20:52:10 #startmeeting Workstation WG (2022-01-25) 20:52:10 Meeting started Tue Jan 25 20:52:10 2022 UTC. 20:52:10 This meeting is logged and archived in a public location. 20:52:10 The chair is brainycmurf. Information about MeetBot at https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Zodbot#Meeting_Functions. 20:52:10 Useful Commands: #action #agreed #halp #info #idea #link #topic. 20:52:10 The meeting name has been set to 'workstation_wg_(2022-01-25)' 20:52:10 #meetingname workstation 20:52:10 #chair Allan 20:52:10 The meeting name has been set to 'workstation' 20:52:10 Current chairs: Allan brainycmurf 20:52:23 #info Present members: Owen, Neal, Allan, Jens, Tomas, Chris, Michael, Matthias 20:52:23 #info Present guests: Luna Jernberg(bittin), Felipe 20:52:23 #info Regrets: 20:52:23 #info Missing: 20:52:23 #info Secretary: Owen 20:52:24 #topic Improve the user feedback for OOM situations 20:52:26 #link https://pagure.io/fedora-workstation/issue/202 20:52:28 #action Matthias to check with Benjamin Berg whether there is any progress he is aware of. 20:52:32 #topic Offline updates: install updates after the user triggers the shutdown/restart command, instead of installing them in the next boot 20:52:35 #link https://pagure.io/fedora-workstation/issue/258 20:52:37 * From discussion on the ticket, it doesn't appear that the original idea of using 'systemd isolate' to get in a state where upgrades can be performed will work. Ideas on how to proceed welcome! 20:52:40 #topic Work on a new appindicator protocol 20:52:42 #link https://pagure.io/fedora-workstation/issue/264 20:52:44 * Discussion moved to https://gitlab.freedesktop.org/xdg/xdg-specs/-/issues/84 - https://gitlab.freedesktop.org/xdg/xdg-specs/-/merge_requests/54 - lots of good discusion from all parties 20:52:47 * GNOME design community has started to explore options for how to integrate this officially (should status icons be in the overview rather than permanently in the hot bar?) 20:52:50 * WG wants to stay involved in making sure that the discussion comes to a concrete conclusion, implementation in GNOME shell, libappindicator using the new protocol 20:52:53 #topic Announcements, status updates 20:52:55 * Tomas reports on the new draft PRD - will try to work with others to finish up by this weekend. (https://pagure.io/fedora-workstation/issue/262) 20:52:58 * Neal reports that he has merged changes related to moving the rpmdb to /usr (https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/RelocateRPMToUsr) 20:53:03 * Allan: gnome-text-editor package in F35 is not fully useful, since it's a package of an old quasi-snapshot and doesn't reflect the current development status (which would require GNOME 42) - can see something closer to the current development with the Flathub nightly. 20:53:07 * Neal: main blocker for packaging gnome-console (King's Cross) is lack of an updated VTE, otherwise seems straightforward. 20:53:10 #info Devconf.CZ Online this weekend 20:53:12 #link https://www.devconf.info/cz/ 20:53:14 #info FOSDEM Hybrid the week after 20:53:16 #link https://fosdem.org/2022/ 20:53:18 #info The minutes from last week have been posted online. 20:53:20 #link https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting-2/2022-01-19/workstation.2022-01-19-06.36.log.html 20:54:14 #endmeeting