02:08:36 #startmeeting Workstation WG (2023-03-07) 02:08:36 Meeting started Thu Mar 9 02:08:36 2023 UTC. 02:08:36 This meeting is logged and archived in a public location. 02:08:36 The chair is brainycmurf. Information about MeetBot at https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Zodbot#Meeting_Functions. 02:08:36 Useful Commands: #action #agreed #halp #info #idea #link #topic. 02:08:36 The meeting name has been set to 'workstation_wg_(2023-03-07)' 02:08:36 #meetingname workstation 02:08:36 #chair Michael 02:08:36 The meeting name has been set to 'workstation' 02:08:36 Current chairs: Michael brainycmurf 02:08:48 #info Present members: Matthias, Chris, Allan, Neal, Owen, Tomas, Michael 02:08:48 #info Guests: 02:08:48 #info Regrets: Jens 02:08:48 #info Secretary: Kalev 02:08:48 #topic Fedora 38 beta blockers 02:08:49 #link https://qa.fedoraproject.org/blockerbugs/milestone/38/beta/buglist 02:08:51 The Workstation image is over size and it looks like the gdb fix that was included in RC 1.2 image didn't bring it sufficiently down. 02:08:56 #info We have consensus to waive the image being over size for Beta and investigate the size more before Final. 02:08:59 0 bugs proposed / 1 bug approved for the Workstation related components 02:09:01 Discussion about what to consider a blocker and if we should apply the same criteria to all apps. Most people would like to make sure that gnome-shell and certain other important components work well, and allow some issues in other apps. We need to come up with a list of apps so that QA can apply that when deciding blocker status. 02:09:05 #info 1: crypto-policies: Insecure installed RPMs (like Google Chrome) prevent system updates in F38, can't be removed - ON_QA 02:09:08 #link https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2170878 02:09:10 status: currently on QA waiting for verification 02:09:12 #topic Fedora 38 final blockers 02:09:14 #link https://qa.fedoraproject.org/blockerbugs/milestone/38/final/buglist 02:09:16 0 bugs proposed / 1 bug approved for the Workstation related components 02:09:18 Proposed: 02:09:20 #info 1: fedora-workstation-repositories: workstation repos contain Google Chrome repo, but Chrome can't be installed - NEW 02:09:25 #link https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2170839 02:09:27 #info 2: gnome-boxes: Boxes seem to end up in a loop when trying to create a new VM. - POST 02:09:29 #link https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2175708 02:09:31 #info 3: gnome-control-center: Session crash when reverting Display settings - NEW 02:09:33 #link https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2175809 02:09:35 #info 4: gnome-tour: gnome-tour segfaults - VERIFIED 02:09:37 #link https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2175648 02:09:39 #info 5: gtk4: With GTK 4.9.1 , Nautilus' target for "Move To" or "Copy To" operations is unexpected and can be invalid 02:09:42 #link https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2173891 02:09:44 #info 6: mutter: XWayland apps steal focus - ON_QA 02:09:46 #link https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2173985 02:09:48 Approved: 02:09:50 #info 1: gnome-shell: reboot/poweroff/logout from GNOME are 60 seconds delayed without 3D acceleration - VERIFIED 02:09:55 #link https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2174753 02:09:57 #topic encryption of user data (excludes system) 02:09:59 #link https://pagure.io/fedora-workstation/issue/82 02:10:01 Neal: btrfs fscrypt might land in upstream kernel later this year. 02:10:03 Chris: fscrypt is per-directory so we wouldn't need a separate volume to encrypt. 02:10:05 Neal: We'd want to change the home directory to a subvolume when creating it. Encrypting the whole subvolume allows more encryption than per-directory. 02:10:08 #action Owen and Neal to write a plan and bring it back to the WG to review 02:10:10 #topic encryption of system data (excludes user) 02:10:12 #link https://pagure.io/fedora-workstation/issue/136 02:10:14 #topic Announcements and status updates 02:10:16 #info Daylight Savings Time: next meeting moves from 10:00 EST (15:00 UTC) to 10:00 EDT (14:00 UTC) 02:10:19 #info F38 / GNOME 44 test week is happening 02:10:21 #link https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Test_Day:2023-03-06_Fedora_38_GNOME_44_Desktop_and_Core_Apps 02:10:25 #link https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Test_Day:2023-03-09_Fedora_38_GNOME_44_Apps 02:10:27 #info GUADEC 2023 call for papers is open until March 27th 02:10:29 #link https://foundation.gnome.org/2023/02/24/guadec-2023-cfp/ 02:10:31 #info Last week's meeting minutes posted 02:10:33 #link https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting-2/2023-02-28/workstation.2023-02-28-19.55.log.html 02:10:36 #endmeeting