16:49:49 <brainycmurf> #startmeeting Workstation WG (2024-03-12)
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16:49:50 <brainycmurf> #meetingname workstation
16:49:50 <zodbot> The meeting name has been set to 'workstation'
16:49:50 <brainycmurf> #chair Michael
16:49:50 <brainycmurf> #info Present members: Michael, Jens, Neal, Tomas, Owen, Matthias
16:49:50 <brainycmurf> #info Guests:
16:49:50 <zodbot> Current chairs: Michael brainycmurf
16:49:50 <brainycmurf> #info Regrets: Kalev, Allan
16:49:52 <brainycmurf> #info Missing:
16:49:54 <brainycmurf> #info Secretary: Owen
16:49:56 <brainycmurf> Agenda
16:49:58 <brainycmurf> #topic Give ABRT some ❤
16:50:02 <brainycmurf> #link https://pagure.io/fedora-workstation/issue/130
16:50:04 <brainycmurf> * Michael proposes that we stop installing the GUI, but still install the backend. Anonymous backtraces will be filed in the background with retrace.fedoraproject.org. There will be no notifications to the user (also provided by the frontend.)
16:50:08 <brainycmurf> * Jens asks whether No UI is actually an improvement over the the current UI (with problems).
16:50:10 <brainycmurf> * Neal (mostly seriously) suggests that we use AI to analyze the stack traces on retrace.fedoraproject.org.
16:50:13 <brainycmurf> * Owen asks is whether we have enough stack traces correlated with bug fixes / summaries / etc.
16:50:16 <brainycmurf> * UI refresh would be a good GSOC project, but Fedora wasn't selected for GSOC this year.
16:50:18 <brainycmurf> * No consensus on simply removing the frontend.
16:50:20 <brainycmurf> #action (on various) see if there's a way to get more cross-distro traction for ABRT.
16:50:22 <brainycmurf> #topic F40 beta blockers
16:50:24 <brainycmurf> * Quite a few gnome-shell proposed blockers
16:50:26 <brainycmurf> #action mclasen to reach out to the gnome-shell team
16:50:28 <brainycmurf> #topic Announcements and status updates
16:50:32 <brainycmurf> #info F40 beta will ship with GNOME 46 beta, rather than GNOME 46 rc, because of bugs in the RC - Fedora Exceptions to upgrade were rejected for that reason.
16:50:35 <brainycmurf> #topic Minutes from last week
16:50:37 <brainycmurf> #link https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting-2/2024-03-06/workstation.2024-03-06-02.59.log.html
16:50:40 <brainycmurf> #endmeeting