#meeting-1:fedoraproject.org log

<@nhanlon:beeper.com>

18:05:50

!startmeeting EPEL (2025-01-15)

<@meetbot:fedora.im>

18:05:51

Meeting started at 2025-01-15 18:05:50 UTC

<@meetbot:fedora.im>

18:05:51

The Meeting name is 'EPEL (2025-01-15)'

<@nhanlon:beeper.com>

18:05:59

!meetingname epel

<@jonathanspw:fedora.im>

18:05:59

!hi

<@zodbot:fedora.im>

18:06:00

Jonathan Wright (jonathanspw)

<@meetbot:fedora.im>

18:06:00

The Meeting Name is now epel

<@nhanlon:beeper.com>

18:06:02

!topic aloha

<@dherrera:fedora.im>

18:06:09

!hi

<@zodbot:fedora.im>

18:06:10

Diego Herrera (dherrera) - he / him / his

<@carlwgeorge:matrix.org>

18:06:18

!hi

<@zodbot:fedora.im>

18:06:24

Carl George (carlwgeorge) - he / him / his

<@nhanlon:beeper.com>

18:06:40

Morning/afternoon/etc, folks. sorry again for the delay. I was in the zone

<@nirik:matrix.scrye.com>

18:06:46

morning

<@nirik:matrix.scrye.com>

18:06:53

yeah, no worries... happens to us all.

<@nhanlon:beeper.com>

18:07:27

!topic EPEL 10

<@nhanlon:beeper.com>

18:07:37

Anyone have anything for EPEL 10 this week?

<@carlwgeorge:matrix.org>

18:08:27

It's up over 11k binary packages

<@nhanlon:beeper.com>

18:09:01

Awesome!

<@carlwgeorge:matrix.org>

18:10:09

[@dherrera:fedora.im](https://matrix.to/#/@dherrera:fedora.im) may or may not have an update for us about the branching plans he was investigating

<@dherrera:fedora.im>

18:10:31

nah, not much on those waters yet :)

<@jonathanspw:fedora.im>

18:10:38

nirik: depends on if you count "please branch and build" bugs :p

<@conan_kudo:matrix.org>

18:10:47

!hi

<@zodbot:fedora.im>

18:10:49

Neal Gompa (ngompa) - he / him / his

<@nhanlon:beeper.com>

18:11:25

Good afternoon Conan Kudo

<@nirik:matrix.scrye.com>

18:11:42

naw, just was wondering if users were reporting many bugs yet... and how maintainers are handling the flow

<@nhanlon:beeper.com>

18:12:20

I think I saw some discussion about 10 vs 10.0 in the mirror path, which Carl George answered on discussion.fp.o

<@nhanlon:beeper.com>

18:12:36

but haven't heard any major complaints, myself

<@nhanlon:beeper.com>

18:12:47

do we have any countme stats for it yet?

<@carlwgeorge:matrix.org>

18:12:55

https://discussion.fedoraproject.org/t/epel-10-status-update/124549/17

<@carlwgeorge:matrix.org>

18:13:25

the raw data exists, but i don't know if anything has done anything with it yet

<@nhanlon:beeper.com>

18:14:08

roger

<@nhanlon:beeper.com>

18:15:05

moving along, then

<@nhanlon:beeper.com>

18:15:14

oop, i see kevin tying

<@nhanlon:beeper.com>

18:15:17

oop, i see kevin typing

<@nirik:matrix.scrye.com>

18:15:19

could be added to roles/web-data-analysis/files/mirrorlist.py by interested parties.

<@nhanlon:beeper.com>

18:15:45

thank you for that :)

<@nhanlon:beeper.com>

18:16:05

!info epel 10 has over 11k binary packages now. maintainers seem to be adjusting well, from what we can tell

<@nhanlon:beeper.com>

18:16:54

!info countme data for el10 is not yet being processed, interested parties can make PRs to `roles/web-data-analysis/files/mirrorlist.py` to include it

<@nhanlon:beeper.com>

18:17:00

!topic Old Business

<@nhanlon:beeper.com>

18:18:24

Anyone have old business this week that isn't part of EPEL 10?

