01:52:20 <cmurf> #startmeeting Workstation WG (2020-10-13)
01:52:20 <zodbot> Meeting started Wed Oct 14 01:52:20 2020 UTC.
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01:52:22 <cmurf> #meetingname workstation
01:52:22 <zodbot> The meeting name has been set to 'workstation'
01:52:24 <cmurf> #chair cmurf
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01:52:48 <cmurf> #topic Rollcall
01:52:50 <cmurf> #info present: mclasen, tpopela, aday, cmurf, kalev, jens, mcatanzaro, otaylor, neal
01:52:52 <cmurf> #info regrets wg members: langdon
01:52:54 <cmurf> #info present guests: zac, feborges
01:52:56 <cmurf> #topic Approve 6 Oct minutes
01:52:58 <cmurf> https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/teams/workstation/workstation.2020-10-07-04.38.log.html
01:53:00 <cmurf> #agreed Approved - no objections
01:53:02 <cmurf> #topic Announcements
01:53:04 <cmurf> We are in freeze for F33.
01:53:06 <cmurf> #topic Follow-ups & Status reports:
01:53:08 <cmurf> #info current blocker bugs and freeze exceptions
01:53:10 <cmurf> #link https://qa.fedoraproject.org/blockerbugs/milestone/33/final/buglist
01:53:12 <cmurf> Chris: uncertain that we'll get through go/no-go for F33 on Thursday. It's likely that F33 will slip.
01:53:14 <cmurf> #link https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1883609
01:53:16 <cmurf> we don't know the scope of the problem
01:53:18 <cmurf> There are some challenges due to the lack of transparency around shim.
01:53:20 <cmurf> #topic Removing Cheese from the default installation for Fedora 33 Workstation #193
01:53:22 <cmurf> https://pagure.io/fedora-workstation/issue/193
01:53:24 <cmurf> tpopela managed to get in contact with Wim Taymans and he made some fixes (https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1884260#c9) that resulted in https://bodhi.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-2020-cb78ff4ca5.
01:53:26 <cmurf> #topic Enable power-profiles-daemon by default #191
01:53:28 <cmurf> #link https://pagure.io/fedora-workstation/issue/191
01:53:30 <cmurf> #agreed We should enable power-profiles-daemon in F34 - no objections
01:53:32 <cmurf> #topic Open Floor
01:53:34 <cmurf> #topic nm-connection-editor in Silverblue
01:53:36 <cmurf> #link https://github.com/fedora-silverblue/issue-tracker/issues/88
01:53:38 <cmurf> Question about why nm-connection-editor isn't included in silverblue, like it is in workstation?
01:53:40 <cmurf> Anaconda depends on it? And Anaconda gets installed in workstation. Why?
01:53:42 <cmurf> Installation works by doing a copy of the entire live image to the destination, including the installer.
01:53:44 <cmurf> It's currently installed but hidden in workstation. Back in F31 it popped up and we asked them to hide it.
01:53:46 <cmurf> GNOME no longer depends on nm-connection-editor - the goal being to allow it to be instalable and visable.
01:53:48 <cmurf> Kalev: suggests to add nm-connection-editor back to F33.
01:53:50 <cmurf> Owen: we shouldn't put something in silverblue just because it's in workstation.
01:53:52 <cmurf> Neal: missing features should be added to gnome-control-center, if people need to install nm-connection-editor
01:53:54 <cmurf> Owen & Matthias: it's fine to have optional tools for advanced features
01:53:56 <cmurf> Some oddities around gnome-control-center launching nm-connection-editor, which is ordinarily hidden
01:53:58 <cmurf> Kalev proposes to add a recommends from gnome-control-center to nm-connection-editor for F33 - this will add nm-c-e to silverblue and give us a single mechanism to remove it in the future.
01:55:29 <cmurf> #endmeeting