14:02:25 <randomuser`> #startmeeting Docs Project Meeting - Agenda: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Docs_Project_meetings 14:02:25 <zodbot> Meeting started Mon Aug 17 14:02:25 2015 UTC. The chair is randomuser`. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. 14:02:25 <zodbot> Useful Commands: #action #agreed #halp #info #idea #link #topic. 14:02:26 <randomuser`> #meetingname Fedora Docs 14:02:26 <zodbot> The meeting name has been set to 'fedora_docs' 14:02:26 <randomuser`> #topic Roll Call 14:03:17 <bexelbie_> .hello bex 14:03:28 <zodbot> bexelbie_: bex 'Brian (bex) Exelbierd' <bex@pobox.com> 14:03:43 * rkratky here 14:03:43 * zoglesby is here 14:03:51 <bexelbie> .hello bex 14:03:52 <zodbot> bexelbie: bex 'Brian (bex) Exelbierd' <bex@pobox.com> 14:04:28 * Capesteve waves 14:05:12 <jsmith> .hellomynameis jsmith 14:05:13 <zodbot> jsmith: jsmith 'Jared Smith' <jsmith.fedora@gmail.com> 14:05:40 <pkovar> /me is here 14:08:00 <randomuser`> #topic New Writers 14:10:29 <wdashley> sorry I am late 14:11:47 * Corey84 in late 14:11:53 <randomuser`> hey wdashley 14:12:04 <wdashley> The first draft of my doc is ready. David Michael has volunteered to prrof read it 14:12:34 <randomuser`> I plan on reading it as well 14:12:49 <wdashley> great, the more the merrier 14:13:11 * randomuser` is excited about it too 14:13:24 <Corey84> I have some stuff for late in networking guide 14:13:49 <randomuser`> Corey84, cool, you probably want to sync up with Capesteve about it 14:13:55 <Corey84> kk 14:14:20 <Capesteve> .. 14:14:32 <randomuser`> Okay, let's talk release schedules 14:14:47 <randomuser`> #Topic Release Prep 14:14:55 <randomuser`> #link https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Releases/23/Schedule 14:15:08 <randomuser`> #link https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Category:Documentation_beats?rd=Documentation_Beats 14:15:19 <wdashley> I have to leave, another meeting 14:15:24 <randomuser`> We're past alpha release! 14:15:29 <randomuser`> wdashley, see you around 14:16:03 <randomuser`> this part of the official schedule for docs is "scramble to write all the things" 14:16:14 * jsmith is stuck in a $DAYJOB meeting as well, but will try to multi-task 14:16:24 <randomuser`> #info spare cycles at this stage should go into release notes 14:17:13 <zoglesby> randomuser`: when is the scheduled freeze? 14:17:16 <randomuser`> #info If you have time to help with release notes but don't know how, please reach out 14:17:50 <randomuser`> #info Wiki freeze is 31 August 14:17:53 <Corey84> waht all still needs work on the h/w doc 14:18:11 <randomuser`> Corey84, making a list of things that need to be covered for h/w docs 14:18:19 * randomuser` shrugs 14:18:40 <zoglesby> randomuser`: Let set office hours for the 27th for last push? 14:18:41 <Corey84> roger I'll have time late this week and next to work on if you like 14:19:29 <randomuser`> zoglesby, sure, that works nicely 14:19:56 <randomuser`> #action randomuser` to announce release notes sprint day for August 27th 14:20:39 <randomuser`> Anything specific on this we should discuss? 14:21:14 <Corey84> I'm still a bi new to the docs stuff but will reach out if needed 14:21:15 <zoglesby> other than the fact that this topic is not on the adgenda? 14:21:30 <zoglesby> s/adgenda/agenda 14:21:32 <randomuser`> hey! I was just paraphrasing 14:21:55 <zoglesby> okay, allowed 14:22:03 <randomuser`> thank you 14:22:09 <zoglesby> :) 14:22:32 <randomuser`> #topic Publican/Publishing 14:22:58 <randomuser`> We were able to bring a lot of visibility to our publishing situation at flock, and also make some progress on implementation 14:23:06 <zoglesby> bexelbie: do you have the notes from flock to send to the list? 14:23:25 <randomuser`> #action randomuser` to write summary of flock experience and send to list, planet 14:24:09 <bexelbie> zoglesby, yes 14:24:58 <randomuser`> #ACTION bexelbie to send flock notes to list 14:25:30 <Corey84> when is next office hours and is it possible someone could spin me up on publican then? 14:25:41 <randomuser`> Every thursday, Corey84 14:26:00 <Corey84> noon UTC right? 14:26:27 <randomuser`> oh, in the evenings (Americas time) zoglesby and I will be going over how to set up a buildbot deployment for tooling development, speak up if you want one in your house too 14:26:55 <Corey84> noted 14:26:58 <zoglesby> randomuser`: how is thursday? 