04:31:36 <brainycmurf> #startmeeting Workstation WG (2023-09-12)
04:31:36 <zodbot> Meeting started Fri Sep 15 04:31:36 2023 UTC.
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04:31:36 <brainycmurf> #meetingname workstation
04:31:36 <zodbot> The meeting name has been set to 'workstation'
04:31:36 <brainycmurf> #chair Allan
04:31:36 <zodbot> Current chairs: Allan brainycmurf
04:31:36 <brainycmurf> #info Present members: Michael, Allan, Kalev, Owen, Jens, Neal
04:31:36 <brainycmurf> #info Guests:
04:31:38 <brainycmurf> #info Regrets: Chris, Tomas, Matthias
04:31:40 <brainycmurf> #info Missing:
04:31:42 <brainycmurf> #info Secretary: Michael
04:31:44 <brainycmurf> #topic anaconda web UI status
04:31:46 <brainycmurf> #link https://pagure.io/fesco/issue/3066
04:31:48 <brainycmurf> Fedora QA has proposed deferring anaconda web UI change to F40
04:31:50 <brainycmurf> Currently still a high number of beta blocker issues and very high number of freeze exception issues
04:31:53 <brainycmurf> Neal is concerned about status of anaconda redesign, wants to defer it
04:31:55 <brainycmurf> Also worried that more issues might be discovered after beta release
04:31:57 <brainycmurf> Jiri thinks blocker issues can be resolved today. The bug where anaconda is unable to handle two btrfs volumes with the same name would be temporarily handled by showing an error message until the underlying problem can be fixed.
04:32:01 <brainycmurf> Neal suggests using new installer only for special testing or test week images, not for F39 beta release
04:32:04 <brainycmurf> Allan suggests FESCo should decide this. Neal reminds us that this is a Workstation-specific change so our opinion matters.
04:32:09 <brainycmurf> Several working group members are impressed with overall progress on the redesign and quick work on resolving issues.
04:32:12 <brainycmurf> Owen: to receive more feedback on the installer, we need to ship it more broadly
04:32:14 <brainycmurf> Jiri is concerned we won't get as much user feedback if the new installer UI is hidden behind a boot option
04:32:17 <brainycmurf> Jiri asks about reverting gnome-initial-setup changes as well. Michael proposes to work out these details after the meeting.
04:32:20 <brainycmurf> #topic Other F39 blockers
04:32:22 <brainycmurf> #link https://qa.fedoraproject.org/blockerbugs/milestone/39/beta/buglist
04:32:24 <brainycmurf> #link https://qa.fedoraproject.org/blockerbugs/milestone/39/final/buglist
04:32:26 <brainycmurf> Most of the blocker bugs are not Workstation-related, so we in decent shape
04:32:28 <brainycmurf> There is an unresolved Calendar final blocker. Milan has looked at the bug but decided it needs to be investigated by Georges, the upstream maintainer.
04:32:31 <brainycmurf> #topic Fractional scaling
04:32:33 <brainycmurf> #link https://pagure.io/fedora-workstation/issue/357
04:32:37 <brainycmurf> Deferred to next week
04:32:39 <brainycmurf> #topic F39 readiness
04:32:41 <brainycmurf> #link https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/workstation-working-group/schedule/
04:32:43 <brainycmurf> 20 September - GNOME 45.0 release date
04:32:45 <brainycmurf> 26 September - start tracking workstation release marketing (blog post, website screenshot updates)
04:32:48 <brainycmurf> 4th October - Flatpak updates to start rolling out around this date
04:32:50 <brainycmurf> 17 October - early release target
04:32:52 <brainycmurf> Reminder: the screenshots on the new website need to be updated (but not until default wallpaper stops changing)
04:32:55 <brainycmurf> #topic Status indicators
04:32:57 <brainycmurf> #link https://pagure.io/fedora-workstation/issue/246
04:32:59 <brainycmurf> Deferred to next week
04:33:01 <brainycmurf> #topic F39 target features
04:33:03 <brainycmurf> We had a set of changes that we were hoping to land for F39 but which didn't work out. These included:
04:33:08 <brainycmurf> * Automatically install the OpenH264 codecs - https://pagure.io/fedora-workstation/issue/84
04:33:10 <brainycmurf> * Replace Cheese with Snapshot as the default camera application - https://pagure.io/fedora-workstation/issue/166
04:33:13 <brainycmurf> * Consider limiting journal size - https://pagure.io/fedora-workstation/issue/213
04:33:15 <brainycmurf> * Enable full preemption - https://pagure.io/fedora-workstation/issue/228
04:33:17 <brainycmurf> * Uninstall Anaconda post-install - https://pagure.io/fedora-workstation/issue/242
04:33:19 <brainycmurf> Deferred to next week
04:33:21 <brainycmurf> #topic Announcements and status updates
04:33:23 <brainycmurf> Neal: Fedora KDE is dropping X11 session as part of the Plasma 6 upgrade in Fedora Linux 40 - https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/KDE_Plasma_6
04:33:26 <brainycmurf> Michael: we should do this with mutter too...
04:33:28 <brainycmurf> Michael: switcheroo-control and iio-sensor-proxy upstream repos got new maintainers and have been unarchived
04:33:31 <brainycmurf> The minutes from last week have been posted.
04:33:33 <brainycmurf> #link https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting-2/2023-09-07/workstation.2023-09-07-11.01.log.html
04:33:38 <brainycmurf> #endmeeting