16:23:11 <brainycmurf> #startmeeting Workstation WG (2021-10-19)
16:23:11 <brainycmurf> #meetingname workstation
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16:23:12 <brainycmurf> #chair: Neal
16:23:12 <zodbot> Current chairs: : Neal brainycmurf
16:23:28 <brainycmurf> #topic Rollcall
16:23:29 <brainycmurf> #info present: Tom, Chris, Michael, Matthias, Neal, Owen, Allan, Kalev
16:23:29 <brainycmurf> #info regrets:
16:23:29 <brainycmurf> #info present guests: fborges
16:23:29 <brainycmurf> #topic Approval of October 12 minutes
16:23:29 <brainycmurf> #link https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/teams/workstation/workstation.2021-10-12-21.05.html
16:23:31 <brainycmurf> #agreed No objections - agreed
16:23:33 <brainycmurf> #topic Announcements, follow-ups, status reports
16:23:35 <brainycmurf> #info Allan: New working group landing page on docs site (https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/workstation-working-group/ )
16:23:38 <brainycmurf> #topic  State of Fedora Workstation 35 under freeze
16:23:40 <brainycmurf> #link https://qa.fedoraproject.org/blockerbugs/milestone/35/final/buglist
16:23:42 <brainycmurf> https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2001837 still an issue. Have had multiple rounds of fixes and testing. Owen still helping out here, but thinks we have an initial working solution.
16:23:45 <brainycmurf> There are four other GNOME freeze exceptions in various states.
16:23:47 <brainycmurf> #topic  Fedora Workstation release schedule / check list
16:23:51 <brainycmurf> #link https://pagure.io/fedora-workstation/issue/250
16:23:53 <brainycmurf> #info Please check over the list and suggest necessary additions (Tomas will ask Adam Williamson to review)
16:23:56 <brainycmurf> #info Tomas asks how it should be tracked: file issues in pagure, shared google calendar, Fedora schedule page. Last option is likely best, but how do we track the actionable? Neal says that could use milestones in Pagure, possibly, but we should see how the calendar looks first so we have a concrete idea. Tomas - should be responsibility of workstation chair.
16:24:01 <brainycmurf> #topic Fedora 36 chair
16:24:03 <brainycmurf> #info Allan volunteers - may need to delegate topics where he has a contrarian view or that are highly technical.
16:24:06 <brainycmurf> #agreed Allan will be the chair for the Fedora 36 cycle
16:24:08 <brainycmurf> #agreed Chris will be the vice/backup chair for the cycle
16:24:10 <brainycmurf> #topic  Supporting status notifiers in Fedora Workstation by default
16:24:12 <brainycmurf> #link https://pagure.io/fedora-workstation/issue/246
16:24:14 <brainycmurf> #info Hans de Goede (co-maintainer of current extensions) feels it would be suitable for inclusion as is
16:24:17 <brainycmurf> #info Allan has been doing research - trying out different implementations on Linux, looking what Mac/Windows do. Will talk to peers at Canonical, etc. Asks about whether this is a) something that we are including purely for compatibility with other platforms b) something that we want to recommend in other circumstances.
16:24:23 <brainycmurf> #info question raised whether we should enable extension by default now in rawhide - Allan would like to have some time for design and discussion - and does not thing that we should enable it if it has xembed support that is broken for apps like dropbox and hexchat. (Thought is that probably if we don't have xembed enabled, dropbox will work via app-indicators.)
16:24:28 <brainycmurf> #info Neal suggests that if you install the RPM, it should be turned on by default without an additional step. people were generally OK with this.
16:24:31 <brainycmurf> #action Neal will look into what that involves
16:26:56 <brainycmurf> #endmeeting