01:49:01 #startmeeting Workstation WG (2024-01-23) 01:49:01 Meeting started Wed Jan 24 01:49:01 2024 UTC. 01:49:01 This meeting is logged and archived in a public location. 01:49:01 The chair is brainycmurf. Information about MeetBot at https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Zodbot#Meeting_Functions. 01:49:01 Useful Commands: #action #agreed #halp #info #idea #link #topic. 01:49:01 The meeting name has been set to 'workstation_wg_(2024-01-23)' 01:49:01 #meetingname workstation 01:49:01 #chair Michael 01:49:01 The meeting name has been set to 'workstation' 01:49:01 Current chairs: Michael brainycmurf 01:49:01 #info Present members: Michael, Allan, Chris, Kalev, Tomas, Owen, Matthias, Jens, Neal 01:49:01 #info Guests: 01:49:14 There are some problems with Toolbx requiring subscription-manager, apparently subscription manager prints extra messages into DNF output, DNF is preinstalled on Silverblue 01:49:17 The question whether we need Subscription manager in Fedora, only Tomas in favor. 01:49:19 It would be good if subscription manager had a simpler CLI/API for Fedora without all the advanced bits so we could include it. 01:49:22 Another option could be if subscription manager would be part of the Toolbx image 01:49:24 Outcome: Working group is not in favor of including the subscription manager in its current form in Fedora. 01:49:27 #topic Downloading updates in Software failing due to Google Chrome repo signing 01:49:31 #link https://pagure.io/fedora-workstation/issue/409 01:49:33 It might be problem with our repository definition, needs follow-up after the meeting 01:49:35 #topic Fractional scaling 01:49:37 #link https://pagure.io/fedora-workstation/issue/357 01:49:39 There will be upstream GNOME work made by "verde" to further improve the current situation ("xwayland" branch that Jonas was working on) and also some small changes are required in the proposed UI in the GNOME Control Center. Michael, Kalev and Neal mentioned that we're pushing this in front of us for several Fedora releases and we might be losing users because of this (as i.e. Ubuntu does have some downstream changes 01:49:44 that enable it) and we might only allow ourselves just one final slip. We will check in few months how the upstream work looks like. 01:49:47 #topic Give ABRT some ❤ 01:49:49 #link https://pagure.io/fedora-workstation/issue/130 01:49:51 Tomas will ping Michal Srb 01:49:53 #topic Announcements and status updates 01:49:55 Kalev mentioned that David King is working on the GNOME related packaging in Fedora this cycle. He's also onboarding Nieves Montero at the same time to help him. 01:49:58 #topic Minutes from last week 01:50:02 https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting-2/2024-01-17/workstation.2024-01-17-00.07.log.html 01:50:05 #endmeeting