17:59:35 <brainycmurf> #startmeeting Workstation WG (2021-10-05)
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17:59:36 <brainycmurf> #meetingname workstation
17:59:36 <brainycmurf> #chair: Neal
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17:59:50 <brainycmurf> #topic Rollcall
17:59:51 <brainycmurf> #info present: Tom (secr), Michael, Jens, Matthias, Allan, Neal, Chris, Kalev, Owen,
17:59:51 <brainycmurf> #info regrets:  Langdon
17:59:51 <brainycmurf> #info present guests: Luna Jernberg(bittin), Zac
17:59:51 <brainycmurf> #topic Approval of September 28 minutes
17:59:51 <brainycmurf> #link https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting-2/2021-09-28/workstation.2021-09-28-22.24.log.html
17:59:54 <brainycmurf> #agreed Approved
17:59:56 <brainycmurf> #topic Announcements, follow-ups, status reports
18:00:00 <brainycmurf> #info Fedora 35 final freeze and blockers
18:00:02 <brainycmurf> Kalev was working last few days on Flatpaks to update them to F35 - waiting for karma - https://bodhi.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-FLATPAK-2021-be7df1d070 (also Kalev managed to get rid of systemd in the Flatpak runtime)
18:00:06 <brainycmurf> There are few GNOME Software bugs that will need to be resolved (two proposed blockers, one accepted as blocker)
18:00:09 <brainycmurf> #link https://qa.fedoraproject.org/blockerbugs/milestone/35/final/buglist
18:00:11 <brainycmurf> #info Kalev got Nvidia card and made the Fedora Flatpak runtime to work with the FreeDesktop Flatpak runtime extension that contains the Nvidia drivers and everything works.
18:00:14 <brainycmurf> #info Michael got his microphone working and was really happy about it :)
18:00:16 <brainycmurf> #info GNOME 42 will switch from Gedit to GNOME Text Editor
18:00:18 <brainycmurf> #link https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/gnome-text-editor
18:00:20 <brainycmurf> #topic  Supporting status notifiers in Fedora Workstation by default
18:00:22 <brainycmurf> #link https://pagure.io/fedora-workstation/issue/246
18:00:24 <brainycmurf> We shouldn't support XEmbed (aka don't advertise the support) - Hexchat is broken
18:00:26 <brainycmurf> and Dropbox is weird
18:00:30 <brainycmurf> According to Neal, the users are getting confused with applications that are running in the background (Web Apps, Electron Apps) as they don't know where they've disappeared and how to bring them back. Could be hidden by default.
18:00:34 <brainycmurf> #link https://ask.fedoraproject.org/t/can-backgrounded-apps-show-an-indication/17005
18:00:36 <brainycmurf> TopIcons retired in GNOME 40 - should it be resurrect or another one be used (i.e. the one that Canonical is using) - https://extensions.gnome.org/extension/615/appindicator-support/ or https://github.com/ubuntu/gnome-shell-extension-appindicator
18:00:40 <brainycmurf> Owen would like to see better defined specification for this. Neal agrees but adds that we have to start somewhere and the current solution could be a start
18:00:43 <brainycmurf> Michael and Owen are worried about upstream and whether the appindicator should be supported there
18:00:46 <brainycmurf> Owen: Do we want to try to do something better than the current solution (appindicator ecosystem)?
18:00:49 <brainycmurf> Neal: Probably no-one from the KDE SIG side of things would be opposed, but probably not doable in the 6 months cycle
18:00:52 <brainycmurf> Allan will try to coordinate with Ubuntu, KDE and GNOME folks to figure out steps forward.
18:00:54 <brainycmurf> #topic Open Floor
18:00:58 <brainycmurf> #endmeeting