <Affix> Quickly put a stop to that
19:26:16 <jonar> but there are always barcamps going on across the country
19:26:31 <jonar> I think Nottingham has one
19:26:42 <Affix> Theres also the glasgow Tech Meetup
19:26:44 <Affix> and ScotLUG
19:26:49 <smittix> Nottingham Barcamp?
19:26:59 <jonar> yeah and Birmingham
19:27:14 <MooDoo> last one was july
19:27:15 <smittix> I didn't think there had been one for a few years
19:27:20 <jonar> not sure
19:27:23 <smittix> Ahh, I went to one back in 2011
19:27:50 <jonar> not sure
19:28:07 <MooDoo> smittix: yeah that was the last one afaik    website isn't alive any more
19:28:18 <jonar> there will be a Blackpool next year, Oggcamp and probably Manchester too
19:28:19 <smittix> Thought so.
19:28:28 <smittix> I will try and attend Oggcamp
19:28:43 <smittix> I was going to go to the FAD in december but I am away that weekend.
19:28:44 <MooDoo> i meant to go this year but couldn't make it
19:28:45 <jonar> not sure where it will be next year yet
19:29:16 <MooDoo> thing is, with oggcamp, i'll be hanging with my ubuntu buddied lol
19:29:32 <smittix> You're not allowed MooDoo unless you conver them to Fedora
19:29:36 <jonar> Anyway, so basically we all agree that we should have a presence at as many pre planned events as possible?
19:29:36 <MooDoo> lol :)
19:29:47 <kubblai> yes jonar
19:29:47 <MooDoo> +1
19:30:06 <smittix> jonar: Of course, but as a family man and my job its not always possible.
19:30:22 <MooDoo> +1 on that one as well..
19:30:24 <jonar> #agreed try and get presence at events
19:30:43 <jonar> smittix, I work hard at home and earn my passes out ;)
19:30:57 <Affix> +1
19:31:03 <MooDoo> you guys carry on, misses is home, just got to put out tea. bbl
19:31:15 * Affix heard a whip in the distance
19:31:16 <jonar> I guess if we hold regular meetings we can all be aware of events which are taking place
19:31:23 <smittix> hence me trying to do as much as I can here.
19:31:26 <Affix> yeah how about bi-weekly?
19:31:27 <jonar> :-)
19:31:44 <jonar> either that or monthly.... don't want to over do it ;)
19:31:57 <jonar> moving on
19:32:00 <Affix> true there only a couple of us
19:32:07 <jonar> #topic Highs/Lows of 2014
19:32:37 <Affix> Low: I wasn't around much
19:32:49 <kubblai> that was a high for most of us
19:32:52 <Affix> haha
19:32:53 <smittix> High: Shot through the roof with activity
19:33:26 <jonar> Low: couldn't spend much time earlier on in the year.
19:33:32 <smittix> So far, Awaiting for approval on Marketing, Packaging and Magazine.
19:33:46 <jonar> High: had a really productive time at the recent events
19:34:01 <kubblai> High: went to my first con
19:34:06 <jonar> High: met kubblai in person :)
19:34:06 <smittix> +1
19:34:13 <kubblai> Low spent two days with jonar :))
19:34:28 <jonar> yeah he's boring
19:34:28 <kubblai> just kidding hes adorable
19:34:49 <kubblai> and he put up with my lateness :)
19:34:55 <jonar> so as a major high, for myself and kubblai
19:35:12 <jonar> I received a card through the post today from the organisers of Barcamp Manchester
19:35:20 <jonar> thanking us for our presence and help
19:35:28 <smittix> Nice one
19:35:33 <kubblai> aw nice
19:35:47 <jonar> did you see the time lapse videos?
19:35:54 <smittix> I did.
19:37:04 <smittix> Low: Our forum didn't go quite to plan
19:37:19 <jonar> https://twitter.com/JF_archer/status/523403201547341825/photo/1
19:37:23 <jonar> #link https://twitter.com/JF_archer/status/523403201547341825/photo/1
19:37:44 <jonar> I'd like to talk about that after if thats ok?
19:38:31 <jonar> can I change to next topic?
19:38:45 <smittix> Yup
19:38:48 <jonar> #topic Plan for 2015
19:39:05 <jonar> So does anyone have any plans for 2015 as an ambassador?
19:39:30 <smittix> Not yet as an ambassador but as a team we should get a website up
19:39:47 <smittix> With events and such. I think alot of people were hoping we'd do another video cast too.
