16:23:11 #startmeeting Workstation WG (2021-10-19) 16:23:11 #meetingname workstation 16:23:11 Meeting started Tue Oct 19 16:23:11 2021 UTC. 16:23:11 This meeting is logged and archived in a public location. 16:23:11 The chair is brainycmurf. Information about MeetBot at https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Zodbot#Meeting_Functions. 16:23:11 Useful Commands: #action #agreed #halp #info #idea #link #topic. 16:23:11 The meeting name has been set to 'workstation_wg_(2021-10-19)' 16:23:11 The meeting name has been set to 'workstation' 16:23:12 #chair: Neal 16:23:12 Current chairs: : Neal brainycmurf 16:23:28 #topic Rollcall 16:23:29 #info present: Tom, Chris, Michael, Matthias, Neal, Owen, Allan, Kalev 16:23:29 #info regrets: 16:23:29 #info present guests: fborges 16:23:29 #topic Approval of October 12 minutes 16:23:29 #link https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/teams/workstation/workstation.2021-10-12-21.05.html 16:23:31 #agreed No objections - agreed 16:23:33 #topic Announcements, follow-ups, status reports 16:23:35 #info Allan: New working group landing page on docs site (https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/workstation-working-group/ ) 16:23:38 #topic State of Fedora Workstation 35 under freeze 16:23:40 #link https://qa.fedoraproject.org/blockerbugs/milestone/35/final/buglist 16:23:42 https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2001837 still an issue. Have had multiple rounds of fixes and testing. Owen still helping out here, but thinks we have an initial working solution. 16:23:45 There are four other GNOME freeze exceptions in various states. 16:23:47 #topic Fedora Workstation release schedule / check list 16:23:51 #link https://pagure.io/fedora-workstation/issue/250 16:23:53 #info Please check over the list and suggest necessary additions (Tomas will ask Adam Williamson to review) 16:23:56 #info Tomas asks how it should be tracked: file issues in pagure, shared google calendar, Fedora schedule page. Last option is likely best, but how do we track the actionable? Neal says that could use milestones in Pagure, possibly, but we should see how the calendar looks first so we have a concrete idea. Tomas - should be responsibility of workstation chair. 16:24:01 #topic Fedora 36 chair 16:24:03 #info Allan volunteers - may need to delegate topics where he has a contrarian view or that are highly technical. 16:24:06 #agreed Allan will be the chair for the Fedora 36 cycle 16:24:08 #agreed Chris will be the vice/backup chair for the cycle 16:24:10 #topic Supporting status notifiers in Fedora Workstation by default 16:24:12 #link https://pagure.io/fedora-workstation/issue/246 16:24:14 #info Hans de Goede (co-maintainer of current extensions) feels it would be suitable for inclusion as is 16:24:17 #info Allan has been doing research - trying out different implementations on Linux, looking what Mac/Windows do. Will talk to peers at Canonical, etc. Asks about whether this is a) something that we are including purely for compatibility with other platforms b) something that we want to recommend in other circumstances. 16:24:23 #info question raised whether we should enable extension by default now in rawhide - Allan would like to have some time for design and discussion - and does not thing that we should enable it if it has xembed support that is broken for apps like dropbox and hexchat. (Thought is that probably if we don't have xembed enabled, dropbox will work via app-indicators.) 16:24:28 #info Neal suggests that if you install the RPM, it should be turned on by default without an additional step. people were generally OK with this. 16:24:31 #action Neal will look into what that involves 16:26:56 #endmeeting