18:05:12 #startmeeting Workstation WG (2021-12-07) 18:05:12 Meeting started Wed Dec 8 18:05:12 2021 UTC. 18:05:12 This meeting is logged and archived in a public location. 18:05:12 The chair is brainycmurf. Information about MeetBot at https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Zodbot#Meeting_Functions. 18:05:12 Useful Commands: #action #agreed #halp #info #idea #link #topic. 18:05:12 The meeting name has been set to 'workstation_wg_(2021-12-07)' 18:05:12 #meetingname workstation 18:05:12 The meeting name has been set to 'workstation' 18:05:12 #chair Allan 18:05:12 Current chairs: Allan brainycmurf 18:05:23 #info Present members: Allan, Tomas, Owen, Michael, Kalev, Jens, Neal, Chris (tardy), Mattias (late) 18:05:23 #info Present guests: Luna Jernberg (bittin) 18:05:23 #info Regrets: 18:05:23 #info Missing: Langdon 18:05:23 #info Secretary: Allan 18:05:25 #topic Fedora Workstation Planning 18:05:27 - Report from the Boston planning event 18:05:29 What we've been talking about: 18:05:33 - Goals, both high level and operational. How to maintain growth. 18:05:35 - Role of Silverblue - we like it, but it's hard to justify switching to it as the default workstation offering. That could change in the future though. 18:05:38 - Outstanding questions around drivers, system extensions. Lack of support in rpm-ostree - as seen with systemd-resolved. Though we would ideally like to avoid layering packages. 18:05:41 - Main obstacle is the change in the user experience - different kind of system. 18:05:43 - Alignment and cooperation with CoreOS will be important. Challenge there with CoreOs often operating outside of the Fedora project. 18:05:46 - What are the main things we need to do? What are the main obstacles? 18:05:48 - ffmpeg - the main source of complaints. Breaks app functionality. Needed for the live streaming initiative. Needed as the interface for other codecs. 18:05:51 - Michael: why not Silverblue? 18:05:53 - Jens: perennial question of documentation. 18:05:55 - Tutorials - how to accomplish common tasks for those migrating from other platforms. Maybe in magazine. 18:05:58 - Expand GNOME Tour 18:06:00 - Luna: improve the website, less developer more user focused. 18:06:04 #info Last week's minutes have been posted 18:06:06 #link https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/teams/workstation/workstation.2021-12-01-19.24.log.html 18:09:08 #endmeeting