17:14:26 <brainycmurf> #startmeeting Workstation WG (2022-05-17)
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17:14:26 <brainycmurf> #meetingname workstation
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17:14:27 <brainycmurf> #chair aday
17:14:27 <zodbot> Current chairs: aday brainycmurf
17:14:40 <brainycmurf> #info Present members:Neal, Michael, Allan, Tomas, Matthias, Chris, Jens, Owen
17:14:40 <brainycmurf> #info Guests:Luna Jernberg(bittin),
17:14:40 <brainycmurf> #info Regrets:
17:14:40 <brainycmurf> #info Missing:
17:14:40 <brainycmurf> #info Secretary: Matthias
17:14:41 <brainycmurf> #topic Review the state of i18n and l10n
17:14:43 <brainycmurf> #link https://pagure.io/fedora-workstation/issue/267
17:14:45 <brainycmurf> Jens has slides. There are some subprojects:
17:14:47 <brainycmurf> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/I18N
17:14:49 <brainycmurf> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/L10N
17:14:51 <brainycmurf> - Translation is largely handled upstream.
17:14:53 <brainycmurf> - Allan raises the question of supported languages - we don't really have a notion
17:14:55 <brainycmurf> of that for Fedora. Many people choose their locale in the installer, and anaconda
17:14:59 <brainycmurf> has its own language list (which just goes by the translations anaconda has).
17:15:01 <brainycmurf> GNOME release notes use an 80%  threshold for declaring languages supported,
17:15:03 <brainycmurf> but we don't use those thresholds to filter the language list in the control-center.
17:15:05 <brainycmurf> - Jens has a lot of past Fedora features listed on this slides.
17:15:07 <brainycmurf> - Some discussion around measuring which locales are used to what degree with
17:15:09 <brainycmurf> Fedora. Currently, we don't have any data. Allan points out that we have a small
17:15:11 <brainycmurf> GNOME tool for data collection that could maybe enhance to collect locale info.
17:15:13 <brainycmurf> - Fonts had a big change recently, with the switch to Noto.
17:15:15 <brainycmurf> - Still open: improving font installation on Silverblue (could explode rpms into
17:15:17 <brainycmurf> the home directory).
17:15:19 <brainycmurf> - Input methods main ones are Korean and Chinese.
17:15:21 <brainycmurf> - Lots of things to say here. We've been fighting Wayland regressions for a while.
17:15:23 <brainycmurf> Allan and Neal talk about the difficulty of working with the ime authors on UX.
17:15:25 <brainycmurf> -We discussed opening our internal GNOME/I18N call to Fedora and upstream KDE
17:15:29 <brainycmurf> folks.
17:15:31 <brainycmurf> #action Neal to put Jens in contact with Aleix
17:15:33 <brainycmurf> - Jens shows a few tools that present statistics about Fedora translations.
17:15:35 <brainycmurf> - We talked a bit about areas to focus on -  UX around input, input testing,
17:15:37 <brainycmurf> filtering of locales, font qa.
17:15:39 <brainycmurf> #topic Appoint a chair for the F37 cycle
17:15:41 <brainycmurf> #link https://pagure.io/fedora-workstation/issue/308
17:15:43 <brainycmurf> Allan's going to be away for 2 weeks.
17:15:45 <brainycmurf> Allan is willing to continue, Chris volunteers to be co-chair, and will cover
17:15:47 <brainycmurf> the time that Allan is away.
17:15:49 <brainycmurf> #topic Upcoming meetings
17:15:51 <brainycmurf> Which topics to cover in upcoming meetings? Some candidates:
17:15:53 <brainycmurf> * Update the PRD - #262
17:15:55 <brainycmurf> * NVIDIA (stuff happened!) & secure boot - #155
17:15:59 <brainycmurf> * Drop flathub filtering - #300
17:16:01 <brainycmurf> * Preinstalled Flatpaks - #269
17:16:03 <brainycmurf> * Graphical recovery environment - #288
17:16:05 <brainycmurf> * ...
17:16:07 <brainycmurf> Deferred
17:16:09 <brainycmurf> #topic Release blocking status of basic functionality tests for apps
17:16:11 <brainycmurf> #link https://pagure.io/fedora-workstation/issue/304
17:16:13 <brainycmurf> Assignees for sub-tasks, please:
17:16:15 <brainycmurf> * https://pagure.io/fedora-workstation/issue/164
17:16:17 <brainycmurf> * https://pagure.io/fedora-workstation/issue/306
17:16:19 <brainycmurf> * https://pagure.io/fedora-workstation/issue/307
17:16:21 <brainycmurf> * https://pagure.io/fedora-workstation/issue/310
17:16:23 <brainycmurf> * https://pagure.io/fedora-workstation/issue/311
17:16:25 <brainycmurf> * https://pagure.io/fedora-workstation/issue/312
17:16:29 <brainycmurf> Deferred
17:16:31 <brainycmurf> Backlog issues:
17:16:33 <brainycmurf> #topic Howdy integration
17:16:35 <brainycmurf> https://pagure.io/fedora-workstation/issue/272
17:16:37 <brainycmurf> Deferred
17:16:39 <brainycmurf> #topic In Repository Gnome Shell Extesions Need Some TLC
17:16:41 <brainycmurf> https://pagure.io/fedora-workstation/issue/254
17:16:43 <brainycmurf> Deferred
17:16:45 <brainycmurf> #topic Announcements, Status Updates
17:16:47 <brainycmurf> The GNOME 43 Translation Cycle opened up yesterday 16th May
17:16:49 <brainycmurf> Problems with gnome-software on Fedora Silverblue (now resolved)
17:16:51 <brainycmurf> Fedora Hatches IRL Meetups in June-July 2022 (around the world)
17:16:53 <brainycmurf> GUADEC 2022 in Mexico with Online stream 20-25th July: https://events.gnome.org/event/77/
17:16:55 <brainycmurf> Fedora Nest Online 2022 4-7th August: https://flocktofedora.org/
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17:17:04 <brainycmurf> #endmeeting