2024-07-10 18:00:23 <@tdawson:fedora.im> !startmeeting EPEL (2024-07-10)
2024-07-10 18:00:24 <@meetbot:fedora.im> Meeting started at 2024-07-10 18:00:23 UTC
2024-07-10 18:00:24 <@meetbot:fedora.im> The Meeting name is 'EPEL (2024-07-10)'
2024-07-10 18:00:31 <@tdawson:fedora.im> !meetingname epel
2024-07-10 18:00:32 <@meetbot:fedora.im> The Meeting Name is now epel
2024-07-10 18:00:37 <@tdawson:fedora.im> !topic aloha
2024-07-10 18:00:39 <@salimma:fedora.im> !hi
2024-07-10 18:00:40 <@zodbot:fedora.im> Michel Lind (salimma) - he / him / his
2024-07-10 18:00:43 <@conan_kudo:matrix.org> !hi
2024-07-10 18:00:44 <@carlwgeorge:matrix.org> !hi
2024-07-10 18:00:44 <@zodbot:fedora.im> Neal Gompa (ngompa) - he / him / his
2024-07-10 18:00:46 <@zodbot:fedora.im> Carl George (carlwgeorge) - he / him / his
2024-07-10 18:00:54 <@jrichardson:matrix.org> !hi
2024-07-10 18:00:56 <@zodbot:fedora.im> James Richardson (jrichardson)
2024-07-10 18:00:56 <@tdawson:fedora.im> Hi Michel Lind 🎩 Conan Kudo and Carl George 
2024-07-10 18:00:57 <@davide:cavalca.name> !hi
2024-07-10 18:00:59 <@zodbot:fedora.im> Davide Cavalca (dcavalca) - he / him / his
2024-07-10 18:01:10 <@tdawson:fedora.im> Hi James Richardson and Davide Cavalca 
2024-07-10 18:02:21 <@smooge:fedora.im> hi
2024-07-10 18:02:30 <@nirik:matrix.scrye.com> morning
2024-07-10 18:02:40 <@nhanlon:beeper.com> hi
2024-07-10 18:03:10 <@nhanlon:beeper.com> (misclick sorry)
2024-07-10 18:03:20 <@tdawson:fedora.im> Morning nirik 
2024-07-10 18:04:06 <@tdawson:fedora.im> Hi Stephen J Smoogen  and Mister Neil Hanlon  Misclick. :)
2024-07-10 18:05:14 <@tdawson:fedora.im> !topic End Of Life (EOL)
2024-07-10 18:05:19 <@tdawson:fedora.im> RHEL 7 / epel-7 went EOL on 2024-06-30
2024-07-10 18:05:30 <@tdawson:fedora.im> - File releng issue to EOL epel7 - carl
2024-07-10 18:05:30 <@tdawson:fedora.im> - have epel8-release obsolete epel8-next - carl
2024-07-10 18:05:30 <@tdawson:fedora.im> - Close bugzillas  - tdawson
2024-07-10 18:05:30 <@tdawson:fedora.im> - Write-up SOP - Smooge
2024-07-10 18:05:35 <@nhanlon:beeper.com> okay maybe I'm really here. i thought i clicked into the wrong meeting cause it wasn't showing me any messages lol
2024-07-10 18:05:53 <@salimma:fedora.im> I just use my fedora.im account for all Fedora meetings :P
2024-07-10 18:06:08 <@salimma:fedora.im> using it from a federated instance is just too glitchy for anything that requires fast replies
2024-07-10 18:06:11 <@nhanlon:beeper.com> yeahhh i should probably get in that habit
2024-07-10 18:06:22 <@tdawson:fedora.im> I have closed all the epel7 bugzilla's.
2024-07-10 18:06:50 <@tdawson:fedora.im> And, sorry about the wierd \n in the majority of the messages.  I really should have done one, then looked at it before blasting through.
2024-07-10 18:06:59 <@conan_kudo:matrix.org> thanks for closing all the epel7 bugs
2024-07-10 18:07:10 <@conan_kudo:matrix.org> it flooded my email a bit, but I still appreciate it :)
2024-07-10 18:07:33 <@salimma:fedora.im> yeah, I can now look at my Django stack bugs and know everything is actionable :D
2024-07-10 18:08:19 <@nirik:matrix.scrye.com> yeah, +1, thanks for closing.
