#fedora-blocker-review: F24-blocker-review

Meeting started by adamw at 16:03:55 UTC (full logs).

Meeting summary

  1. Roll Call (adamw, 16:03:55)
  2. Introduction (adamw, 16:12:07)
    1. Our purpose in this meeting is to review proposed blocker and nice-to-have bugs and decide whether to accept them, and to monitor the progress of fixing existing accepted blocker and nice-to-have bugs. (adamw, 16:12:07)
    2. We'll be following the process outlined at: (adamw, 16:12:07)
    3. https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA:SOP_Blocker_Bug_Meeting (adamw, 16:12:07)
    4. The bugs up for review today are available at: (adamw, 16:12:08)
    5. http://qa.fedoraproject.org/blockerbugs/current (adamw, 16:12:10)
    6. The criteria for release blocking bugs can be found at: (adamw, 16:12:12)
    7. https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_24_Alpha_Release_Criteria (adamw, 16:12:14)
    8. https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_24_Beta_Release_Criteria (adamw, 16:12:16)
    9. https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_24_Final_Release_Criteria (adamw, 16:12:20)
    10. 5 Proposed Blockers (Alpha), 3 Proposed Blockers (Beta), 6 Proposed Blockers (Final) (adamw, 16:13:28)
    11. 1 Accepted Blockers (Alpha) (adamw, 16:13:45)
    12. 7 Proposed Freeze Exceptions (Alpha) (adamw, 16:13:54)
    13. kparal will secretarialize when he appears (adamw, 16:18:28)
    14. (1315494) C.UTF-8 doesn't actually work as a default locale - the story here is the same as always, this isn't a blocker unless we need a new anaconda build for something else, we are keeping it on the list for tracking that (adamw, 16:19:38)

  3. (1319590) Fedora 24 Alpha 1.6 (Server - DVD): Can't close help window, once opened (adamw, 16:19:44)
    1. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1319590 (adamw, 16:19:44)
    2. Proposed Blocker, anaconda, POST (adamw, 16:19:44)
    3. AGREED: 1319590 - RejectedBlocker (Alpha), RejectedFreezeException (Alpha) - this is not severe enough to constitute the installer failing to complete, for Alpha (it's a conditional violation only in the case of opening Help, and it's workaroundable). we might usually accept it as FE, but as it's late in the cycle and there is known risk of breakage elsewhere in anaconda with new builds, we are rejecting it as FE as well (adamw, 16:23:30)

  4. (1319770) New backgrounds require desktop-backgrounds change (adamw, 16:23:37)
    1. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1319770 (adamw, 16:23:37)
    2. Proposed Blocker, desktop-backgrounds, NEW (adamw, 16:23:37)
    3. AGREED: 1319770 - AcceptedBlocker (Alpha) - clear violation of "The default desktop background must be different from that of the last two stable releases." (adamw, 16:27:32)

  5. (1319043) Include F24 Alpha backgrounds in next RC (adamw, 16:27:49)
    1. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1319043 (adamw, 16:27:49)
    2. Proposed Blocker, f24-backgrounds, MODIFIED (adamw, 16:27:49)
    3. AGREED: 1319043 - AcceptedBlocker (Alpha) - clear violation of "The default desktop background must be different from that of the last two stable releases." (adamw, 16:34:19)

  6. (1318541) kde (e.g kscreenlocker) crashes in driDestroyScreen/llvmpipe_destroy_screen/pthread_barrier_destroy (adamw, 16:34:28)
    1. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1318541 (adamw, 16:34:29)
    2. Proposed Blocker, mesa, NEW (adamw, 16:34:29)
    3. AGREED: 1318541 - RejectedBlocker AcceptedFreezeException (Alpha) - it's a close call, but we feel the overall impact of this conditional violation is not quite sufficient enough to constitute an Alpha blocker. It's clearly worth a freeze exception, however (adamw, 16:46:44)
    4. moving onto Alpha proposed Freeze Exceptions (adamw, 16:48:24)

  7. (1318615) gnome-initial-setup crashes after choosing a language (adamw, 16:48:42)
    1. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1318615 (adamw, 16:48:42)
    2. Proposed Freeze Exceptions, gnome-initial-setup, NEW (adamw, 16:48:42)
    3. AGREED: 1318615 - AcceptedFreezeException (Alpha) - though this one seems a bit vague at present, there's certainly a potential serious issue here, so we accept it as FE and if a clearly reproducible case is found and fixed, we will look at taking the fix (adamw, 16:52:38)

