02:08:36 <brainycmurf> #startmeeting Workstation WG (2023-03-07)
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02:08:36 <brainycmurf> #meetingname workstation
02:08:36 <brainycmurf> #chair Michael
02:08:36 <zodbot> The meeting name has been set to 'workstation'
02:08:36 <zodbot> Current chairs: Michael brainycmurf
02:08:48 <brainycmurf> #info Present members: Matthias, Chris, Allan, Neal, Owen, Tomas, Michael
02:08:48 <brainycmurf> #info Guests:
02:08:48 <brainycmurf> #info Regrets: Jens
02:08:48 <brainycmurf> #info Secretary: Kalev
02:08:48 <brainycmurf> #topic Fedora 38 beta blockers
02:08:49 <brainycmurf> #link https://qa.fedoraproject.org/blockerbugs/milestone/38/beta/buglist
02:08:51 <brainycmurf> The Workstation image is over size and it looks like the gdb fix that was included in RC 1.2 image didn't bring it sufficiently down.
02:08:56 <brainycmurf> #info We have consensus to waive the image being over size for Beta and investigate the size more before Final.
02:08:59 <brainycmurf> 0 bugs proposed / 1 bug approved for the Workstation related components
02:09:01 <brainycmurf> Discussion about what to consider a blocker and if we should apply the same criteria to all apps. Most people would like to make sure that gnome-shell and certain other important components work well, and allow some issues in other apps. We need to come up with a list of apps so that QA can apply that when deciding blocker status.
02:09:05 <brainycmurf> #info 1: crypto-policies: Insecure installed RPMs (like Google Chrome) prevent system updates in F38, can't be removed - ON_QA
02:09:08 <brainycmurf> #link https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2170878
02:09:10 <brainycmurf> status: currently on QA waiting for verification
02:09:12 <brainycmurf> #topic Fedora 38 final blockers
02:09:14 <brainycmurf> #link https://qa.fedoraproject.org/blockerbugs/milestone/38/final/buglist
02:09:16 <brainycmurf> 0 bugs proposed / 1 bug approved for the Workstation related components
02:09:18 <brainycmurf> Proposed:
02:09:20 <brainycmurf> #info 1: fedora-workstation-repositories: workstation repos contain Google Chrome repo, but Chrome can't be installed - NEW
02:09:25 <brainycmurf> #link https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2170839
02:09:27 <brainycmurf> #info 2: gnome-boxes: Boxes seem to end up in a loop when trying to create a new VM. - POST
02:09:29 <brainycmurf> #link https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2175708
02:09:31 <brainycmurf> #info 3: gnome-control-center: Session crash when reverting Display settings - NEW
02:09:33 <brainycmurf> #link https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2175809
02:09:35 <brainycmurf> #info 4: gnome-tour: gnome-tour segfaults - VERIFIED
02:09:37 <brainycmurf> #link https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2175648
02:09:39 <brainycmurf> #info 5: gtk4: With GTK 4.9.1 , Nautilus' target for "Move To" or "Copy To" operations is unexpected and can be invalid
02:09:42 <brainycmurf> #link https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2173891
02:09:44 <brainycmurf> #info 6: mutter: XWayland apps steal focus - ON_QA
02:09:46 <brainycmurf> #link https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2173985
02:09:48 <brainycmurf> Approved:
02:09:50 <brainycmurf> #info 1: gnome-shell: reboot/poweroff/logout from GNOME are 60 seconds delayed without 3D acceleration - VERIFIED
02:09:55 <brainycmurf> #link https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2174753
02:09:57 <brainycmurf> #topic encryption of user data (excludes system)
02:09:59 <brainycmurf> #link https://pagure.io/fedora-workstation/issue/82
02:10:01 <brainycmurf> Neal: btrfs fscrypt might land in upstream kernel later this year.
02:10:03 <brainycmurf> Chris: fscrypt is per-directory so we wouldn't need a separate volume to encrypt.
02:10:05 <brainycmurf> Neal: We'd want to change the home directory to a subvolume when creating it. Encrypting the whole subvolume allows more encryption than per-directory.
02:10:08 <brainycmurf> #action Owen and Neal to write a plan and bring it back to the WG to review
02:10:10 <brainycmurf> #topic encryption of system data (excludes user)
02:10:12 <brainycmurf> #link https://pagure.io/fedora-workstation/issue/136
02:10:14 <brainycmurf> #topic Announcements and status updates
02:10:16 <brainycmurf> #info Daylight Savings Time: next meeting moves from 10:00 EST (15:00 UTC) to 10:00 EDT (14:00 UTC)
02:10:19 <brainycmurf> #info F38 / GNOME 44 test week is happening
02:10:21 <brainycmurf> #link https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Test_Day:2023-03-06_Fedora_38_GNOME_44_Desktop_and_Core_Apps
02:10:25 <brainycmurf> #link https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Test_Day:2023-03-09_Fedora_38_GNOME_44_Apps
02:10:27 <brainycmurf> #info GUADEC 2023 call for papers is open until March 27th
02:10:29 <brainycmurf> #link https://foundation.gnome.org/2023/02/24/guadec-2023-cfp/
02:10:31 <brainycmurf> #info Last week's meeting minutes posted
02:10:33 <brainycmurf> #link https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting-2/2023-02-28/workstation.2023-02-28-19.55.log.html
02:10:36 <brainycmurf> #endmeeting