2024-07-10 18:08:31 <@tdawson:fedora.im> Carl's epel8-release has made it through to stable, so that is done.
2024-07-10 18:09:10 <@carlwgeorge:matrix.org> i still owe Stephen J Smoogen a review of the sop pr, i started going through and had a few thoughts but haven't written them all down
2024-07-10 18:09:42 <@tdawson:fedora.im> Same with me (about smooges pr)
2024-07-10 18:09:49 <@salimma:fedora.im> I still owe a PR for Django policy, which is timely because some CVEs just got announced yesterday
2024-07-10 18:09:59 <@salimma:fedora.im> (thank you Neil Hanlon for putting up a PR for the main Django package)
2024-07-10 18:11:55 <@nirik:matrix.scrye.com> I started retagging epel7 builds in, but my laptop crashed last night, so will need to resume it
2024-07-10 18:11:57 <@tdawson:fedora.im>  Stephen J Smoogen 's pull request - https://pagure.io/epel/pull-request/280
2024-07-10 18:12:30 <@tdawson:fedora.im> Thank you nirik  ... have you got the script that keeps untagging them, stopped, or properly configured?
2024-07-10 18:13:56 <@nirik:matrix.scrye.com> yep
2024-07-10 18:14:12 <@nirik:matrix.scrye.com> and that script is going away anyhow, the new one will use 'active' releases from bodhi
2024-07-10 18:14:29 <@tdawson:fedora.im> Oh, that sounds like a better idea.
2024-07-10 18:15:16 <@tdawson:fedora.im> Any other EOL stuff before we move on?
2024-07-10 18:15:29 <@carlwgeorge:matrix.org> Yes
2024-07-10 18:16:27 <@carlwgeorge:matrix.org> !link https://pagure.io/releng/issue/11292#comment-916924
2024-07-10 18:17:08 <@carlwgeorge:matrix.org> we never actually archived epel8-modular or reconfigured mirrormanager to point at said archive
2024-07-10 18:17:51 <@tdawson:fedora.im> Ourch
2024-07-10 18:17:58 <@tdawson:fedora.im> Ouch
2024-07-10 18:18:57 <@carlwgeorge:matrix.org> not a huge priority (it's waited this long) but definitely worth resolving eventually
2024-07-10 18:19:00 <@nirik:matrix.scrye.com> well, no one seems to have cared, but sure.
2024-07-10 18:19:21 <@carlwgeorge:matrix.org> there are definitely still requests for epel-modular-8 in countme data
2024-07-10 18:20:25 <@tdawson:fedora.im> Did you want to open a seperate issue?  Or were you planning on re-opening that one?
2024-07-10 18:20:41 <@carlwgeorge:matrix.org> it's re-opened
2024-07-10 18:21:24 <@tdawson:fedora.im> I'm obvervant. :)
2024-07-10 18:21:40 <@carlwgeorge:matrix.org> just bring it up for awareness, we can move on
2024-07-10 18:21:46 <@tdawson:fedora.im> OK, I've put that on our list of things to report on next week.
2024-07-10 18:22:02 <@tdawson:fedora.im> And moving on.
2024-07-10 18:22:11 <@tdawson:fedora.im> !topic EPEL Issues https://pagure.io/epel/issues
2024-07-10 18:22:17 <@tdawson:fedora.im> https://pagure.io/epel/issues?tags=meeting&status=Open
2024-07-10 18:22:30 <@tdawson:fedora.im> We don't have any issues marked as meeting
2024-07-10 18:22:46 <@tdawson:fedora.im> But we do have the clamav update  we were going to talk about.
2024-07-10 18:23:35 <@salimma:fedora.im> oh fun
2024-07-10 18:24:09 <@tdawson:fedora.im> He did send an email, saying what he was going to do.  Do we feel it is good enough?
2024-07-10 18:24:40 <@tdawson:fedora.im> https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/epel-devel@lists.fedoraproject.org/thread/EC7IWSDEYYQQS4MQQ4OJYIMEB4RWIBFU/
2024-07-10 18:25:40 <@smooge:fedora.im> having dealt with and tried to maintain clamav in the past.. I think its fine
2024-07-10 18:25:52 <@carlwgeorge:matrix.org> good enough for the "send email to epel-devel" step, sure, but there are other steps
2024-07-10 18:26:03 <@nirik:matrix.scrye.com> did the dependent packages get rebuilt?