14:27:16 <zoglesby> Corey84: thursday office hours are 1PM EST 14:27:28 <zoglesby> er, no 2PM EST 14:27:34 <zoglesby> clocks are hard 14:27:48 * Corey84 prefers UTC if its easier 14:27:55 <randomuser`> zoglesby, evenings are pretty open for me, feel free to ping at will to give a little notice of "I'm free right now" 14:28:08 <Corey84> same ^ 14:28:11 <zoglesby> okay 14:28:31 <Corey84> after around 6p EST / 2100 UTC 14:28:36 <zoglesby> I am busy tue, but the rest of the week is open 14:28:52 <randomuser`> cool 14:28:54 <zoglesby> but this is not meeting worthy, so I will stop 14:28:59 <Corey84> only day this week i'll be hard to get is sat (fosscon) 14:29:10 <randomuser`> so, publishing things are happening. 14:29:15 <randomuser`> #topic Guide Status 14:29:28 <randomuser`> how are we doing on Guides? pbokoc, need any help? 14:29:49 <randomuser`> ...or anyone :) 14:30:00 <pbokoc> nah, I'm good I think 14:30:10 * jsmith will try to add to the Documentation Guide 14:30:20 <pbokoc> not that I have been paying much attention, but I don't expect any big changes 14:30:31 <randomuser`> pbokoc, but passwords! 14:31:04 <randomuser`> ...yeah, probably nothing big there 14:31:42 * satellit it would be nice to detail use of kickstarts in f23 livecd-tools live 14:31:47 <Corey84> pwquality.conf changes if anything 14:31:55 <pbokoc> oh right, I forgot about that 14:32:16 <Corey84> satellit, noted I will work with Southern and Striker on a easy to read way for that 14:32:17 <pbokoc> but that's gonna be easy enough 14:32:20 <randomuser`> satellit, building custom images is fun but maybe not in scope for the IG - we'll put it in the pipe 14:32:33 <satellit> k 14:32:47 <Corey84> randomuser`, there has been an increase in interest actually 14:32:49 * smccann runs in v. late 14:32:51 <randomuser`> oh, is everyone familiar with the branch model we're going for? 14:33:06 * Corey84 nope 14:33:21 <Corey84> at least not aware i am if i am 14:33:24 * satellit pwquality can be altered in kickstarts... 14:33:27 <randomuser`> #info f{21,22,23} and so on are *gold* for that release. Play in a different branch. 14:34:16 <Corey84> so the usual github model fork it and merge? 14:34:28 <randomuser`> yup 14:34:42 <Corey84> satellit, BUT most non sysadmins will via the ks tho 14:34:58 <Corey84> s/will/ will not 14:35:05 <randomuser`> #info If you are maintaining a guide, people will probably help if you define the tasks 14:35:19 <randomuser`> Any other guide topics we should cover 14:35:21 <randomuser`> ? 14:35:26 <Corey84> ^ I am more than willing to proofread 14:37:09 <randomuser`> great! 14:37:20 <randomuser`> file bugs, get fixes :) 14:37:37 <randomuser`> #topic Outstanding BZ Tickets 14:37:46 <randomuser`> #link http://tinyurl.com/lbrq84 14:39:04 <Corey84> i can take a stab at 1180142 14:39:16 <randomuser`> Corey84++ 14:39:26 <randomuser`> #info there are bugs 14:40:39 <randomuser`> #topic Open Floor 14:40:46 <randomuser`> Okay, time for all the questions you' 14:40:51 <randomuser`> ..you've been holding back 14:41:04 <Corey84> randomuser`, would it be possible to possibly make an advanced selinux doc ( per 1180142 seems it jumped in the deep end for that user and with selinux that is not a shallow pool 14:42:27 <randomuser`> Corey84, I'm reading that as "please explain the basic theory before you tell me how to use it" 14:43:14 <randomuser`> there's a great strip out there, maybe on dan walsh's livejournal?, about how cats shouldn't eat dog food, etc 14:43:25 <randomuser`> maybe we should see how it's licensed 14:43:47 <bexelbie> randomuser`, the coloring book should be able to be republished, I think 14:43:53 * randomuser` nods 14:44:07 <Corey84> lool 14:44:10 <Corey84> seen that 14:44:25 <Corey84> think i have it bookmarked even 14:44:36 <randomuser`> one could throw that in the intro, then spend a few paragraphs correlating that to real features 14:45:54 <Corey84> like chcon and such? 14:47:00 <bexelbie> #link https://github.com/fedoradesign/coloringbook-containers 14:47:56 <randomuser`> OK, this is dying down 14:48:03 <randomuser`> let's move on with the day 14:48:41 <jsmith> +1 14:48:46 <randomuser`> #endmeeting