#fedora-meeting-2: Workstation WG (2020-02-04)

Meeting summary

1. rollcall (aday, 13:26:32)
   1. present: cmurf, tpopela, jens, kalev, ngompa, owen, mcatanzaro, langdon (aday, 13:26:34)
   2. regrets: aday (aday, 13:26:36)
   3. missing: mclasen (aday, 13:26:38)
   
   
2. earlyoom and resource management discussion (aday, 13:26:42)
   1. Background is https://pagure.io/fedora-workstation/issue/119 (aday, 13:26:44)
   2. We meet with Facebook's Tejun Heo and Dan Schatzberg to discuss oomd. They leave. (aday, 13:26:46)
   3. Neal recommends we proceed with earlyoom for F32. Future proposals involving oomd/systemd are interesting but still to far in the future for us to wait for. (aday, 13:26:48)
   4. Tomas not certain oomd will work well without machine-specific configuration. Michael thinks it should work. (aday, 13:26:51)
   5. Owen and Michael suggest we should experiment with setting MemoryLow configuration for mutter. (aday, 13:26:54)
   6. Chris wants to proceed for F32, but worries earlyoom isn't aggressive enough. Most users will reach for the power button before (RAM + swap) reaches 90% full and earlyoom kicks in. (aday, 13:26:57)
   7. Owen suggests this requires mention in the release notes, especially noting that applications will be killed early for users without swap. (aday, 13:27:02)
   8. Michael again proposes F33 instead of F32, but OK with implementing it right away either way. (F32 branches next week.) (aday, 13:27:05)
   9. Michael concerned about how to remove earlyoomd in a future distro update if we want to switch to something else. Neal proposes multiple solutions. (aday, 13:27:08)
   10. AGREED: Proceed with earlyoom for F32. (aday, 13:27:11)
   11. ACTION: Chris to change Fedora presets and update comps. Ensure earlyoom gets installed during distro upgrades with Supplements: fedora-release-workstation. (aday, 13:27:13)
   12. The WG discusses upgrades, and appropriate use of rawhide to test changes. (aday, 13:27:16)

Action items

1. Chris to change Fedora presets and update comps. Ensure earlyoom gets installed during distro upgrades with Supplements: fedora-release-workstation.

People present (lines said)

1. aday (25)
2. zodbot (7)
3. cmurf (0)