2024-07-10 18:26:09 <@carlwgeorge:matrix.org> in particular, there are packages that need to be rebuilt with it
2024-07-10 18:26:09 <@smooge:fedora.im> this is not an easy package to deal with and pretty much any update can be world-breaking but if you don't update you are leaving people in worse case
2024-07-10 18:26:22 <@carlwgeorge:matrix.org> we also added the requirement to file an epel issue for steering committee vote
2024-07-10 18:26:42 <@salimma:fedora.im> so... since no issue is filed yet... what should we do here
2024-07-10 18:26:47 <@salimma:fedora.im> remind on the list?
2024-07-10 18:27:02 <@tdawson:fedora.im> Neither of the dependant packages have been rebuilt.
2024-07-10 18:27:05 <@carlwgeorge:matrix.org> in general i'm in favor of an incompat update here because of the nature of the software, but we have the steps for a reason
2024-07-10 18:27:16 <@salimma:fedora.im> yeah
2024-07-10 18:27:26 <@tdawson:fedora.im> Ya, let's remind them on the email list.
2024-07-10 18:27:29 <@carlwgeorge:matrix.org> this maintainer has a bit of a history with ignoring policies
2024-07-10 18:27:46 <@carlwgeorge:matrix.org> related pr i did recently https://pagure.io/fesco/fesco-docs/pull-request/91
2024-07-10 18:29:00 <@tdawson:fedora.im> So, it sounds like the answer to my question is No.  They have not met the criteria.
2024-07-10 18:29:23 <@nirik:matrix.scrye.com> yeah, someone should remind of next steps on the list.
2024-07-10 18:30:03 <@tdawson:fedora.im> Anyone want to volunteer?  Or should I do it?
2024-07-10 18:34:23 <@salimma:fedora.im> for clarity, what Neal and I are talking about is that the EPEL 7 version is still listed on the summary page
2024-07-10 18:35:13 <@nirik:matrix.scrye.com> I do not think that is it.
2024-07-10 18:35:40 <@nirik:matrix.scrye.com> all epel7 packages are eol in pdc.
2024-07-10 18:36:10 <@nhanlon:beeper.com> `https://src.fedoraproject.org/_dg/bodhi_updates/rpms/python-django?html=1` is the query url
2024-07-10 18:36:38 <@tdawson:fedora.im> That's why they all got untagged isn't it?  Because the pdc said they were EOL
2024-07-10 18:36:48 <@nirik:matrix.scrye.com> yep.
2024-07-10 18:36:58 <@nirik:matrix.scrye.com> so, this may be in pagure-dist-git or something. Not sure
2024-07-10 18:38:00 <@tdawson:fedora.im> Is there any other Old Business?
2024-07-10 18:38:48 <@carlwgeorge:matrix.org> is epel10 progress old biz or does it have its own section now?
2024-07-10 18:38:59 <@nirik:matrix.scrye.com> ha ha ha. it's even silliler than that.
2024-07-10 18:39:14 <@nirik:matrix.scrye.com> it's querying packager-dashboard.
2024-07-10 18:39:24 <@nhanlon:beeper.com> lol
2024-07-10 18:39:28 <@tdawson:fedora.im> Carl George: We can give it it's own section.  Do you want it before or after Old Business?
2024-07-10 18:39:43 <@carlwgeorge:matrix.org> whatever is easiest
2024-07-10 18:40:28 <@salimma:fedora.im> well epel 10 is going to be new
2024-07-10 18:40:34 <@salimma:fedora.im> so before old business? :P
2024-07-10 18:40:48 <@carlwgeorge:matrix.org> it's old in that we've talked about it previously
2024-07-10 18:41:22 <@tdawson:fedora.im> Both are correct .... I've put it before Old Business ... mainly because it's something we're going to need to bring up each week.
2024-07-10 18:41:59 <@tdawson:fedora.im> !topic EPEL 10
2024-07-10 18:43:03 <@jrichardson:matrix.org> Should we link the hack.md doc?
