22:24:10 #startmeeting Workstation WG (2023-07-18) 22:24:10 Meeting started Wed Jul 19 22:24:10 2023 UTC. 22:24:10 This meeting is logged and archived in a public location. 22:24:10 The chair is brainycmurf. Information about MeetBot at https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Zodbot#Meeting_Functions. 22:24:10 Useful Commands: #action #agreed #halp #info #idea #link #topic. 22:24:10 The meeting name has been set to 'workstation_wg_(2023-07-18)' 22:24:11 #meetingname workstation 22:24:11 The meeting name has been set to 'workstation' 22:24:11 #chair Allan 22:24:11 Current chairs: Allan brainycmurf 22:24:34 #info Present members: Michael, Neal, Allan, Chris, Matthias, Jens 22:24:34 #info Guests: Luna Jernberg(bittin), Mike 22:24:34 #info Regrets: Tomas, Kalev 22:24:34 #info Missing: Owen 22:24:34 #info Secretary: Allan 22:24:35 #topic Privacy-preserving Telemetry for Fedora Workstation 22:24:37 #link https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/Telemetry 22:24:39 Last week we decided to wait before we endorse the proposal 22:24:41 Michael: discussion has been ongoing, the feedback section has been filled out. A revision of the wiki page is not complete yet. 22:24:44 Benefit to fedora was something we felt was missing last week. That still doesn't exist yet. 22:24:46 Michael has asked that Fesco doesn't make a decision yet. 22:24:48 We'd prefer until we have the updated proposal before making a decision. 22:24:50 Are there other changes we'd like to see? 22:24:52 * Details on how the data will be shared with different groups - working groups, upstreams 22:24:54 * Details on how hardware data can be fed back to OEMs 22:24:56 * Maybe mention how locale info will be useful for the i18n team 22:25:00 * Can we have a web page with a live analysis view of the collected data? 22:25:02 * An app for viewing the data before it's sent? Should it be pre-installed? 22:25:04 * Set out a process for how Fedora contributors can request metrics 22:25:06 * What is going to be collected? When is it going to be collected? People will care about the small details in this regard. 22:25:09 #topic Anaconda webui status 22:25:11 #link https://pagure.io/fedora-workstation/issue/242 22:25:13 We still don't have a preview image with the desktop integration (floating window, quit button powers off) 22:25:16 gnome-initial-setup live session hasn't made progress 22:25:18 Design questions are being asked regarding what the installer session will be like, how apps can be launched during install (for disk configuration, terminal for debugging) 22:25:21 Time is short... 22:25:23 #topic New image viewer and camera apps 22:25:25 #link https://pagure.io/fedora-workstation/issue/348 22:25:27 #link https://pagure.io/fedora-workstation/issue/166 22:25:31 Loupe will be replacing eog in GNOME 45 22:25:33 Snapshot will probably be approved soon, maybe even today 22:25:35 We still don't have packages for either app 22:25:37 #topic Improve the problem reporting UI 22:25:39 #link https://pagure.io/fedora-workstation/issue/386 22:25:41 #Deferred until next week 22:25:43 #topic Announcements and status updates 22:25:45 FESCo approved Image Builder based Workstation images to be built as alternate non-blocking images to allow the Image Builder team time to build out required functionality to support all Fedora live images 22:25:48 #link https://pagure.io/fesco/issue/3030#comment-864622 22:25:50 GUADEC 2023 in Riga and online next week: http://guadec.org 26-31th July (Matthias, Kalev, Allan will be there) 22:25:53 and Flock 2023 in Ireland in two weeks: https://flocktofedora.org/ - 2-5 August 22:25:55 Minutes from last week: 22:25:57 #link https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting-2/2023-07-13/workstation.2023-07-13-13.10.log.html 22:26:02 #endmeeting