23:43:06 <brainycmurf> #startmeeting Workstation WG (2023-05-09)
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23:43:06 <brainycmurf> #meetingname workstation
23:43:06 <zodbot> The meeting name has been set to 'workstation'
23:43:06 <brainycmurf> #chair Michael
23:43:06 <zodbot> Current chairs: Michael brainycmurf
23:43:20 <brainycmurf> #info Present members: Tomas, Michael, Kalev, Chris, Owen, Neal, Mathias, Jens
23:43:20 <brainycmurf> #info Guests:
23:43:20 <brainycmurf> #info Regrets: Allan
23:43:20 <brainycmurf> #info Missing:
23:43:22 <brainycmurf> #info Secretary: Tomáš
23:43:24 <brainycmurf> #topic No secure ATA Erase functionality available on default install image
23:43:26 <brainycmurf> #link https://pagure.io/fedora-workstation/issue/378
23:43:28 <brainycmurf> Kalev: should we add hdparm as a "recommends" so it's pulled in? Chris thinks that it's preinstalled in Server, but not on Workstation. But the whole thing is confusing so we will ask the reporter for more information about their proposal (there are no mentions of hdparm in gnome-disk-utility).
23:43:32 <brainycmurf> #action ask the reporter for more information
23:43:34 <brainycmurf> #topic Suggest upgrading KDF (Key Derivation Function) for encrypted drives
23:43:36 <brainycmurf> #link https://pagure.io/fedora-workstation/issue/372
23:43:38 <brainycmurf> Neal mentioned that Argon2 is breaking the FIPS. Two things that needs to happen:
23:43:40 <brainycmurf> * Change the Fedora defaults: Apparently defaults have changed in Fedora and it's using Argon2id nowadays, so the defaults are safe.
23:43:43 <brainycmurf> * Upgrade the current status for already installed Fedora: a script will need to be written to do the automatic upgrade. Technical details will be covered by Owen in the FWWG ticket.
23:43:46 <brainycmurf> #action Chris to email cryptsetup maintainers
23:43:48 <brainycmurf> #topic Announcements and status updates
23:43:52 <brainycmurf> Kalev is taking care of GNOME packaging in Fedora from next GNOME point release.
23:43:54 <brainycmurf> Owen's proposal for Flatpaks with modularity: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/FlatpaksWithoutModules
23:43:57 <brainycmurf> The minutes from last week have been posted
23:43:59 <brainycmurf> #link https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting-2/2023-05-02/workstation.2023-05-02-20.59.log.html
23:44:02 <brainycmurf> #endmeeting