19:40:07 <Affix> we have fedora-uk.org
19:40:11 <Affix> I could code something for us
19:40:25 <jonar> I agree with the site, but don't think the forum is any use
19:40:27 <smittix> Just a wordpress site would do. I think there was one set up on /dev
19:40:41 <Affix> I was thinking of something custom lol
19:40:48 <smittix> We just need editor accounts and a simple wordpress site.
19:40:49 <jonar> there is one on dev but I think it needs to be the main site
19:41:10 <smittix> Agreed, we just develop it then move it over.
19:41:30 <jonar> so we can a) syndicate our own blogs as we do with fedora people b) have a feed for the podcast
19:41:39 <smittix> Affix: Don't bother wasting your time on something bespoke. Nice offer though.
19:41:46 <smittix> jonar: +1
19:42:03 <Affix> it wont be from scratch smittix
19:42:05 <jonar> personally I don't believe we should do anything that has already been done at fedoraproject.org
19:42:11 <Affix> I wrote a ruby blogging engine lol
19:42:11 <smittix> Meet an Ambassador/Mentor page
19:42:28 <jonar> smittix +1 on that
19:42:33 <Affix> +1 too
19:42:49 <smittix> It would be really good for short bio's and mugshot of us all.
19:42:51 <jonar> I think we should have pages on us - similar to the fedoraproject wiki pages, but to compliment them
19:43:07 <smittix> Yeah, we can have link backs to the Fedora wiki.
19:43:17 <Affix> yeah
19:43:19 <jonar> So, wordpress site with personal pages and feed for podcast?
19:43:23 <Affix> We could also integrate FAS Auth :D
19:43:25 <smittix> yup
19:43:30 <smittix> Affix: +1
19:43:43 <jonar> Affix: +1 makes sense
19:44:07 <Affix> Yay I can code something for us :D
19:44:20 <kubblai> i dont have a blog or newsfeed im still using windows 3.11
19:44:24 <jonar> #agreed Wordpress site with personal pages and feed for podcast, potentially linking into FAS for authentication
19:44:40 <jonar> kubblai lies, I've seen him with a dirty mac
19:44:42 <Affix> kubblai: I can give you Hosting if you need it?
19:44:54 <smittix> Would be really good to have OpenID. Not sure about this but I was thinking of something like a useful links page that link back to useful pages within the project. I have spoken to people and they feel there is too much on the wiki and they get confused. So I guess it wouldn't hurt compiling a short list for newbies.
19:44:56 <Affix> jonar: I'm typing on a big shiny 27" 5K iMac :S
19:45:19 <jonar> thats the next thing, should we move the domain to the fedorapeople hosting?
19:45:39 <Affix> What do you mean?
19:45:45 <jonar> That way we're not eating MooDoo's bandwidth, and also not reliant on a consumer broadband  line
19:45:56 <jonar> MooDoo currently hosts fedora-uk
19:46:03 <Affix> ahh
19:46:07 <Affix> I can spin up a VM for it
19:46:15 <jonar> but we can get hosting from fedora
19:46:17 <Affix> I have an unmetered 10G pipe
19:46:33 <Affix> a server with 196G RAM to be used for whatever I want
19:46:43 <jonar> but thats yours
19:46:47 <Affix> So
19:46:53 <Affix> I like giving back to the community
19:47:14 <smittix> I can get where jonar is coming from.
19:47:33 <jonar> Fedora provide these things
19:47:42 <Affix> I know
19:47:48 <Affix> if thats the way you guys wanna go though
19:47:52 <smittix> Although we could host it ourselves. It might be a thought to host it there.
19:48:04 <smittix> For me it's more of a task we don't have to do.
19:48:16 <smittix> If someone's not available etc.
19:48:33 <jonar> exactly,
19:48:48 <Affix> I was just Suggesting I have a cloud infrastructure pretty much doing nothing
19:49:08 <jonar> there's nothing wrong with where it is now, it's just using MooDoos resources and we're reliant on him for it
19:49:30 <jonar> where if we use the upstream fedora infrastructure we can all do what we need and use their resources
19:50:42 <smittix> We can revisit this. Move on?
19:51:08 <jonar> #action to discus hosting further
19:51:35 <jonar> going to move to open floor as we've covered the other items
19:51:39 <jonar> #open floor
19:51:53 * kubblai throws tomotoes at jonar in the open floor
19:51:55 <jonar> Anybody got anything to add? gripes, positives
19:52:00 <jonar> tomatoes
19:52:04 <kubblai> haha
19:52:15 <smittix> I'm currently waiting for Ryan Lerch to approve me as an editor on Fedora Magazine.
19:52:21 <smittix> Looking forward to that.
19:52:26 <jonar> smittix, excellent!
19:52:29 <smittix> May even move some of my posts from my blog.
