20:00:00 <nmilosev> #startmeeting EMEA ambassadors 2017-02-15
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20:00:05 <nmilosev> #meetingname emea_ambassadors
20:00:05 <zodbot> The meeting name has been set to 'emea_ambassadors'
20:00:10 <nmilosev> #topic Roll Call
20:00:16 <nmilosev> .fas nmilosev
20:00:18 <zodbot> nmilosev: nmilosev 'Nemanja Milosevic' <nmilosevnm@gmail.com>
20:00:27 <Kohane> .fas lailah
20:00:27 <zodbot> Kohane: lailah 'Sylvia Sánchez' <BHKohane@gmail.com>
20:02:02 <nmilosev> Hello everyone and welcome to another regular meeting for the EMEA region. Let's wait a few more minutes for others to show up.
20:02:09 <nmilosev> Please note the meeting protocol is in order: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/How_to_use_IRC#Meeting_Protocol - Use ‘!’ to ask for permission to speak, or ‘?’ to ask a question. End with ‘eof’.
20:02:12 <JacobCZ> .fas jacobcz
20:02:13 <zodbot> JacobCZ: jacobcz 'Jakub Sycha' <jakubsycha@gmail.com>
20:02:15 <nmilosev> We will have another topic for tonight which is the migration to pagure.io for our ticket tracking system. But first:
20:02:41 <nmilosev> #topic Announcements
20:02:47 <nmilosev> #info FOSDEM 2017 talks (some still uploading, transcoding)
20:02:51 <nmilosev> #link https://video.fosdem.org/2017/
20:02:58 <nmilosev> #info Google Summer of Code 2017: mentorships and other information
20:03:02 <nmilosev> #link https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/GSOC_2017
20:03:07 <nmilosev> #info Fedora 26 Mass Rebuild
20:03:11 <nmilosev> #link https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/devel-announce@lists.fedoraproject.org/thread/QAMEEWUG7ND5E7LQYXQSQLRUDQPSBINA/
20:03:20 <nmilosev> #info The future of Fedora QA
20:03:25 <nmilosev> #link https://www.happyassassin.net/2017/02/12/the-future-of-fedora-qa/
20:03:30 <nmilosev> #info The Next Big Things: 2017 Edition
20:03:35 <nmilosev> #link http://paul.frields.org/2017/02/09/next-big-things-2017-edition/
20:03:44 <nmilosev> That's quite a few :)
20:03:52 <nmilosev> Anything I missed?
20:04:38 <nmilosev> Let's wait a bit more, seems everyone is late.
20:05:23 * nmilosev wonders why everyone is skipping these meetings
20:05:36 <Kohane> I don't know....
20:05:45 <Kohane> I'm here! LOL
20:05:45 <nmilosev> Maybe the time is bad, too late?
20:05:59 <JacobCZ> (I'm going to have to leave early today :D )
20:06:22 <Kohane> Maybe, but if it was earlier maybe it would be fall in office hours?
20:06:40 <nmilosev> Yeah, maybe another day. I should write about it to the list.
20:07:11 <nmilosev> #action nmilosev to write to the mailing list about low ambassador presence on EMEA meetings
20:07:25 <nmilosev> Let's get to the rest of the meeting.
20:07:29 <Kohane> yes
20:07:33 <nmilosev> #topic Migration to pagure
20:07:38 <nmilosev> #info FedoraHosted sunset: 2017-02-28
20:07:43 <nmilosev> #link https://communityblog.fedoraproject.org/fedorahosted-sunset-2017-02-28/
20:07:59 <nmilosev> So as we know, trac is going away.
20:08:20 <nmilosev> We are moving to pagure.io and all the tickets are going to be there (for swag, reimbursements etc.)
20:08:46 <Kohane> Does this mean that we have to have everything migrated by February 28th?