  8. (1319506) Can't close initial-setup's help window (adamw, 16:52:52)
    1. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1319506 (adamw, 16:52:52)
    2. Proposed Freeze Exceptions, initial-setup, NEW (adamw, 16:52:52)
    3. AGREED: 1319506 - AcceptedFreezeException (Alpha) - this is obviously a serious issue that can't be fixed with an update. If it can be fixed without touching anaconda, we will likely take the fix. However, if the fix requires change to anaconda (the bug is the same as #1319590) we won't (adamw, 17:01:58)

  9. (1319516) The default browser on LXDE is broken (adamw, 17:03:21)
    1. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1319516 (adamw, 17:03:21)
    2. Proposed Freeze Exceptions, LiveCD - LXDE, NEW (adamw, 17:03:21)
    3. AGREED: 1319516 - AcceptedFreezeException - this is a major issue which cannot be fixed with an update for LXDE lives, so it's accepted as a freeze exception issue, so long as any changes needed to address it are limited in scope to the LXDE packages (adamw, 17:09:13)

  10. (1318303) rolekit cannot deploy domain controller due to missing nss_myhostname (adamw, 17:09:56)
    1. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1318303 (adamw, 17:09:56)
    2. Proposed Freeze Exceptions, rolekit, NEW (adamw, 17:09:56)
    3. AGREED: 1318303 - AcceptedFreezeException (Alpha) - this is clearly a significant issue for Server that cannot be fully fixed with an update. It's accepted as a freeze exception, if a sufficiently targeted fix is found it will be accepted (adamw, 17:16:55)

  11. (1317709) live Workstation install doesn't have a rescue mode entry in the grub menu (adamw, 17:17:01)
    1. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1317709 (adamw, 17:17:01)
    2. Proposed Freeze Exceptions, spin-kickstarts, NEW (adamw, 17:17:01)
    3. AGREED: 1317709 - AcceptedFreezeException - if we decide the rescue kernel is desired and important to live images, it's reasonable to allow a fix as a freeze exception so long as it's simple, targeted and testable (if it requires package changes to anything boot-related we likely won't take it) (adamw, 17:29:10)

  12. (1299088) XPad starts automatically at login (because it provides /etc/xdg/autostart/xpad.desktop file) (adamw, 17:29:27)
    1. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1299088 (adamw, 17:29:27)
    2. Proposed Freeze Exceptions, xpad, ON_QA (adamw, 17:29:27)
    3. AGREED: 1299088 - AcceptedFreezeException - this is a visible issue on LXDE lives and cannot be fixed with an update, the fix is pretty simple and isolated, thus its accepted as a freeze exception issue (adamw, 17:35:37)
    4. going on to Beta blockers (adamw, 17:36:02)

  13. (1288850) [abrt] gnome-settings-daemon: CD_IS_DEVICE(): gnome-settings-daemon killed by SIGSEGV (adamw, 17:36:11)
    1. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1288850 (adamw, 17:36:12)
    2. Proposed Blocker, gnome-settings-daemon, ASSIGNED (adamw, 17:36:12)
    3. https://git.gnome.org/browse/gnome-settings-daemon/log/ (adamw, 17:40:16)
    4. AGREED: 1288850 - AcceptedBlocker (Beta) - this is clearly a serious issue (g-s-d crashing has all sorts of consequences). It's not entirely clear exactly what triggers it, but certainly multiple people have run into it, so the impact seems severe enough to accept as a blocker (adamw, 17:51:17)

  14. (1318067) [anaconda] non-bootable system after fresh install of current F24 on bare metal (adamw, 17:51:26)
    1. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1318067 (adamw, 17:51:26)
    2. Proposed Blocker, grub2, NEW (adamw, 17:51:26)
    3. AGREED: 1318067 - punt (delay decision) - this is certainly potentially a blocker bug, but currently single-sourced and slightly vague, we can make a decision only with more information and tests (adamw, 17:57:00)

  15. (1318303) rolekit cannot deploy domain controller due to missing nss_myhostname (adamw, 17:57:06)
    1. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1318303 (adamw, 17:57:07)
    2. Proposed Blocker, rolekit, NEW (adamw, 17:57:07)
    3. AGREED: 1318303 - AcceptedBlocker (Beta) - clear violation of "The core functional requirements for all Featured Server Roles must be met, without any workarounds being necessary." (adamw, 18:00:28)
    4. we're stopping there due to everyone being a bunch of lightweights who don't like three hour meetings or something (adamw, 18:03:58)

  16. Open floor (adamw, 18:04:19)


Meeting ended at 18:10:58 UTC (full logs).

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