18:19:17 <brainycmurf> #startmeeting Workstation WG (2021-10-26) 18:19:17 <zodbot> Meeting started Tue Oct 26 18:19:17 2021 UTC. 18:19:17 <zodbot> This meeting is logged and archived in a public location. 18:19:17 <zodbot> The chair is brainycmurf. Information about MeetBot at https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Zodbot#Meeting_Functions. 18:19:17 <zodbot> Useful Commands: #action #agreed #halp #info #idea #link #topic. 18:19:17 <zodbot> The meeting name has been set to 'workstation_wg_(2021-10-26)' 18:19:17 <brainycmurf> #meetingname workstation 18:19:17 <brainycmurf> #chair: Neal 18:19:17 <zodbot> The meeting name has been set to 'workstation' 18:19:17 <zodbot> Current chairs: : Neal brainycmurf 18:19:29 <brainycmurf> #topic Rollcall 18:19:29 <brainycmurf> #info present: Neal, Matthias, Allan, Chris, Michael, Kalev, Jens, Tomas, Owen 18:19:29 <brainycmurf> #info regrets: 18:19:29 <brainycmurf> #info absent: Langdon (we should reach out to see if he's still planning on coming back) 18:19:29 <brainycmurf> #info present guests: Zac 18:19:30 <brainycmurf> #info DST ends somewhere next week. Europeans will be later (or earlier) next week 18:19:32 <brainycmurf> #topic Approval of October 19 minutes 18:19:34 <brainycmurf> #link https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/teams/workstation/workstation.2021-10-19-16.23.html 18:19:36 <brainycmurf> The minutes are approved! 18:19:38 <brainycmurf> #topic Announcements, follow-ups, status reports 18:19:42 <brainycmurf> Allan did some docs work 18:19:44 <brainycmurf> #info Allan will do a 30 minute F35 workstation status update at the F35 release party, November 12/13 18:19:47 <brainycmurf> #link https://hopin.com/events/fedora-linux-35-release-party/registration 18:19:49 <brainycmurf> #topic State of Fedora Workstation 35 under freeze 18:19:51 <brainycmurf> #link https://qa.fedoraproject.org/blockerbugs/milestone/35/final/buglist 18:19:53 <brainycmurf> - Owen says he got the worst parts fixed. "It should work most of the time for most people". 18:19:55 <brainycmurf> The remaining issues are hopefully corner cases. Allan suggests that we should perhaps 18:19:57 <brainycmurf> reduce the emphasis on reliability in release notes. Owen says the biggest remaining issue 18:19:59 <brainycmurf> may be due to the threading model and may need a workaround, even though Philip says 18:20:01 <brainycmurf> threading model changes will not happen this release. 18:20:03 <brainycmurf> - Neal mentions that he fixed some wireplumber issues, and that landed yesterday. 18:20:05 <brainycmurf> Neal also discovered that classic mode doesn't work with Wayland except in RHEL8. 18:20:07 <brainycmurf> MR here: https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/gnome-shell-extensions/-/merge_requests/195 18:20:11 <brainycmurf> - We have a mutter fix for random scrolling during edit in text views, it is still in pending: 18:20:13 <brainycmurf> https://bodhi.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-2021-81dea304dd 18:20:15 <brainycmurf> - RC2 is here: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Test_Results:Fedora_35_RC_1.2_Installation?rd=Test_Results:Current_Installation_Test 18:20:18 <brainycmurf> - Go-no-go meeting is on Thursday. 18:20:20 <brainycmurf> #topic Video review on GNOME UX for new users indicates UX issues 18:20:22 <brainycmurf> #link https://pagure.io/fedora-workstation/issue/247 18:20:24 <brainycmurf> Neal talks about lack of documentation and lack of detail in the onboarding tour. 18:20:26 <brainycmurf> Allan mentions that the limitations of the tour are known and more interactive onboarding 18:20:28 <brainycmurf> has been discussed. This is currently in the backlog as a design initiative ( https://gitlab.gnome.org/Teams/Design/os-mockups/-/issues/128) and needs developer 18:20:31 <brainycmurf> resources to adapt existing extension code that Endless has. 18:20:33 <brainycmurf> #topic Change gedit for gnome-text-editor in the default install 18:20:35 <brainycmurf> #link https://pagure.io/fedora-workstation/issue/248 18:20:37 <brainycmurf> Neal has packaged gnome-text-editor. It got stuck behind a new contributor working 18:20:41 <brainycmurf> GtkSourceView. Neal and Michael will get the review unstuck. 18:20:43 <brainycmurf> #topic Open Floor 18:20:45 <brainycmurf> No items. 18:21:15 <brainycmurf> #endmeeting