20:09:07 <nmilosev> Since pagure.io doesn't have things like CLA+1 only access, bex proposed a solution:
20:09:10 <nmilosev> #link https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/ambassadors@lists.fedoraproject.org/message/GN4N7BINMEPKIVL3A56WEK5C4BANSMHD/
20:09:13 <nmilosev> Kohane, yep
20:09:35 <nmilosev> Fortunately the migration is easy, because busy pagure devs wrote tools to automate it :)
20:09:45 <nmilosev> #info tools for transfering tickets to pagure.io
20:09:49 <nmilosev> #link https://pagure.io/pagure-importer
20:09:53 <nmilosev> #link http://directory.fedoraproject.org/docs/389ds/howto/howto-migrate-to-pagure.html
20:10:05 <Kohane> nmilosev: wait, give me a second to read please
20:10:11 <nmilosev> Sure sure :)
20:10:42 <nmilosev> The gist of it is: let's say ambassador A wants to request swag or funding
20:11:00 <nmilosev> A opens a ticket in the emea-ambassadors pagure (which we should make) and which is public
20:11:17 <Kohane> yes....
20:11:23 <nmilosev> We vote on the ticket and if it approved, A opens another ticket in fedora-budget pagure
20:11:42 <nmilosev> This ticket (issue) is private, and only A and fedora-budget owners can see it
20:11:48 <nmilosev> This is good because:
20:11:59 <nmilosev> (a) A's information (address, etc.) remains private
20:12:11 <nmilosev> (b) it's easier for fedora-budget to have all the info at one place
20:12:35 <nmilosev> A should of course link the public issue from emea-ambassadors to the fedora-budget
20:12:39 <nmilosev> Easy :)
20:13:03 <Kohane> yes, the bad thing is that it adds a second step to the process, but I think is fine.
20:13:13 <nmilosev> Yes, but there are benefits also to it
20:13:36 <nmilosev> Anyway, I was thinking to ask if someone wants to do the migration, but since only you and I are here :D
20:13:44 <Kohane> All in all, we can try this solution and see how it works. If it brings any complication for whatever reasons we'll see how to sort it out.
20:14:20 <nmilosev> #action nmilosev to migrate trac to new pagure.io repository (if someone wants to do this instead, write to nmilosev)
20:14:23 <Kohane> I don't know how to make the migration.
20:14:39 <nmilosev> It's ok, I have a bit of experience with pagure already so we are good :)
20:14:47 <Kohane> Good.
20:14:55 <nmilosev> You like the bex's idea?
20:15:02 <Kohane> Yup.
20:15:05 <nmilosev> I think it's pretty good :)
20:15:11 <Kohane> Yes, it is.
20:15:29 <nmilosev> Okay, let's keep this short then, I just hope everyone reads the logs.
20:15:36 <Kohane> Me too.
20:15:38 <nmilosev> #topic Requests
20:15:41 <nmilosev> #link https://fedorahosted.org/emea-swag-tracking/report/1?sort=created&asc=0&page=1
20:15:46 <nmilosev> #link http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Ambassadors/EMEA/Budget
20:15:49 <nmilosev> #link https://pagure.io/fedora-budget
20:15:54 <nmilosev> #info Ticket #651 - T-Shirts: Fedora Proud user (for FOSDEM)
20:15:58 <nmilosev> #link https://fedorahosted.org/emea-swag-tracking/ticket/651
20:16:20 <nmilosev> So we should have voted on this, but I missed the ticket earlier. Sadly we can't vote because there is less than 5 of us.
20:16:22 <Kohane> I have a question related to swag and expenses but not specifically to this.
20:16:35 <nmilosev> Go for it, maybe I can answer
20:17:22 <Kohane> I would like to organise a Fedora event, maybe a release party, But I don't know where or how should I do this to request reimbursement.
20:18:26 <nmilosev> On the trac/pagure, you open an issue with the requested amount, we vote on it, if it's approved you provide invoices and get reimbursed to your PayPal
20:18:29 <Kohane> I mean, there's a budget assigned every year for each region, and I remember filling a wiki last year, but...  I can't find the same for the current year and budget...
20:18:36 <Kohane> Ah, okay
20:18:46 <nmilosev> Current budget is work in progress still as far as I know
20:18:55 <Kohane> Oh, I see
20:18:56 <nmilosev> Ping mitzie on telegram :)
20:19:04 <Kohane> Haha, okay.
