04:07:37 <cmurf> #startmeeting Workstation WG (2020-08-18)
04:07:37 <zodbot> Meeting started Wed Aug 26 04:07:37 2020 UTC.
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04:07:39 <cmurf> #meetingname workstation
04:07:39 <zodbot> The meeting name has been set to 'workstation'
04:07:41 <cmurf> #chair cmurf
04:07:41 <zodbot> Current chairs: cmurf
04:07:57 <cmurf> #topic Rollcall
04:07:59 <cmurf> #info present wg members: cmurf, kalev, aday, langdon, neal, michael, owen
04:08:01 <cmurf> #info regrets wg members: tpopela, mclasen
04:08:03 <cmurf> #info present guests: james, salimma
04:08:05 <cmurf> #topic Approv 11 Aug minutes
04:08:07 <cmurf> #link https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/teams/workstation/workstation.2020-08-12-03.44.log.html
04:08:09 <cmurf> #agreed Approved - no objections
04:08:11 <cmurf> #topic Announcements
04:08:13 <cmurf> #info GNOME test day for F33 will be 19 August
04:08:15 <cmurf> We want to review the preinstalled apps.
04:08:17 <cmurf> We are oversize again, by ~60MiB.
04:08:19 <cmurf> We want to review the package set for size allocation, too.
04:08:21 <cmurf> #topic Follow-ups & Status reports
04:08:23 <cmurf> Good progress on the 3rd party repo policy. The new version will cover the cases we care about (flathub allow list). Some concerns about how the scope of the policy is currently defined - it could potentially mean we're not allowed to rely on lvfs?!
04:08:25 <cmurf> Revised btrfs Fedora Magazine article.
04:08:27 <cmurf> #link https://fedoramagazine.org/?p=31659&preview=1&_ppp=fd915d2b90
04:08:29 <cmurf> No feedback from the magazine people since the last revision.
04:08:31 <cmurf> #topic Remove Photos and Rhythmbox from the default apps
04:08:33 <cmurf> #link https://pagure.io/fedora-workstation/issue/164
04:08:35 <cmurf> #action Allan will talk to Debarshi, the Photos maintainer, to let him know
04:08:37 <cmurf> Should we rename Videos to Media Player?
04:08:39 <cmurf> Owen: the WG shouldn't go changing the name of upstream apps. It's just a fallback for if someone opens an audio file from the file browser.
04:08:41 <cmurf> Allan: had a meeting with the upstream design team. They're happy with keeping Videos as Videos.
04:08:43 <cmurf> Neal: is concerned that users might be confused by the lack of a music player.
04:08:45 <cmurf> Allan: background to removing photos and rhythmbox is that people don't generally manage local media content
04:08:47 <cmurf> Chris: is OK with us making the change
04:08:49 <cmurf> Owen: the videos name isn't a big deal
04:08:51 <cmurf> Michael proposes that we make the change and think about the name again in the future
04:08:53 <cmurf> #action Michael to make the comps changes
04:08:55 <cmurf> #topic Make a small core of packages non-removable with DNF
04:08:57 <cmurf> #link https://pagure.io/fedora-workstation/issue/165
04:08:59 <cmurf> #agreed The WG agrees to make grub2, shim and gnome-shell non-removable.
04:09:01 <cmurf> #action Neal to open a PR to make grub2 and shim non-removable Fedora-wide
04:09:03 <cmurf> #action Kalev to protect gnome-shell (using fedora-release-workstation)
04:09:20 <cmurf> #endmeeting