19:52:36 <Affix> I recently recruited a new amabassador
19:52:41 <Affix> but he's NA
19:52:49 <jonar> brill!
19:53:06 <jonar> are the 2 you recruited last year still on the scene?
19:53:07 <Affix> He works in my Companies Utah Office
19:53:26 <Affix> jonar: Tony is on and off
19:53:33 <Affix> Keeps asking me for stickers lol
19:53:55 <Affix> Eilidh I've spoken to a couple of times but shes hardly available with her Libre Office Stuff
19:53:57 <jonar> OK, guess he was just promoting it through his job, which is good
19:54:05 <jonar> OK
19:54:09 <Affix> yeah he promots it like crazy to Students
19:54:12 <Affix> hes a College Lecturer
19:54:15 <jonar> good good
19:54:34 <Affix> Was funny watching him try to tell Tom Callaway how GCC should work
19:54:44 <jonar> Is anyone going to be doing anything for the 21 release?
19:54:55 <Affix> .f21release
19:55:03 <Affix> ugh I forgot that command....
19:55:44 <Affix> Currently Planned for 2014-12-02
19:55:53 <Affix> Should plan events about a week or 2 after
19:56:02 <Affix> to combat slipage
19:56:06 <jonar> are you running an event?
19:56:28 <Affix> Was thinking of one
19:56:34 <Affix> but not confirmed yet
19:56:34 <jonar> what are you planning?
19:56:41 <Affix> an Install Fest
19:56:46 <jonar> cool
19:56:51 <jonar> at a LUG?
19:56:52 <Affix> installing and beers
19:56:54 <Affix> yeah
19:57:02 <jonar> great, same as what I'm planning
19:57:06 <smittix> Q: What shall we do for media? put one ticket in and distribute between ourselves?
19:57:14 <jonar> I reckon
19:57:18 <Affix> We should nominate someone in the UK to hold Swag
19:57:25 <jonar> I'm happy to store it in my garage
19:57:27 <Affix> To save on Shipping and Import Costs
19:57:37 <jonar> I have been doing for the last year or so
19:57:39 <Affix> we need to mention this to famsco
19:57:40 <smittix> Yeah, jonar sent me F20 swag
19:57:49 <Affix> Jonar send me some F20 swag
19:57:51 <jonar> I've already spoken to Jiri about it
19:57:52 <Affix> I got nothing lol
19:57:59 <jonar> there's no 20 swag left
19:58:02 <Affix> :'(
19:58:05 <jonar> I have 1 disk
19:58:09 <jonar> and its all mine
19:58:14 <smittix> Me too
19:58:18 <Affix> I had 10,000 F16 Disks at one point lol
19:58:24 <smittix> Sits in my laptop bag and goes everywhere
19:58:30 <jonar> :-)
19:58:35 <smittix> I just need 50 F21 discs.
19:58:43 <smittix> I got rid of them all last time.
19:58:54 <Affix> I got rid of all my 16s in one day
19:58:57 <jonar> I'll order a bucket load of swag for F21 and Q1 of 2015 then
19:59:03 <Affix> went to a college and done a lecture (For tony jonar )
19:59:12 <jonar> then I can post out, if everyone is OK with that?
19:59:22 <Affix> yeah I have no storage space
19:59:36 <jonar> Affix, I remember you talking about it
19:59:37 <smittix> jonar: agreed.
19:59:44 <jonar> cool
19:59:58 <jonar> #agreed jonar holds and posts swag for F21 and Q1
20:00:01 <Affix> LinuxCon was fun in Edinburgh :)
20:00:02 <smittix> I have storage space though if needed
20:00:20 <smittix> I have a warehouse HEH
20:00:32 <jonar> it was great, I really wanted to go this year, but it fell right between OggCamp and Barcamp manchester
20:00:34 <Affix> jonar: remember spell ubuntu backwards?
20:00:41 <jonar> haha yeah
20:00:49 <Affix> She was going to put it in the video
20:01:03 <Affix> the video is on Youtube
20:01:13 <smittix> Guys, I have to leave now. Can someone post these minutes somewhere?
20:01:19 <jonar> #link https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tOKAe8IO4OE
20:01:20 <Affix> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tOKAe8IO4OE
20:01:25 <Affix> damn you beat me to it
20:01:33 <jonar> I'll end the meeting now and send an email after
20:01:43 <smittix> Ok, Thanks everyone for showing :)
20:01:45 <jonar> I'll organise the next one
20:01:49 <kubblai> ok thanks
20:01:52 <smittix> Bye.
20:01:54 <jonar> yeah thanks.... it's good to talk :)
20:02:02 <jonar> #endmeeting