20:19:19 <nmilosev> #agreed Ticket #651 postponed (not enough people to vote)
20:19:24 <Kohane> yes
20:19:28 <nmilosev> #info Ticket #654 - Funding request for Fabian Affolter for CLT 2017
20:19:32 <nmilosev> #link https://fedorahosted.org/emea-swag-tracking/ticket/654
20:19:49 <Kohane> this is the same, we're not enough to vote
20:19:51 <nmilosev> #info budget is fine with this (mitzie confirmed to nmilosev)
20:19:57 <Kohane> okay
20:19:59 <nmilosev> #agreed Ticket #654 postponed (not enough people to vote)
20:20:10 <nmilosev> #topic Ambassadors Schedule
20:20:16 <nmilosev> #link https://fedorapeople.org/groups/schedule/f-26/f-26-ambassadors-tasks.html
20:20:38 <nmilosev> #topic Events
20:20:52 <nmilosev> Kohane, where are you organizing the event? :)
20:21:12 <Kohane> Germany, most likely Frankfurt.
20:21:45 <nmilosev> Awesome! Is it F26 release party or more general Fedora event?
20:22:05 <Kohane> My idea was asking the university a place. Bockenheimer Warte campus uses both Fedora and CentOS
20:22:35 <nmilosev> Universities are in my experience open to these kinds of ideas
20:22:45 <nmilosev> Because they promote free software :)
20:23:00 <Kohane> Yes, this one does it indeed.
20:23:13 <rsc> .hello robert
20:23:13 <nmilosev> Okay, let's move on.
20:23:13 <zodbot> rsc: robert 'Robert Scheck' <redhat@linuxnetz.de>
20:23:20 * nmilosev o/ robert
20:23:34 <Kohane> Hi robert
20:23:50 <rsc> (sorry, didn't look to the clock)
20:23:54 <nmilosev> rsc, sadly can't vote on your ticket (not enough people)
20:23:58 <nmilosev> budget is +1 though
20:24:08 <rsc> nmilosev: my ticket?
20:24:16 <nmilosev> I thought it was your ticket
20:24:23 <Kohane> yes, we need 5 people present. Or more.
20:24:23 <rsc> ah, Fabian.
20:24:35 <nmilosev> Ah, you opened the swag one, sorry
20:25:03 <rsc> (hoping that swag shipping still works without voting ;-P)
20:25:09 <nmilosev> yep! :)
20:25:14 <nmilosev> #topic Action items from previous meetings
20:25:19 <nmilosev> #link https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/teams/emea_ambassadors/emea_ambassadors.2017-02-01-20.00.html
20:25:24 <nmilosev> #info 1. jonatoni to contact mhroncok, bexelbie regarding the budget for this (ticket #652)
20:25:28 <nmilosev> #info Resolved in the trac (ticket closed)
20:25:32 <nmilosev> #link https://fedorahosted.org/emea-swag-tracking/ticket/652
20:26:11 <nmilosev> #topic Open Floor
20:26:19 <nmilosev> I'm really sad about this meeting
20:26:25 <Kohane> yes, me too
20:26:47 <nmilosev> I remember a couple of months ago, 10+ people were constantly attending
20:26:54 <Kohane> FAmSCo was a stressing meeting but I wanted to attend this one anyway. :(
20:27:13 <Kohane> yes, that's true
20:27:44 <Kohane> I don't know why it dropped so much....
20:28:00 <nmilosev> We can wrap it up if that's it, I'll write to the list about pagure.io migration and about possible meeting time change.
20:28:05 <nmilosev> Oh forgot this:
20:28:22 <nmilosev> #info FedoCal is updated with the proper timing for EMEA meetings (thanks sesivany)
20:28:22 <Kohane> what?
20:28:31 <nmilosev> yay
20:28:31 <Kohane> ah
20:28:33 <nmilosev> :)
20:28:35 <Kohane> yes!
20:29:19 <Kohane> that's cool, I remember having some confusion with meeting times haha
20:30:06 <nmilosev> I guess that's it, thanks Kohane, rsc and JacobCZ for attending. See you in two weeks.
20:30:10 <nmilosev> #endmeeting