00:35:33 <brainycmurf> #startmeeting Workstation WG (2022-06-28)
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00:35:33 <brainycmurf> #meetingname workstation
00:35:33 <zodbot> The meeting name has been set to 'workstation'
00:35:33 <brainycmurf> #chair Allan
00:35:33 <zodbot> Current chairs: Allan brainycmurf
00:35:42 <brainycmurf> #info Present members: Allan, Matthias, Tomas, Michael, Jens, Neal
00:35:42 <brainycmurf> #info Guests: Ray, Felipe
00:35:43 <brainycmurf> #info Regrets: Chris
00:35:43 <brainycmurf> #info Missing:
00:35:43 <brainycmurf> #info Secretary: Matthias
00:35:43 <brainycmurf> #topic Planning for Fedora 37/38
00:35:47 <brainycmurf> #link https://pagure.io/fedora-workstation/issue/318
00:35:49 <brainycmurf> #info F37 issue list
00:35:51 <brainycmurf> #link https://pagure.io/fedora-workstation/issues?status=Open&milestone=Fedora+37&close_status=
00:35:53 <brainycmurf> #info Issues without a milestone
00:35:55 <brainycmurf> #link https://pagure.io/fedora-workstation/issues?status=Open&milestone=none&close_status=
00:35:57 <brainycmurf> #info F37 wish list items:
00:35:59 <brainycmurf> - Preinstall apps as Flatpaks - #268 (Tomas) (Neal is not in favor)
00:36:01 <brainycmurf> - Kinoite wants to have preinstalled flatpaks
00:36:03 <brainycmurf> - We should finish up the h264 installation story (Neal is writing a post-install thingie) - #84 ?
00:36:06 <brainycmurf> - Unfiltered flathub remote (Matthias is writing a change proposal) - #300 (Neal is not in favor)
00:36:09 <brainycmurf> - Allan is looking at the app story - #203 ,etc
00:36:11 <brainycmurf> - HDR support (Matthias, propably F38)
00:36:13 <brainycmurf> - Subpackage langpacks for firefox (Jens)
00:36:17 <brainycmurf> - Appindicator protocol - #264
00:36:19 <brainycmurf> - gnome-shell extension dependency generator (Neal, punted F38) - #257
00:36:21 <brainycmurf> #info Today is the deadline for systemwide change proposals
00:36:23 <brainycmurf> #topic Howdy integration
00:36:25 <brainycmurf> #link https://pagure.io/fedora-workstation/issue/272
00:36:27 <brainycmurf> Ray gives an update: integration requires change to auth-select, gdm, control-center, howdy.
00:36:29 <brainycmurf> All written in python. There's an upstream rewrite in c++.
00:36:31 <brainycmurf> Ray plans to put up a copr with prototype integration, which will have both
00:36:33 <brainycmurf> gdm and control-center bits, probably by next week.
00:36:35 <brainycmurf> This is still the evaluation phase for whether we want to do this at all.
00:36:37 <brainycmurf> #topic GNOME Software is recommending proprietary software
00:36:39 <brainycmurf> #link https://pagure.io/fedora-workstation/issue/203
00:36:41 <brainycmurf> The issue started out asking for stopping to advertise proprietary apps.
00:36:43 <brainycmurf> Now it is about bringing this back.
00:36:47 <brainycmurf> Upstream gnome-software will introduce a section for highlighting certain
00:36:49 <brainycmurf> apps.
00:36:51 <brainycmurf> Neal is thinking about customizing fedy for the kde spin instead.
00:36:53 <brainycmurf> Michael requests that presentation of app security be prioritized higher instead: https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/gnome-software/-/issues/1451
00:36:56 <brainycmurf> #topic Remove Boxes from the default install
00:36:58 <brainycmurf> #link https://pagure.io/fedora-workstation/issue/179
00:37:00 <brainycmurf> Michael summarizes that after some back-and-forth boxes has been moved to
00:37:02 <brainycmurf> gnome-core-developer-tools. The question is whether to follow along in Fedora
00:37:04 <brainycmurf> workstation.
00:37:06 <brainycmurf> Michael points out that remote connections have been moved to connections.
00:37:08 <brainycmurf> Michael also points out that we've not recently succeeded in removing apps,
00:37:10 <brainycmurf> and our set of default apps is maybe already a bit thin.
00:37:12 <brainycmurf> Some discussion around oem-preinstalled applications on other platforms and
00:37:14 <brainycmurf> how they are annoying and involve kickback schemes.
00:37:18 <brainycmurf> Most participants in the discussion were in favor of not removing boxes. And Michael
00:37:20 <brainycmurf> and Jens are ok with keeping it.
00:37:22 <brainycmurf> #topic Ship preininstalled apps as Flatpaks
00:37:24 <brainycmurf> #link https://pagure.io/fedora-workstation/issue/269
00:37:26 <brainycmurf> Deferred
00:37:28 <brainycmurf> #topic Announcements, Status Updates
00:37:30 <brainycmurf> #info The minutes from last week have been posted.
00:37:32 <brainycmurf> #link https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting-2/2022-06-23/workstation.2022-06-23-16.01.log.html
00:37:35 <brainycmurf> #info https://discussion.fedoraproject.org/t/fedora-docs-design-work/40062
00:37:37 <brainycmurf> OSK improvements coming in GNOME 43; relevant to ibus typing booster
00:37:39 <brainycmurf> #endmeeting