22:24:10 <brainycmurf> #startmeeting Workstation WG (2023-07-18)
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22:24:11 <brainycmurf> #meetingname workstation
22:24:11 <zodbot> The meeting name has been set to 'workstation'
22:24:11 <brainycmurf> #chair Allan
22:24:11 <zodbot> Current chairs: Allan brainycmurf
22:24:34 <brainycmurf> #info Present members: Michael, Neal, Allan, Chris, Matthias, Jens
22:24:34 <brainycmurf> #info Guests: Luna Jernberg(bittin), Mike
22:24:34 <brainycmurf> #info Regrets: Tomas, Kalev
22:24:34 <brainycmurf> #info Missing: Owen
22:24:34 <brainycmurf> #info Secretary: Allan
22:24:35 <brainycmurf> #topic Privacy-preserving Telemetry for Fedora Workstation
22:24:37 <brainycmurf> #link https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/Telemetry
22:24:39 <brainycmurf> Last week we decided to wait before we endorse the proposal
22:24:41 <brainycmurf> Michael: discussion has been ongoing, the feedback section has been filled out. A revision of the wiki page is not complete yet.
22:24:44 <brainycmurf> Benefit to fedora was something we felt was missing last week. That still doesn't exist yet.
22:24:46 <brainycmurf> Michael has asked that Fesco doesn't make a decision yet.
22:24:48 <brainycmurf> We'd prefer until we have the updated proposal before making a decision.
22:24:50 <brainycmurf> Are there other changes we'd like to see?
22:24:52 <brainycmurf> * Details on how the data will be shared with different groups - working groups, upstreams
22:24:54 <brainycmurf> * Details on how hardware data can be fed back to OEMs
22:24:56 <brainycmurf> * Maybe mention how locale info will be useful for the i18n team
22:25:00 <brainycmurf> * Can we have a web page with a live analysis view of the collected data?
22:25:02 <brainycmurf> * An app for viewing the data before it's sent? Should it be pre-installed?
22:25:04 <brainycmurf> * Set out a process for how Fedora contributors can request metrics
22:25:06 <brainycmurf> * What is going to be collected? When is it going to be collected? People will care about the small details in this regard.
22:25:09 <brainycmurf> #topic Anaconda webui status
22:25:11 <brainycmurf> #link https://pagure.io/fedora-workstation/issue/242
22:25:13 <brainycmurf> We still don't have a preview image with the desktop integration (floating window, quit button powers off)
22:25:16 <brainycmurf> gnome-initial-setup live session hasn't made progress
22:25:18 <brainycmurf> Design questions are being asked regarding what the installer session will be like, how apps can be launched during install (for disk configuration, terminal for debugging)
22:25:21 <brainycmurf> Time is short...
22:25:23 <brainycmurf> #topic New image viewer and camera apps
22:25:25 <brainycmurf> #link https://pagure.io/fedora-workstation/issue/348
22:25:27 <brainycmurf> #link https://pagure.io/fedora-workstation/issue/166
22:25:31 <brainycmurf> Loupe will be replacing eog in GNOME 45
22:25:33 <brainycmurf> Snapshot will probably be approved soon, maybe even today
22:25:35 <brainycmurf> We still don't have packages for either app
22:25:37 <brainycmurf> #topic Improve the problem reporting UI
22:25:39 <brainycmurf> #link https://pagure.io/fedora-workstation/issue/386
22:25:41 <brainycmurf> #Deferred until next week
22:25:43 <brainycmurf> #topic Announcements and status updates
22:25:45 <brainycmurf> FESCo approved Image Builder based Workstation images to be built as alternate non-blocking images to allow the Image Builder team time to build out required functionality to support all Fedora live images
22:25:48 <brainycmurf> #link https://pagure.io/fesco/issue/3030#comment-864622
22:25:50 <brainycmurf> GUADEC 2023 in Riga and online next week: http://guadec.org 26-31th July (Matthias, Kalev, Allan will be there)
22:25:53 <brainycmurf> and Flock 2023 in Ireland in two weeks: https://flocktofedora.org/ - 2-5 August
22:25:55 <brainycmurf> Minutes from last week:
22:25:57 <brainycmurf> #link https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting-2/2023-07-13/workstation.2023-07-13-13.10.log.html
22:26:02 <brainycmurf> #endmeeting