<@nhanlon:beeper.com>

18:18:29

or is, I guess

<@carlwgeorge:matrix.org>

18:19:29

my first priority now that i'm back from the holidays is sending a pr to dnf to get releasever_minor working, but i haven't done it yet

<@davide:cavalca.name>

18:20:19

!hi

<@zodbot:fedora.im>

18:20:21

Davide Cavalca (dcavalca) - he / him / his

<@nirik:matrix.scrye.com>

18:20:26

oh right, reminds me... something to mention:

<@nirik:matrix.scrye.com>

18:20:51

https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2338267

<@nirik:matrix.scrye.com>

18:21:03

(related to releasever vars)

<@conan_kudo:matrix.org>

18:21:51

that sounds like a dnf bug

<@conan_kudo:matrix.org>

18:22:02

it should be doing the correct variable expansion

<@nirik:matrix.scrye.com>

18:22:51

yeah, not sure, just saw it this morning in the email flood...

<@carlwgeorge:matrix.org>

18:23:34

it expands with dnf, that bug says it didn't expand with pkgkit

<@conan_kudo:matrix.org>

18:23:41

is there's a missing function call in https://github.com/PackageKit/PackageKit/blob/main/backends/dnf/pk-backend-dnf-common.c, I'd like to know

<@carlwgeorge:matrix.org>

18:23:48

specifically pkcon

<@conan_kudo:matrix.org>

18:24:01

but we expect all variables to be expanded by libdnf before handing the data back to PackageKit

<@nhanlon:beeper.com>

18:24:07

Hi Davide Cavalca

<@conan_kudo:matrix.org>

18:24:10

if there's a missing function call in https://github.com/PackageKit/PackageKit/blob/main/backends/dnf/pk-backend-dnf-common.c, I'd like to know

<@conan_kudo:matrix.org>

18:24:43

the `dnf_context_setup()` function is supposed to handle all this

<@nhanlon:beeper.com>

18:24:45

!link https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2338267

<@carlwgeorge:matrix.org>

18:26:28

i've got my hands full with getting dnf working in time for rhel10, so if someone else can deal with this pkgkit stuff that would be super

<@conan_kudo:matrix.org>

18:26:47

it's a libdnf bug not a pk one

<@conan_kudo:matrix.org>

18:27:03

so you're going to be touching the same codebase for your dnf thing too

<@dherrera:fedora.im>

18:27:06

I'll give it a shot

<@carlwgeorge:matrix.org>

18:27:18

a libdnf bug that doesn't affect dnf but does affect pkgcon, got it

<@conan_kudo:matrix.org>

18:27:32

libdnf is a schizoid library

<@conan_kudo:matrix.org>

18:27:40

it has two separate entry points that are used by two different frontends

<@carlwgeorge:matrix.org>

18:27:41

sorry for not being specific enough

<@nirik:matrix.scrye.com>

18:27:43

well, I am not sure where the bug is... but it's not in epel-release. ;)

<@conan_kudo:matrix.org>

18:28:18

almost certainly the entry point that was historically libhif was not updated at the same time as the entry point that was historically libhawkey

<@conan_kudo:matrix.org>

18:28:39

this was the big reason for the dnf5 rewrite

<@conan_kudo:matrix.org>

18:28:48

things kept getting out of sync

<@nhanlon:beeper.com>

18:28:50

what a tangled web we weaved

<@nhanlon:beeper.com>

18:29:10

glad it's been/being sorted, that's for sure! more brainpower to other problems

<@nhanlon:beeper.com>

18:29:52

Thanks for joining nirik

<@nhanlon:beeper.com>

18:30:46

!info Carl working on `releasever_minor` in dnf/libdnf

<@nhanlon:beeper.com>

18:31:53

!info Diego Herrera offered to look at the `releasever_major` bug w.r.t. dnf and/or packgekit

<@nhanlon:beeper.com>

18:32:09

Any other old business?

<@nhanlon:beeper.com>

18:32:49

!topic New Business

<@nhanlon:beeper.com>

18:33:08

Anyone have new business?

<@davide:cavalca.name>

18:33:57

just a heads up that I've been slowly working through getting mkdocs and mkdocs-material in epel10 to support centos docs

<@nhanlon:beeper.com>

18:34:59

!info Davide created a "lightweight" mkdocs SIG and is working on getting mkdocs/mkdocs-material and dependencies into EPEL 10. Help is welcome!

<@nhanlon:beeper.com>

18:36:58

Any other new business?

<@nhanlon:beeper.com>

18:38:10

!topic Open Floor

<@nhanlon:beeper.com>

18:40:05

Everyone wants 20 minutes back, I see :)

<@nhanlon:beeper.com>

18:41:15

Thanks very much to everyone for coming, for the discussions, and for the work you do for EPEL! Enjoy the rest of your day and see you around.

<@nhanlon:beeper.com>

18:41:15

<@nhanlon:beeper.com>

18:41:15

Troy's back next week, so... We can adjourn til then!

<@nhanlon:beeper.com>

18:41:16

!endmeeting