2024-07-10 18:44:18 <@tdawson:fedora.im> Quick update on status of CentOS Stream 10.  It's looking better, and finally has an updated kernel.  But we just noticed (thanks to Miro) that none of the remove packages from the composes, were removed from the mirrors.
2024-07-10 18:44:47 <@tdawson:fedora.im> James Richardson: We could.  Can you give the link.
2024-07-10 18:45:03 <@jrichardson:matrix.org> https://hackmd.io/q6TNkYjJT82EtzhlyPGpog
2024-07-10 18:45:03 <@jrichardson:matrix.org> Yes sir
2024-07-10 18:45:55 <@tdawson:fedora.im> So, give us a few days/ a week, so we can clean out the packages that need to be cleaned out.
2024-07-10 18:46:32 <@carlwgeorge:matrix.org> i posted an status update and timeline to discourse and email
2024-07-10 18:46:34 <@carlwgeorge:matrix.org> !link https://discussion.fedoraproject.org/t/epel-10-status-update/124549
2024-07-10 18:47:12 <@nirik:matrix.scrye.com> cool!
2024-07-10 18:47:19 <@nirik:matrix.scrye.com> very detailed... kudos!
2024-07-10 18:47:40 <@tdawson:fedora.im> Thank you very much.
2024-07-10 18:47:59 <@carlwgeorge:matrix.org> diego's fedpkg changes got merged, and also backported to the fedpkg package, and are available as fedpkg-1.45-2
2024-07-10 18:48:02 <@carlwgeorge:matrix.org> !link https://bodhi.fedoraproject.org/updates/?search=fedpkg-1.45-2
2024-07-10 18:49:11 <@carlwgeorge:matrix.org> the key there is allowing requests of epel10 and epel10.x branches (which won't work yet, but this is one side of it)
2024-07-10 18:50:53 <@tdawson:fedora.im> Is there any other EPEL 10 stuff?
2024-07-10 18:51:13 <@tdawson:fedora.im> We're getting a little low on time and I want to make sure we have enough for Open Floor.
2024-07-10 18:51:42 <@carlwgeorge:matrix.org> i think that's it for now.  next up is doing similar branch request work in the scm toddler.
2024-07-10 18:51:59 <@conan_kudo:matrix.org> I don't have anything either :)
2024-07-10 18:52:04 <@tdawson:fedora.im> Thank you Carl, James and DIege.
2024-07-10 18:52:20 <@tdawson:fedora.im> And everyone else working on the epel10 effort.
2024-07-10 18:52:29 <@tdawson:fedora.im> !topic General Issues / Open Floor
2024-07-10 18:52:42 <@tdawson:fedora.im> Does anyone have anything for Open Floor?
2024-07-10 18:53:07 <@smooge:fedora.im> it needs to be rewaxed soon
2024-07-10 18:53:27 <@tdawson:fedora.im> Ya ... it's been scuffed up quite a bit. ;)
2024-07-10 18:53:54 <@nhanlon:beeper.com> one thing from me: finally got a package someone in #epel on irc requested like... three months ago, into EPEL. mod_mapcache is now in Fedora and EPEL for all your maptile caching needs
2024-07-10 18:54:35 <@nhanlon:beeper.com> worked w/ them on the spec but they didn't want to do the whole 'become a packager' thing :P 
2024-07-10 18:55:10 <@tdawson:fedora.im> I remember seeing that.  Thank you for taking that on.
2024-07-10 18:56:10 <@tdawson:fedora.im> Anything else before we close the meeting?
2024-07-10 18:56:51 <@tdawson:fedora.im> Sounds like it's time to close.
2024-07-10 18:57:08 <@nhanlon:beeper.com> 🎵 closing time...
2024-07-10 18:57:19 <@tdawson:fedora.im> Thank you all for coming and for the good discussions.  And thank you all for your work on EPEL and it's community.
2024-07-10 18:57:29 <@nhanlon:beeper.com> Thank you, Troy Dawson !
2024-07-10 18:57:38 <@tdawson:fedora.im> I'll talk to you all next week, if not sooner.
2024-07-10 18:57:40 <@rcallicotte:fedora.im> thanks Troy
2024-07-10 18:57:46 <@jrichardson:matrix.org> thanks Troy
2024-07-10 18:57:49 <@tdawson:fedora.im> !endmeeting